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Rozes,
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Delaforce

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Jdaw,

you might want to sum up Calem, Barros, Kopke and Burmester under Sogevinus.

+ Andresen will also declare

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+ La Rosa
+ Tedo

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Thank you done.
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+ Barao de Vilar
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+ Krohn
+ Krohn Retiro Novo
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RAYC wrote:
AHB wrote:The Big Fortified Tasting will be showing samples of the following:
  • Vesuvio Capella
I wondered whether this was a re-brand or a mistake in the BFT catalogue!
It is a mistake - That should read Capela da Quinta do Vesuvio 2011. You can also now satisfy a little of your curiousity about Graham's The Stone Terraces 2011 on line. More details in a feature article in a day or two.
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The Vintage Port Site wrote:The Symington family are very pleased and proud to announce our decision to declare 2011 Vintage Ports for seven of our brands: Graham’s, Dow’s, Warre’s, Cockburn’s, Quinta do Vesuvio and Smith Woodhouse, as well as the Prats + Symington brand Quinta de Roriz. In addition, the extraordinary conditions of 2011 have enabled us to once more make the limited edition Capela da Quinta do Vesuvio 2011 (previously made only in 2007), and Graham’s has produced the limited edition Graham’s The Stone Terraces Vintage Port for the first time.
All as revealed on :tpf: nine days ago.

No Gould Campbell? Was that a Symington decision, or IVDP silliness? (And if the latter, would we be told? No.)
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No Gould Campbell?
No, nor Quarles Harris nor Martinez. These ports are typically made with the grapes bought in from Douro farmers, primarily in the Pinhão and Rio Torto valleys. For 2011 Symington was focussed on the opportunity to make creme de la creme ports from our own quintas - and when Charles reviewed the possible blends for these brands, the wines were simply not in the same league, so the decision was taken to let this year pass for those brands.
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Cynthia J wrote:These ports are typically made with the grapes bought in from Douro farmers, primarily in the Pinhão and Rio Torto valleys. For 2011 Symington was focussed on the opportunity to make creme de la creme ports from our own quintas - and when Charles reviewed the possible blends for these brands, the wines were simply not in the same league, so the decision was taken to let this year pass for those brands.
Very fair. We traditionalists might slightly mourn the decline, over the last century or so, of Martinez, but that’s how it is.

Are the Symingtons willing to give estimated optimal drinking windows for their 2011 declarations? Which will be at peak first, and which will take longest?
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Are the Symingtons willing to give estimated optimal drinking windows for their 2011 declarations? Which will be at peak first, and which will take longest?
No, they do not do this. I don't think I have ever heard or seen SFE put "drink by" dates on their wines! The only call we ever make in this regard is to say that the quinta vintage ports generally are not expected to be as long lived as their corresponding branded declarations, but what I have tasted of Malvedos in the 50s and early 60s makes that seem a modest statement. And as you know, storage conditions are everything.
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I have enquired about boulders”  no answer yet.

”  Large-format stone( terrace)s, of course.
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You know that at the Vinum Restaurant every table has a little arrangement of schist as a centrepiece? I'm not sure how much more stone we can spare right now...
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Cynthia J wrote:I don't think I have ever heard or seen SFE put "drink by" dates on their wines!
I’m asking about the opposite of a ‟drink by” date. Instead, what about a ‟wait until” date. E.g., ‟Will be at its best by about 2030, and will drink beautifully for a long time after.” That would have, midst the marketing gush, something useful.
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Cynthia J wrote:You know that at the Vinum Restaurant every table has a little arrangement of schist as a centrepiece? I'm not sure how much more stone we can spare right now...
any word if the grahams' stones are going to see light of day state side?
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g-man wrote:any word if the grahams' stones are going to see light of day state side?
Indeed, will they all go to Asia?
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Will there be a Quinta do Tedo Savedra 2011?
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- Krohn Retiro Novo (I was mistaken on this)

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Noval declaring - awaiting confirmation re. NN

High budget Metzendorff catalogue arrived in the post this morning - thought it might contain a pre-declaration brief, but TFP products relegated to the rear, and not a mention of 2011... :?
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Krohn did declare a Retiro Novo. Had this false in mind. Bottle(s) arrived yesterday.

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Axel P wrote:Bottle(s) arrived yesterday.
Please post photographs of all the 2011 VP bottles. Or send them to me, by any of the obvious means, and I will scale and crop and post.
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is it me or is the dow label slightly crooked?
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g-man wrote:is it me or is the dow label slightly crooked?
I think it is an optical illusion caused by the reflection of light on the Warre.

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