Port in Paris
Posted: 23:40 Sat 25 Jul 2009
An ongoing grumble is developing on the subject of Port in Paris. To spare other readers the flagellation it can come to this thread.
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[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=27915#p27915]Here[/url] jdaw1 wrote:Monoprix on Boulevard de Sébastopol has:
- Graham’s Porto, Finest Reserve (€12,30);
- Graham’s LBV 2000 (€24,69);
- Porto de Oro 10Y Tawny (€12,85);
- Hooper’s LBV 2002 (€12,99);
- Porto Cruz Special Reserve (€9,95);
- Porto de Oro Tawny (€6,29);
- Sandeman Ruby Porto (€8,08);
- Ferreira Porto Tawny (€8,92);
- Porto do Oro Blanc (€6,29);
- Porto Pitters Tawny (€7,39);
- Porto Ereiro Tawny (€5,90);
- Porto Cruz Blanc (€7,88);
- Porto Cruz Tawny (€7,88);
- Porto Cruz Pink (€7,35).
[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=27982#p27982]Here[/url] jdaw1 wrote:I have found that which claims to be the best port shop in France, Lavina, at 3 Boulevard de la Madeleine (near Place d’Opera), 75001 Paris, +33 1 42 97 20 20. Graham 1970! Except that they want €288 a bottle. Likewise Taylor 1963 for a mere €503. Nacional 1970 costs €994,80; and Fonseca 2000 at €295 a magnum or €153,25 a bottle.
Also two bottles of use for tastings: Fojo 1998 at €60,80; and Fojo 1996 at €56.
The shop assistant was most interesting. As with other cavists, he insists that the French neither understand nor drink good port. Indeed, Lavinia used to have more, but they’re not buying any, are selling their stocks gradually, and seem to intend not to replace any.
He took my card, and promised to give my details to any portheads who happen to visit.
[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=28000#p28000]Here[/url] jdaw1 wrote:Nysa Vins & spiritueux on 94 rue Montorgueil had:
• Quinta de Santa Barbara, Special Reserve Tawny, at €17,50 a bottle;
• Porto Osmann 10Y, at €27,50.
The former is interesting: I thought that Santa Barbara is owned by the IVDP and used for experiments. Maybe I misremembered.
[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=28001#p28001]Here[/url] jdaw1 wrote:Next I must mention Nicolas . They are everywhere. In the UK they would be said to have a monopoly, but doubtless French libel lawyers would tell me that the term is ‟national champion” or some other guff. Apparently there are 250ish of them in Paris. I have photos of the dodgy-looking stuff they sell, but the data below also uses the website.
• Graham's Quinta Dos Malvedos 1998, €42.60;
• King's Port Blanc, €9;
• King's Port Red Crown 20Y, €33.10;
• King's Port Ruby Reserva Especial, €7.75;
• King's Port Tawny, €8.90;
• Lágrima Adriano Ramos-Pinto €14.75;
• Noval Fine Ruby, €10.55;
• Noval Fine White, €10.65;
• Noval Tawny 10Y, €23.20;
• Noval Tawny 20Y, €40;
• Quinta de Sao Pedro das Aguias Ruby, €10.65;
• Ramos Pinto 10Y Tawny, Quinta de Ervamoira, €25.75;
• Rozès Vintage 1997, €25.10 (website says LBV, but it is vintage);
• Sao Pedro das Aguias 10Y, €16.10;
• Taylor's LBV 2001, €20.75;
• Taylor 10Y, €28.10.
[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=28002#p28002]Here[/url] jdaw1 wrote:Le Repaire de Bacchus is a much smaller chain of shops. The one at 6 Rue Bayen, 75017 Paris, +33 1 47 66 76 75 was tended by a fine damsel vaguely interested in port, who now has my card. Meanwhile:
• Andresen 1991 colheita, €32.50;
• Andresen 1995 colheita, €25.90;
• Andresen 2003 vintage, €59;
• Andresen tawny, €13.75;
• Andresen white, €14.90;
• Ramos-Pinto 2003 LBV, €25;
• Halves of Smith Woodhouse 2000 vintage, €29.75.
I think, but am not absolutely sure, that it was in a previous visit to a branch of this chain that I saw the Noval 1968 colheita for €144.85.
Will that be enough to hold you temporarily?jdaw1 wrote:There are plans afoot for Derek to deliver an emergency red cross parcel. Maybe ten cases or so.
If you have suitable storage and wouldn't mind temporarily holding some bottles, it might be more efficient to add the 4 bottles that Derek is currently holding for me to this emergency delivery to you in Paris. I could then pick them up in person between Oct 22 and Oct 25.jdaw1 wrote:There are plans afoot for Derek to deliver an emergency red cross parcel. Maybe ten cases or so.
Not really: Derek is visiting that weekend.Andy V wrote:Will that be enough to hold you temporarily?jdaw1 wrote:There are plans afoot for Derek to deliver an emergency red cross parcel. Maybe ten cases or so.
Je pense que les meilleurs sont trop chers..1977 Taylor's, 250€
1985 Do Noval Nacional, 420€
1997 Do Noval, 214€
1998 Dow's, 79€
2000 Graham's, 85€
2000 Dow's, 80€
2000 Ramos Pinto, 67€
Those are more or less the same prices as you can find in Portugal. That doesn't make them any cheaper though. If you buy, I would be interested to hear what you think of the wines.Also two bottles of use for tastings: Fojo 1998 at €60,80; and Fojo 1996 at €56