A practical design of a better decanter

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A practical design of a better decanter

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Some moons ago, I designed a better decanter. In theory I have been willing to give the design to anyone who would make me a dozen of them, but enthusiastic takers have been few and far between. So it’s now on my website: A practical design of a better decanter.

Comment would be welcome. A set of a dozen decanters would be preferred.
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European wines are now coming in 700 mL bottles? Who knew!

I like the design. If you do not need cut crystal, you might try a local artisan glass blower (alas, probably for a fee). They would not be identical that way, but each one would be slightly different, allowing for the memories to flow whenever you bring one out.

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Try sending it to Edinburgh Crystal - see if they think it's viable.

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Forgive me being brashly commercial, but shouldn't you think about protecting this via a registered design, or at least asserting your copyright?
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© notice

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Everything on the website has a clear © notice, but for clarity I’ve added one to the diagrams. Good idea thank you.
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I need somebody who knows somebody.

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uncle tom wrote:Try sending it to Edinburgh Crystal - see if they think it's viable.
IIRC, correctly, I did. I need somebody who knows somebody.
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of the order of $40 per decanter, including ground stopper

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Jay P wrote:local artisan glass blower
Found one, and not dear. It might be of the order of $40 per decanter, including ground stopper. I’ve asked for one to be made as a trial: if it (or a subsequent trial) is good, who else wants a set of, say, fifteen matching decanters? And a couple of magnum decanters? A must for every home. A boon to the working woman. Etc.
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Re: of the order of $40 per decanter, including ground stopp

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jdaw1 wrote:
Jay P wrote:local artisan glass blower
Found one, and not dear. It might be of the order of $40 per decanter, including ground stopper. I’ve asked for one to be made as a trial: if it (or a subsequent trial) is good, who else wants a set of, say, fifteen matching decanters? And a couple of magnum decanters? A must for every home. A boon to the working woman. Etc.
Fifteen? I was thinking of maybe two.
Port is basically a red drink
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Is there an option to see the prototype before deciding?!
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SIgn me up for 6 if they come out well, if they come out bad .... :roll:
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Yes. Pictures of a prototype will be posted here.

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benread wrote:Is there an option to see the prototype before deciding?!
Yes. Pictures of a prototype will be posted here. But I wanted some vague non-binding indication of numbers.
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jdaw1 wrote:
benread wrote:Is there an option to see the prototype before deciding?!
Yes. Pictures of a prototype will be posted here. But I wanted some vague non-binding indication of numbers.
I will possibly take 6 depending on overall cost including delivery - are these being made in the USA?

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If there's a "no order too small" policy and transportation to the UK is a possibility, I'd certainly be interested in acquiring one.

-Jacob (who likes having a miscellaneous collection of decanters)
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My guess is that whoever orders the most will take delivery

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My guess is that whoever orders the most will take delivery of the UK consignment, for subsequent distribution — presumably at tastings. Doesn’t Uncle Tom want a entire set of matching decanters? That is, rather than others piffling about with the odd half-dozen.

But all this is subject to my being satisfied with the handiwork.

Derek: do you want any in black glass, to match your black glasses? Scary! And yes, made in the USA.
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jdaw1 wrote:Yes. Pictures of a prototype will be posted here. But I wanted some vague non-binding indication of numbers.
Would be interested in a pair then. Very interested to see outcome of prototype when available.
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Decanter counts: who wants how many?

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Plain glass single-bottle decanters:
  • 15 jdaw1;
  • 6 Derek T.;
  • 6 DifferentDave;
  • 2 KillerB;
  • 2 BenRead;
  • 2 AHB;
  • 2 G-Man;
  • 1 Jacob H.
    36 Total
Black glass single-bottle decanters:
  • 2 jdaw1;
  • 2 Derek T.;
  • 1 AHB.
    5 Total
Plain glass magnum decanters:
  • 2 jdaw1.
    2 Total
Black glass magnum decanters:
  • 0 Total
All of these numbers are subject to confirmation when pictures of a prototype available. As DifferentDave and G-Man are local to me, I will endeavour to give them an opportunity to handle and comment on the prototype(s).

Is there anyone on :ftlop: whose attention should be drawn to this thread?
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Put me down for two clear decanters (as a first order) and one black decanter (assuming that these are not different in price to those made out of clear glass).

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I'd take 2 also
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jdaw1 wrote:Derek: do you want any in black glass, to match your black glasses? Scary!
If these are possible and the same price as clear glass I will take 2.

Tom was definitely after a set of 12 identical decanters. I would suggest you email him a link to this thread if you have not already done so.

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So the chap didn’t answer emails. But his business card recently appeared on my desk, as if by magic, or by surfacing from a pile of ignored papers. So I called, and his answer machine was full. Doesn’t bode well. Then he called back! Apparently his wife ‘handles’ the emails. My email was found. A trial decanter is to be made. Photographs, and if appropriate the whole decanter, will be sent to me.

More to follow.
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Did you advise him that the chances of selling a batch would be greatly improved if you could bring one the the UK in early October?
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It might take two or three tries before it’s worth bringing one across. I don’t know how well my lip will pour.
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Surely v0.1 should be reviewed by the proposed investment committee?
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Or at least photo thereof.

The idea of carrying round the Douro a decanter that I know to be faulty has, at best, little appeal. Let me see what comes — if great, yes. If not, I’ll share photos and we can proceed to version 2.
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jdaw1 wrote:Or at least photo thereof.

The idea of carrying round the Douro a decanter that I know to be faulty has, at best, little appeal. Let me see what comes — if great, yes. If not, I’ll share photos and we can proceed to version 2.
OK. But surely the first released version will be v1.0, therefore he second pre-release will be v0.2?
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