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Stencil Fonts
Posted: 20:18 Mon 28 Jun 2010
by jdaw1
Split from Summer offline in The Netherlands - 9 July 2010 by DRT.
A number of posts by jdaw1 and DRT did not survive the incompetent Administration of this topic. Oops.
What I really want is that which should be called VintagePortStencil. We see it sometimes on bottles: please send me examples. Or maybe DRT should separate the Stencil font ranting into a separate thread, to which pictures could be posted.
Meanwhile, the nicely-named
TPF U13 is just too modern, though the same can be said of
CargoCrate. Both Stencil and
Army have too much ornament: top of the ‘7’ in particular really doesn’t work.
Re: Summer offline in The Netherlands - 9 July 2010
Posted: 20:20 Mon 28 Jun 2010
by DRT
jdaw1 wrote:What I really want is that which should be called VintagePortStencil. We see it sometimes on bottles: please send me examples. Or maybe DRT should separate the Stencil font ranting into a separate thread, to which pictures could be posted.
Meanwhile, the nicely-named
TPF U13 is just too modern.
It could be our modern twist on a traditional theme?
Worth noting that the page linked to in my previous post is also appropriately coloured.
Re: Stencil Fonts
Posted: 12:56 Tue 29 Jun 2010
by Chris Doty
FWIW, I don't care for #13. Looks like signs you'd see at a disued Italian army base (::someone says 'Italian army?' and everyone laughs heartily::)
Re: Stencil Fonts
Posted: 13:21 Tue 29 Jun 2010
by jdaw1
Disagree. The logo of the Italian Army is indeed modern, but very oblique:
And signs seem to use type that is much more classical:
Re: Stencil Fonts
Posted: 14:58 Tue 29 Jun 2010
by jdaw1
VintagePortStencil should perhaps resemble
or either of
which, alas, are slightly out of focus.
Other examples please.
Re: Stencil Fonts
Posted: 15:05 Tue 29 Jun 2010
by jdaw1
Note for type designers the characters needed are:
- ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ;
- abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz;
- 0123456789;
- áñçé (as in Cá (Cálem), Mñ (Quinta do Mañuela), Pç (Poças), Cç (Morgadio da Calçada), Ré (Réccua));
- + (as in Pt+);
- & (as in Silva & Cosens, Marks & Spencer);
- ? (as in unknown).
(List subject to modification, depending on comments below.)
Re: Stencil Fonts
Posted: 16:54 Tue 29 Jun 2010
by jdaw1
Re: Stencil Fonts
Posted: 21:32 Tue 29 Jun 2010
by JacobH
If we can get some better pictures, I’m sure I could knock something together, especially the very limited character set for the Fonseca tasting. For the purposes of placemats, do we really need minuscules; I’ve never seen those on a stencilled bottle?
Re: Stencil Fonts
Posted: 21:58 Tue 29 Jun 2010
by jdaw1
JacobH wrote:do we really need minuscules; I’ve never seen those on a stencilled bottle?
- MG = M. Gonzalez
Mg = Morgan
- CC = Cockburn Quinta dos Canais
Cç = Morgadio da Calçada
- Gb = Gilbert
GB = González Byass
- Mn = Quinta Vale da Mina
Mñ = Quinta do Mañuela
- Pc = Quinta da Peca
Pç = Poças
- Ro = Rocha
RO = Royal Oporto
- RR = Robertson Quinta do Roncão
Rr = Quinta de Roriz
- Rv = Quinta da Revolta
RV = Robertson Rebello Valente
- Vl = Quinta do Vallado
VL = Quinta de Valle Longo
Yes, for the likes of ‟Pç77”.
Re: Stencil Fonts
Posted: 01:40 Wed 30 Jun 2010
by uncle tom
Have a look at the back of the current Bonhams catalogue, with its stencil of 'SOLERA 1842'
I'm afraid i've never climbed the learning curve to put photos on here, but this is a classic gentle stencil that is rather appealing..
Tom
Re: Stencil Fonts
Posted: 08:22 Wed 30 Jun 2010
by jdaw1
The cuts in the ‘A’ (meaning the non-cuts in the metal) are good and thick. Not sure the ‘L’ needed to be cut so thick, but there it is. Solid imposing paint-can-get-through-this throughout.
Re: Stencil Fonts
Posted: 23:09 Wed 30 Jun 2010
by JacobH
jdaw1 wrote:The cuts in the ‘A’ (meaning the non-cuts in the metal) are good and thick. Not sure the ‘L’ needed to be cut so thick, but there it is. Solid imposing paint-can-get-through-this throughout.
I’ve just wasted a
couple of hours, though I fear much more (in addition to much more talent) is required. (Yes, most of the non-traced characters are completely rubbish and it all needs smoothing but I thought it might be fun to put it up now)...
Re: Stencil Fonts
Posted: 23:24 Wed 30 Jun 2010
by jdaw1
- The ‘0’ is insufficiently symmetrical;
- I don’t like the ‘1’;
- ‘2’ OK;
- the ‘3’ is a mess, as you say;
- ‘4’ OK, except for the top of the lower piece;
- the curve of the ‘5’ needs to go further round (clockwise);
- the ‘6’ less messier than the ‘3’ but still a mess;
- ‘7’ looks Arabic;
- ‘8’ insufficiently symmetrical;
- ‘9’ not shown.
Re: Stencil Fonts
Posted: 23:40 Wed 30 Jun 2010
by JacobH
jdaw1 wrote:- The ‘0’ is insufficiently symmetrical;
- I don’t like the ‘1’;
- ‘2’ OK;
- the ‘3’ is a mess, as you say;
- ‘4’ OK, except for the top of the lower piece;
- the curve of the ‘5’ needs to go further round (clockwise);
- the ‘6’ less messier than the ‘3’ but still a mess;
- ‘7’ looks Arabic;
- ‘8’ insufficiently symmetrical;
- ‘9’ not shown.
Yes, indeed, and more-so. At some stage I’ll redo the lot. These sorts of exercises always remind me why I much prefer using type than designing it...It’s quite an interesting style though; the letters have obviously been drawn onto the template with a brush and then cut out which gives a combination of fluidity and rigidity.
(Though I would note that the 8 is strikingly asymmetrical; I think a symptom of being drawn with 4 separate brush strokes).
Re: Stencil Fonts
Posted: 15:41 Fri 02 Jul 2010
by JacobH
I think I might be
getting a bit closer to the eventual goal, though there's still much work to do. I haven't looked at spacing yet which is why some letters look too close or far apart.
Re: Stencil Fonts
Posted: 15:57 Fri 02 Jul 2010
by jdaw1
JacobH: you have emails. And need to tackle A→Z and a→z and áñçé+&?.
Re: Stencil Fonts
Posted: 14:58 Tue 13 Jul 2010
by JacobH
I've made some progress on the Solera 1842 typeface. A new sample is now
online and below. Any thoughts would be welcome. I've so far only worked on the characters: ACEHILORST and 0123456789.
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