Letter to Bishops on the bread and wine for the Eucharist

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Letter to Bishops on the bread and wine for the Eucharist

Post by jdaw1 » 20:30 Sun 09 Jul 2017

We do not usually mix Port tastings with religion. The Royal Navy prohibits discussion of religion; without going that far we can recognise the potential for purposeless disagreement.

Nonetheless, it might interest some that The Vatican has released a letter to Bishops on the bread and wine for the Eucharist, which says:
The Vatican wrote:The wine that is used in the most sacred celebration of the Eucharistic Sacrifice must be natural, from the fruit of the grape, pure and incorrupt, not mixed with other substances. […] Great care should be taken so that the wine intended for the celebration of the Eucharist is well conserved and has not soured. It is altogether forbidden to use wine of doubtful authenticity or provenance, for the Church requires certainty regarding the conditions necessary for the validity of the sacraments.
Is wine mixed with grape brandy allowed for these purposes? Perhaps a Port company, presumably but not necessarily a Portuguese company, could seek a ruling from the relevant ecclesiastical authorities?

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Post by PhilW » 22:14 Sun 09 Jul 2017

I believe that port has quite commonly been used for communion wine, at least in Anglican churches.

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Re: Letter to Bishops on the bread and wine for the Eucharist

Post by DRT » 23:59 Mon 10 Jul 2017

Whilst clearly not true 'Port", it is commendable that it is available in reasonably sized bottles...

https://www.churchsupplywarehouse.com/c ... Altar_Wine
"The first duty of Port is to be red"

Ernest H. Cockburn

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Re: Letter to Bishops on the bread and wine for the Eucharist

Post by uncle tom » 17:18 Wed 19 Jul 2017

I vaguely recall being told many years ago that the standard CofE communion wine was a 50:50 mix of ruby port and tap water.

This would appear to fail the 'Vatican test' on two counts..
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Re: Letter to Bishops on the bread and wine for the Eucharist

Post by DRT » 22:47 Wed 19 Jul 2017

uncle tom wrote:
17:18 Wed 19 Jul 2017
I vaguely recall being told many years ago that the standard CofE communion wine was a 50:50 mix of ruby port and tap water.

This would appear to fail the 'Vatican test' on two counts..
I'm not entirely sure that the CofE has been bound by the "Vatican test" since the time when Henry VIII decided he needed another wife :wink:
"The first duty of Port is to be red"

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