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Sandeman 1942 - another question...

Posted: 20:42 Tue 13 Nov 2018
by nac
From a different source to the Warre 1963 I've asked about, recently obtained three bottles of Sandeman 1942.
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There isn't a tasting note on TPF, and I can't find anything recent elsewhere. Does anybody know anything about this wine?

Re: Sandeman 1942 - another question...

Posted: 20:58 Tue 13 Nov 2018
by Alex Bridgeman
1942 was a very good but very small vintage. No-one was available to work the vineyards so very little was bottled. There isn’t a tasting note since I don’t think any of us have tasted it! That’s definitely a bottle that other Port lovers would very much like to share with you (and, I’m sure, would bring something appropriate to share in return).

I know I would!

Re: Sandeman 1942 - another question...

Posted: 21:16 Tue 13 Nov 2018
by nac
From the same source, also acquired a stock of Ferreira 45, Tuke Holdsworth 47, Mackenzie 48, Boa Vista 50 and Delaforce 58. Given they're all quite rare I might arrange a tasting in early 2019 if there's sufficient interest...

Venue would probably be 67 Pall Mall.

Re: Sandeman 1942 - another question...

Posted: 22:25 Tue 13 Nov 2018
by Alex Bridgeman
I’d definitely be up for a tasting and could contribute a bottle or two of equally rare or unusual port.

And I’ve wanted to visit 67 Pall Mall for a while, so that would be a great choice of venue.

Re: Sandeman 1942 - another question...

Posted: 07:55 Wed 14 Nov 2018
by PhilW
Sounds like an excellent idea for a tasting to me; the Sandeman '42 is particularly unusual and interesting.

Re: Sandeman 1942 - another question...

Posted: 10:45 Wed 14 Nov 2018
by flash_uk
That's a great bundle of ports nac! I've also got a Tuke Holdsworth '47 waiting for a good reason to be opened - would be happy to stand it next to yours if the opportunity presents itself. I've only been to 67 Pall Mall once and very much enjoyed it.

Re: Sandeman 1942 - another question...

Posted: 13:25 Wed 14 Nov 2018
by JB vintage
nac wrote: 21:16 Tue 13 Nov 2018 From the same source, also acquired a stock of Ferreira 45, Tuke Holdsworth 47, Mackenzie 48, Boa Vista 50 and Delaforce 58. Given they're all quite rare I might arrange a tasting in early 2019 if there's sufficient interest...

Venue would probably be 67 Pall Mall.
That sounds like a wonderful tasting and I might bring my 1935 "Pall-Mall" Vintage. My Vintage 1935 "Pall-Mall" is probably a buyers brand. I have some indications that it might be connected to C. da Silva though. Anyhow, I can't see any better place to drink this bottle than at Pall Mall.

Re: Sandeman 1942 - another question...

Posted: 11:43 Sun 18 Nov 2018
by jdaw1
nac wrote: 21:16 Tue 13 Nov 2018Ferreira 45, Tuke Holdsworth 47, Mackenzie 48, Boa Vista 50 and Delaforce 58.
I’m impressed.

Re: Sandeman 1942 - another question...

Posted: 12:32 Sun 18 Nov 2018
by uncle tom
A Graham '42 won wine of the night at a Graham vertical tasting back in November 2012 - I haven't opened one since, and have still got three bottles left from that stash..

..I feel an excuse coming on!

Re: Sandeman 1942 - another question...

Posted: 16:29 Wed 21 Nov 2018
by nac
jdaw1 wrote: 11:43 Sun 18 Nov 2018
nac wrote: 21:16 Tue 13 Nov 2018Ferreira 45, Tuke Holdsworth 47, Mackenzie 48, Boa Vista 50 and Delaforce 58.
I’m impressed.
Came via a "special" Corney & Barrow offer. They were from the estate of a client who had passed away.

In theory all of the bottles were below the standard C&B would normally sell - ie, low levels, seepage, etc - and the pricing reflected this. For example, £12 for the Sandeman 42, £24 for the Mackenzie 48, £18 for the Delaforce 58.

So far I've opened Delaforce 47, Ferreira 45, Mackenzie 48, Offley Boa Vista 50 and a Delaforce 58. In each case they've been the worst examples I've got (some around low-shoulder) and all have been at least pretty good. Most of the bottles are in significantly better condition.

Apparently they'd been in the cellar for years, unmoved, with pretty much perfect conditions. I suspect some of the bottles with lower levels may have leaked when they were moved...

Re: Sandeman 1942 - another question...

Posted: 20:20 Sun 02 Dec 2018
by nac
Lunch today with the Mackenzie 48 & Delaforce 58.
I thought both were very good, but popular vote was for the Delaforce. M very medicinal.
Both bottles around base of neck, so pretty good for age.