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The Durand is even more reliable than the butler's thief style because it essentially combines a butler's thief with a traditional corkscrew.

But generally speaking, I just use a waiter's friend. I'm good enough with one that I can extract even notoriously bad corks (read: Porto Souza) reliably.

From the photo, it looks like a typo since I can see both a bottle marked “White” and another marked “Dry White”. Ah, good, I couldn't see sufficient detail in the photo. * I appreciate reserve tawny is supposed to be a special category of Port wine and so my definition parts ways with the IVDP! Th...

Quevedo Ports are excellent, so you'd have nothing to worry about there. I wish there weren't 4 x Dry White Port, though. Perhaps that's a typo in the listing? The last two entries are both 2 x Dry White Port, and there are no other White Ports included. In addition to the dry white, Quevedo makes a...

I've purchased from WineBid many times, and have never had a problem. 17% BP is pretty normal in the US. As with any auction site, you have to be prudent. They're pretty responsive if you ask questions or want pictures. I even went ahead and purchased some "dodgey" bottles from them once after askin...

A decision is needed, and I think it should be the following. As yet, there is no need for a new abbreviation for Quinta do Javali Maria Luísa. It might be that, in time, one becomes appropriate, but with the information we have now, not yet. Any strong objection? None here. FG was mentioned mischi...

jdaw1 wrote: ↑

23:24 Sat 19 Sep 2020

FG was mentioned mischievously, precisely because it’s so awkward.

Based on usual practice and the above picture, we should have a separate abbreviations for Fonseca Guimaraens and the various Guimaraens SQVPs. Potentially also for a straight Guimaraens VP, if such a thing was ever produced.

Ah, I see what you're saying now. Puzzling, as those look like a separate company (though they're obviously not). Winesearcher has this picture of the 1982 Guimaraens Quinta do Cruzeiro bottled and shipped by Guimaraens Vinhos S.A.R.L. Fonseca is currently bottled and shipped by Quinta and Vinyard B...

fact that she was from

Right. But Niepoort Pisca became Bioma in 08. Right. So an abbreviation for Niepoort Pisca would be kind of useless since it was only made once, whether or not it is actually different than Bioma. (Which, according to Niepoort, it isn't. Second paragraph, last sentence. ) And we already have an abb...

Q: is Javali Maria Luísa sufficiently different to Javali to have a different abbreviation? Your answer should compare and contrast with Fonseca and Fonseca Guimaraens. FG is an excellent comparison, albeit in the opposite direction. If JvML is in fact a designation of quality that they're going to...

Reminder: Jv = Quinta do Javali. Is Maria Luísa different juice, or merely more verbose branding? I believe it is the designation for their special vines, which would suggest JvML If so, then I agree with the abbreviation. But I think more research is warranted before adding to the list for somethi...

I should be online at the start, which is 10:00 am here in Seattle.

Each producer will vary a bit from vintage to vintage, but I think that they generally have a style that they try to follow. A notable exception to this is Vesuvio, which simply bottles what nature gives them and can vary significantly from one vintage to the next. Dow tends toward the drier end of ...

jdaw1 wrote: ↑

12:40 Sun 13 Sep 2020

I also have a preference for not changing established things, unless necessary. So ROC remains Carvalhas.

As ‘r’, ‘v’ and ‘l’ are in both, unhelpfully, the best might be ROCo = Royal Oporto Quinta do Corval.

Fierce objection, anybody?

Works for me.

Noval's two LBVs are clearly distinct, though, so easily separated for marketing purposes. IIRC the unfiltered is their "Single Quinta" LBV while the regular Noval is the filtered, but I may have that backwards. That's the right way round but I'm not sure calling one "Quinta do Noval" and the other...

Noval's two LBVs are clearly distinct, though, so easily separated for marketing purposes. IIRC the unfiltered is their "Single Quinta" LBV while the regular Noval is the filtered, but I may have that backwards. That's the right way round but I'm not sure calling one "Quinta do Noval" and the other...

It's also annoying that the two Quintas use essentially the same consonants. Either could be Cr or Cv. Precedent says that Carvalhas should remain C, and that Corval should then be something not easily confused with Carvalhas. Perhaps Cl? But if we're going to change Carvalhas, since I am more famil...

Before reading this thread, I hadn’t realised that Warre’s made both a filtered and unfiltered LBV. I agree with Tom that that is quite confusing since I would always assume the Warre LBV was the premium product from Symington’s LBV range and be quite disappointed if I accidentally got the unfilter...

Andy Velebil wrote: ↑

23:50 Fri 11 Sep 2020

And to explain why it may appear certain family members prefer or favor certain brands. It’s because each member is responsible for overseeing a specific Quinta.

Probably why I get along with Dominic so well!

Given that Graham is now the anointed crown jewel in the Symington stable, I do find it odd that the Graham LBV is still a low end filtered offering. Logic would suggest making Cockburn their supermarket volume brand, and elevate the Graham to a superior age-worthy wine. I thought Dow was regarded ...

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I thought International Port Wine Day was January 27?

Edit: ah, I see, Port Wine Day is a Portuguese thing organized by the IVDP, while International Port Wine Day is a worldwide thing.

next year the 2000 vintage becomes "ready for drinking" so can't really been regarded as cellar defenders. I don't really see the 2000 vintage as being "ready for drinking" at a mere 21 years old. I'm inclined to agree with Tom - 30 years is a more suitable age to declare most good VP ready, though...

Just to make it official, yes please!

Andy Velebil wrote: ↑

21:24 Fri 04 Sep 2020

Niepoort with their Fahblehauf (spelling?) series of dry wines (all the same juice) and Quinta d. Mourao who also sells the same port under the names Rio Bom and S. Leonardo in diff markets.

Does Dalva still use Presidential in the US, too? Another one for the list.

if took a Prime 30 day dry aged steak and cooked it to beyond well done because that’s how I like it; I’m quite sure you and probably every other cook and butcher would say I destroyed that piece of meat by cooking it too what I like. Just saying. You might be surprised. I used to prefer my steaks ...