Stay Me With Flagons: Corrections and Comments

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Stay Me With Flagons: Corrections and Comments

Post by John Danza » 17:43 Sun 28 Sep 2008

In the thread titled Stay Me With Flagons by Maurice Healy, John Danza wrote:

This thread contains the text of the chapter on Port in André L. Simon’s book Vintagewise, as typed by jdaw1. There will doubtless be errors in the typing, and readers may well have other comments. Please post corrections and comments in the thread Stay Me With Flagons: Corrections and Comments.
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Re: Stay Me With Flagons: Corrections and Comments

Post by John Danza » 18:10 Sun 28 Sep 2008

Maurice Healy was a close personal friend of Andre Simon and many other of the "movers and shakers" in the English wine business of the 1930s and 1940s. A lawyer by trade, most of his interest in wine was driven by his association with both Andre Simon and AJA Symons, the primary founders of The Wine & Food Society. This association lead him to write several books about wine, with Stay Me With Flagons being his last.

The unusual name is taken from an early English translation of the Bible. The original text was "Fulcite me Floribus, stipate me malis; quia amore lanueo." Through a series of translations, the first part of the text first became "Stay me with flowers", then became "Stay me with flagons", then became "Stay me with raisins". In the Middle Ages, when the Bible was to be rewritten, it was deemed that the word "raisin-cake" was to be substituted for the word "wine". As he explains in the opening chapter, it is from this fairly complicated explanation that he arrived at the title of the book, using "flagons" to mean wine. Throughout his life, Maurice was a very spiritual man.

Maurice was instrumental in the founding of two wine clubs that still exist today. He was an original founder of The Saintsbury Club in 1931, a very exclusive club (50 members only) that consists mostly of authors, lawyers, and doctors. He was also on the original Advisory Council of The Wine & Food Society when it was formed in 1933.

Maurice Healy fell ill in 1942 and died on 9 May, 1943. He was memorialized by Andre Simon in No. 38, the Summer 1943 issue of WIne & Food, the quarterly publication of The Wine & Food Society.
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Re: Stay Me With Flagons: Corrections and Comments

Post by John Danza » 15:05 Tue 14 Oct 2008

For some reason, I can't find the original posting that I made. Administrators, did you take it down?

I just received the following from the Penguin Group relative to permissions:
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Re: Stay Me With Flagons: Corrections and Comments

Post by jdaw1 » 20:55 Tue 14 Oct 2008

John Danza wrote:For some reason, I can't find the original posting that I made. Administrators, did you take it down?
No, I promoted it to the brand new Reference forum.

BTW, the first post in this thread is copied from the wrong place.

And thank-you for typing the text: good port does slither down rather nicely.

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Re: Stay Me With Flagons: Corrections and Comments

Post by John Danza » 21:00 Tue 14 Oct 2008

jdaw1 wrote:
John Danza wrote:For some reason, I can't find the original posting that I made. Administrators, did you take it down?
No, I promoted it to the brand new Reference forum.

BTW, the first post in this thread is copied from the wrong place.
Hi Julian,

When I click on the original link in my first post, I get this error message: "You are not authorised to read this forum." Should I just change that post? I also don't understand about the first post being copied from the wrong place.
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Re: Stay Me With Flagons: Corrections and Comments

Post by Andy Velebil » 15:02 Sat 18 Oct 2008

Yes,
I do believe that a couple of my posts in this thread have been deleted..is that the case. If so could you please at least advise me of such, I would appreciate it.

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Re: Stay Me With Flagons: Corrections and Comments

Post by jdaw1 » 17:21 Sat 18 Oct 2008

The most recent backup was a little over 24 hours before the hack attack. Posts made in that interval are MIA.

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