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Cockburn 1977
I noticed this on wine searcher; http://www.wine-searcher.com/m/2015/07/ ... y-released saying that Cockburn 77 is finally going to be released.
I remember several people talking positively about the quality of this wine. I for one was quite excited by this. Does anyone have insider knowledge about when and where this will be released? Is it going to be worth seeking out?
I remember several people talking positively about the quality of this wine. I for one was quite excited by this. Does anyone have insider knowledge about when and where this will be released? Is it going to be worth seeking out?
Re: Cockburn 1977
Tasted on 08 Oct 2008, it was wonderful. But at the BFT on 06 May 2015, much less good. YMMV.
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Re: Cockburn 1977
Disagreeing with JDAW; I tasted this in 2013 when I marked it "good/very good", and then in 2015 (at the BFT) where I marked it "very good". Whether it is worth buying will depend on many personal factors as always, and in particular the price compared to other '70s & '77s; I suspect it might be priced higher than typical based on combination of ex-cellars provenance and the small number of cases being released, which I believe is expected to be in the autumn this year.
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It is likely that more than one bottle was used at the BFT.PhilW wrote:Disagreeing with JDAW …in 2015 (at the BFT) where I marked it "very good".
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Re: Cockburn 1977
Having looked at the tenor of the blurb it seems as though you are right Phil. I think it will not try to be comparable with what is available in the market, in terms of price. I wonder whether it might be better to look for a decent 77 which has been stored in the UK rather than lash out between £75 and £130 a bottle (price suggested on the 'Drinks Business' site). But I have always been keen to have a few, which I suppose is what they are hoping. Not sure how much traction this wine will gain if it is overpriced, there seem to be quite a lot of the limited release ports left in the market. But I suppose if they are only bringing 300 bottles into the UK market it doesn't matter much what happens to it.PhilW wrote: Whether it is worth buying will depend on many personal factors as always, and in particular the price compared to other '70s & '77s; I suspect it might be priced higher than typical based on combination of ex-cellars provenance and the small number of cases being released, which I believe is expected to be in the autumn this year.
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Re: Cockburn 1977
I thought a picture might be worth a thousand words.
Just says vintage port, nothing about crusted on the label. The bottle should have been facing the other way, to give the illusion it was gazing keenly into the middle distance. But I must say it looks most attractive.
Just says vintage port, nothing about crusted on the label. The bottle should have been facing the other way, to give the illusion it was gazing keenly into the middle distance. But I must say it looks most attractive.
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Nice pic and I believe a different label to the one at the BFT-although I could be wrong. Anyhow, I agree with Phil I thought that the bottle I tasted at BFT showed a fresh wine with still some way to go to full maturity but whether I would purchase at the pricing indicated is another matter.
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Where and when was that pic taken?
And yes, a very nice looking label.
And yes, a very nice looking label.
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Re: Cockburn 1977
Don't know, it was on the 'Drinks Business' page announcing the release.Andy Velebil wrote:Where and when was that pic taken?
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A suggestion: Team TPF own a small stock of Ck1977 gifted to the collective by the former owners of the brand.
Now that this wine is commercially available we could crack open a bottle at a tasting to allow potential buyers to who have not tasted it to try before they buy.
Thoughts?
Now that this wine is commercially available we could crack open a bottle at a tasting to allow potential buyers to who have not tasted it to try before they buy.
Thoughts?
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Re: Cockburn 1977
Image appears to have been taken on the 21st June at 14:19 (probably UTC), using an iPhone 5s. So, it's a very recent pic, which I would therefore guess is either the latest draft/marketing dummy label, or the final product. Nice label, lovely view (which I imagine someone will be able to recognise?).Andy Velebil wrote:Where and when was that pic taken?
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If the team would at least save one for the next time I am over I would be very grateful. I would bring something appropriate to go with it.DRT wrote:A suggestion: Team TPF own a small stock of Ck1977 gifted to the collective by the former owners of the brand.
Now that this wine is commercially available we could crack open a bottle at a tasting to allow potential buyers to who have not tasted it to try before they buy.
Thoughts?
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Thanks.PhilW wrote:Image appears to have been taken on the 21st June at 14:19 (probably UTC), using an iPhone 5s. So, it's a very recent pic, which I would therefore guess is either the latest draft/marketing dummy label, or the final product. Nice label, lovely view (which I imagine someone will be able to recognise?).Andy Velebil wrote:Where and when was that pic taken?
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I think that could be arrangedAndy Velebil wrote:If the team would at least save one for the next time I am over I would be very grateful. I would bring something appropriate to go with it.DRT wrote:A suggestion: Team TPF own a small stock of Ck1977 gifted to the collective by the former owners of the brand.
Now that this wine is commercially available we could crack open a bottle at a tasting to allow potential buyers to who have not tasted it to try before they buy.
Thoughts?
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
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ThanksDRT wrote:I think that could be arrangedAndy Velebil wrote:If the team would at least save one for the next time I am over I would be very grateful. I would bring something appropriate to go with it.DRT wrote:A suggestion: Team TPF own a small stock of Ck1977 gifted to the collective by the former owners of the brand.
Now that this wine is commercially available we could crack open a bottle at a tasting to allow potential buyers to who have not tasted it to try before they buy.
Thoughts?
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Location seems to be Quinta dos Canais, perhaps unsurprisingly.PhilW wrote:Image appears to have been taken on the 21st June at 14:19 (probably UTC), using an iPhone 5s. So, it's a very recent pic, which I would therefore guess is either the latest draft/marketing dummy label, or the final product. Nice label, lovely view (which I imagine someone will be able to recognise?).Andy Velebil wrote:Where and when was that pic taken?
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I add my name to this plea.Andy Velebil wrote:If the team would at least save one for the next time I am over I would be very grateful. I would bring something appropriate to go with it.DRT wrote:A suggestion: Team TPF own a small stock of Ck1977 gifted to the collective by the former owners of the brand.
Now that this wine is commercially available we could crack open a bottle at a tasting to allow potential buyers to who have not tasted it to try before they buy.
Thoughts?
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Re: Cockburn 1977
I assume this will be imported through Fells in the UK. I wonder where the bottles will end up? The usual suspects in terms of merchants I suppose. If anyone gets news I should be glad to know.
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Does anyone have an update to when and where the Cockburn 1977 will be released?
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"The fall", was the nearest time estimate for the time of release. It might be worth pestering local stockists of Symington wines. I don't know who the importers are in Sweden. In the UK it is Fells. I shall email Berrys in September because I can't think of a better plan.
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Re: Cockburn 1977
I plan to put in an order for at least 6 once it comes around.
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Who has the best relationship with Fells? Perhaps an advance order could be assembled and conveyed to the Symingtons and their UK importers.
None for me.
None for me.
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I'll be interested in buying some Ck77. However, there will be no release in Sweden so I will have to ship from the UK. Does anyone have any new information on the subject?
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Furthermore;JB vintage wrote:Does anyone have an update to when and where the Cockburn 1977 will be released?
Don't panic! Of course if I hear anything I will report it here, however I am slow and generally the last person to know. Others may have the ear of the right person and be able to say sooner. I notice that wine searcher has an email alert button which would presumably tell you when this wine appears on the market. I have never tried it and do not know if you have to be a subscriber in order to use it. But it was a thought.JB vintage wrote:I'll be interested in buying some Ck77. However, there will be no release in Sweden so I will have to ship from the UK. Does anyone have any new information on the subject?
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Re: Cockburn 1977
Great advice! Thank you.