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1980 Borges and Irmão

Posted: 00:24 Sat 20 Aug 2011
by jdaw1

Re: 1980 Borges & Irmão

Posted: 12:05 Tue 23 Aug 2011
by Alex Bridgeman
Very pale, 10% opaque, slightly cloudy. VA on the nose - very tawny / colheita with marzipan dominating a rather unpleasant combination. Sweet entry, little flavour other than some brown sugar. Hollow, and with little fruit, mostly the flavours are of plastic. Unpleasant. Hot aftertaste, with some dryness on the finish and of short length. Shot to bits; not unpleasant - just nothing. 74/100.

Re: 1980 Borges & Irmão

Posted: 12:21 Tue 23 Aug 2011
by jdaw1
Yikes: I don’t recall an AHB score that low. Generally those so low aren’t rated.

Re: 1980 Borges & Irmão

Posted: 20:08 Tue 23 Aug 2011
by Alex Bridgeman
jdaw1 wrote:Yikes: I don’t recall an AHB score that low. Generally those so low aren’t rated.
True, I seldom gives scores that low. However, based on an admittedly limited experience, I have formed an opinion that Borges vintage ports do not mature well. Since I am not convinced that this was a bad bottle, I gave it a score. The port was not offensive - other than by being so bland as to be nothing. Hence a score, albeit a low one. Low enough to mean that if someone offered me a glass of Borges 1980 or a glass of water I would probably choose the water.

Re: 1980 Borges & Irmão

Posted: 03:41 Fri 26 Aug 2011
by marc j.
AHB wrote:
jdaw1 wrote:Yikes: I don’t recall an AHB score that low. Generally those so low aren’t rated.
True, I seldom gives scores that low. However, based on an admittedly limited experience, I have formed an opinion that Borges vintage ports do not mature well. Since I am not convinced that this was a bad bottle, I gave it a score. The port was not offensive - other than by being so bland as be be nothing. Hence a score, albeit a low one. Low enough to mean that if someone offered me a glass of Borges 1980 or a glass of water I would probably choose the water.
WOW! That's saying something. By the way, have you ever tried the 1972 Offley...

Re: 1980 Borges & Irmão

Posted: 22:52 Fri 26 Aug 2011
by Alex Bridgeman
marc j. wrote: WOW! That's saying something. By the way, have you ever tried the 1972 Offley...
Not yet, but I have one lined up to be opened next year...

Re: 1980 Borges & Irmão

Posted: 20:11 Tue 30 Aug 2011
by WS1
Alex's mark is fully justified; I even think the wine was already maderised :( . There is furher sad news; I have bought in total two bts in order to get the 1980 horicontal complete. This was just the fisrt one. There is a slight chance that the second bt is better since this one was leaking which may have helped the oxidation. However this does not in the slightest change anything for this bt. This was not a very good example of a good vintage port at all. :? :(

regards

WS1

Re: 1980 Borges & Irmão

Posted: 00:19 Sun 04 Sep 2011
by JacobH
AHB wrote:Low enough to mean that if someone offered me a glass of Borges 1980 or a glass of water I would probably choose the water.
:?: :!: :?: Good grief...I am rendered completely speechless... :shock: :shock: