DRT wrote:Was that the swap for Delaforce (plus lots of cash)?
Not sure, but I don't think the two have anything to do with each other.
They bought the offices, lodges, and cellars of RCV but have rented some space back to them last I heard. Not sure what is the case now or where RCV may have moved to. It's a massive property up by the motorway. I've been there once and the size is daunting compared to most other lodges.
This has been an excellent thread and one which gives backing to the adage 'there's no room for sentimentality in business' , although more's the pity as a couple of friends and I are quite fond of the Krohn Colheitas and believe them to be perhaps the best exponent of the style. However, this continued premiumisation is evident in the fact that Graham's 1982 Prince George Colheita (or single year harvest tawny-or whaever they're choosing to call it) is, I see, retailing for £95 (with the 4.5 litre Jeroboam at £620!). The Krohn 78 retails at half this-but for how long?
I had not realised that this is intended as the first of an annual "50yr anniversary" series
Taylor Website wrote:Taylor’s has decided to make a limited release, each year, of a Single Harvest Port made 50 years previously.
The first in the series is a 1964 Single Harvest of exceptional character.The 1964 Single Harvest release will be followed a year later by the launch of an equally rare and exceptional 1965. Further annual releases of 50 year old Single Harvest Ports will follow.
50th Anniversary Release of Taylor's Very Old Single Harvest Port 1964
This year marks the 50th anniversary of an incredible creation by the Taylor's port house in 1964. Just one year after the hugely successful harvest of conventional vintage port, the celebrated Douro estate set aside a small portion of their crop to be aged separately in seasoned oak casks for the entirety of its life. Single harvest ports are known as colheitas, and this one is now at full maturity and ready for immediate drinking. This incredible wine is the result of slow, oxidative ageing to produce a silky and elegant style of port with more complexity and development than its bottle”“aged cousin.
1964 was a special year for many people making this the perfect gift for a 50th birthday or a Golden wedding anniversary.
50th Anniversary Release of Taylor's Very Old Single Harvest Port 1964
This year marks the 50th anniversary of an incredible creation by the Taylor's port house in 1964. Just one year after the hugely successful harvest of conventional vintage port, the celebrated Douro estate set aside a small portion of their crop to be aged separately in seasoned oak casks for the entirety of its life. Single harvest ports are known as colheitas, and this one is now at full maturity and ready for immediate drinking. This incredible wine is the result of slow, oxidative ageing to produce a silky and elegant style of port with more complexity and development than its bottle”“aged cousin.
1964 was a special year for many people making this the perfect gift for a 50th birthday or a Golden wedding anniversary.
If this is from the Krohn's lot they bought, I think someone needs to point out them they are quite wrong in their description. And that price
RAYC wrote:50th Anniversary Release of Taylor's Very Old Single Harvest Port 1964
If this is from the Krohn's lot they bought, I think someone needs to point out them they are quite wrong in their description. And that price
The only Krohn '64 colheita I can see around is a white colheita; since the Taylor '64 does not say "white" I would guess this might be something else?
RAYC wrote:Oh - and the Lay & Wheeler email spiel (which i have to assume was drated by Lay & Wheeler rather than TFP) did amuse me:
Would have been even more interesting if it has said "1964 Taylohn", but sadly given keyboard layouts I imagine this is just a simple typo. I really dislike the rather brainless "1964 was a special year for many people" as if that isn't true for any year you choose; I understand the goal of marketing for anniversaries, but please!
Andy Velebil wrote:Phil
Krohn's has a huge amount of old Tawny's. My understanding is this was from the Krohn's stock. But I've not confirmed that yet.
Given their recent acquisition, and the idea of doing this every year, it wouldn't be surprising if this was their plan for the Krohn stock. I wasn't saying it wasn't Krohn, just that it was interesting that as far as I can tell there isn't currently a Krohn '64 (standard) colheita on the market, only the Krohn '64 white colheita; so presumably this release is different from that (though potentially still Krohn).
RAYC wrote:50th Anniversary Release of Taylor's Very Old Single Harvest Port 1964
If this is from the Krohn's lot they bought, I think someone needs to point out them they are quite wrong in their description. And that price
The only Krohn '64 colheita I can see around is a white colheita; since the Taylor '64 does not say "white" I would guess this might be something else?
I could swear that I've seen a standard 1964 Krohn Colheita before. Not in the US, obviously, or I would have bought it. But I do also browse for 1964 Ports in Europe so that if I find something at a reasonable price I can have it shipped to London for eventual pickup, and that's where I think I've seen a 1964 Krohn Colheita before.
Of course, it could also have simply been mis-listed, or I could be mis-remembering.
Glenn E. wrote:I could swear that I've seen a standard 1964 Krohn Colheita before. Not in the US, obviously, or I would have bought it. But I do also browse for 1964 Ports in Europe so that if I find something at a reasonable price I can have it shipped to London for eventual pickup, and that's where I think I've seen a 1964 Krohn Colheita before.
It would be interesting if so. I just had a quick search on wine-searcher, and they seem to have 15 suppliers worldwide with the Krohn 64 white/branco colheita, and one listed as Krohn 64 colheita which when you go to their web page the bottle image shows "branco" in small letters underneath (though easy to miss, to be honest). Looking at the FTLOP tasting note database, there is one note for the white 64, and one note for Krohn 64 colheita with no mention of white/branco with the note dated 2011-07-30, the FTLOP 6th Anniversary Celebration - I wonder if there are any photos of the bottle from that night for confirmation?
It's getting more interesting. This is from an email I just got from the Rare Wine Co.....
Impressive Array
This is the first release from Taylor’s collection of rare Single Harvest Ports, the result of their purchase of the great old colheita specialist Wiese and Krohn last year.
I don't believe that Taylor had a 1964 Colheita of their own ready to go. This new SHT (pun, such as it is, intended) has to have come from Krohn. I have nothing to support that belief other than the fact that Taylor has never had anything like this before, yet now they're planning a yearly release? The timing is just too much to be coincidence.
The link Phil found at FTLOP is actually to a 1964 Kopke TN, which mentions a 1960 Krohn. I don't remember either bottle, but will search my own records to see what I can find. I seriously doubt that I've ever had a 1964 Krohn Colheita (not Branco), as that would have been memorable for me. I can only vaguely remember seeing one listed online, which if true means it was probably in Europe and more expensive than I was willing to pay.
djewesbury wrote:Ooh. Someone should inform Lay & Wheeler.
Someone already tried, I think.
Indeed, i even quoted Sarah Ahmed's review:
Sarah Ahmed wrote:The week before last, CEO Adrian Bridge gave me a sneak preview of the first of a series of 50 year old Colheita Ports to be released from said Wiese & Krohn stock ”“ a 1964 Taylor’s Colheita. Bridge told me, where Taylor’s is the leading Tawny brand (with 40% of the market by value), he is happy to leverage its brand collateral to build the fast growing premium Tawny category yet further. Expect a follow on to Very Old (1850s) Tawny Taylor’s Scion too.
The "follow-on" to Scion was interesting - i wonder if they will be re-branding the 1863 that was released by W&K just last year....
RAYC wrote:The "follow-on" to Scion was interesting - i wonder if they will be re-branding the 1863 that was released by W&K just last year....
Together with marketing blurb along the lines of "1863 was a special year for many people making this the perfect gift for a 151st birthday or wedding anniversary."
Top Ports in 2023: Taylor 1896 Colheita, b. 2021. A perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
