2011 Horizontal - London, Sunday 23rd April 2051

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 12:52 Sun 14 Jul 2013

1. Can I bring a guest please? RB, dexter.
2. Does someone want to draft a

codicil that can be added into existing wills, or copied into new ones? I'm about to make my will. I would like to specify a next-of-port who will take the bottles that I have pledged to TBH in the event of my death. Perhaps we could organise something along the lines of a phone tree? If I die, my bottles go to X for safekeeping. If X is dead, etc etc.
3. I am expecting that we will have discovered an immortality elixir by 2051; and that it will be found to exist in large quantities in a lesser port brand (perhaps Sainsburys TTD 03?)

Deleted_User_1 · Post by **Deleted_User_1** » 12:46 Tue 16 Jul 2013

Could you put me on the reserve list for this...I may have forgiven Derek by then!!

RAYC · Post by **RAYC** » 13:43 Tue 16 Jul 2013

"Quinta do Vesuvio Capela" is a convenient moniker, but for an event like this should it not be given its proper name on the tasting mats?

Post by **jdaw1** » 14:12 Tue 16 Jul 2013

RAYC wrote:"Quinta do Vesuvio Capela" is a convenient moniker, but for an event like this should it not be given its proper name on the tasting mats?

Quite right, Capela da Quinta do Vesuvio it is or soon will be. We have traditionally used the abbreviation ‟VC”: any objection to that?

Post by **PhilW** » 08:03 Wed 17 Jul 2013

jdaw1 wrote:
RAYC wrote:"Quinta do Vesuvio Capela" is a convenient moniker, but for an event like this should it not be given its proper name on the tasting mats?
Quite right, Capela da Quinta do Vesuvio it is or soon will be. We have traditionally used the abbreviation ‟VC”: any objection to that?

For abbreviation, use of "Vesuvio" as primary and "Capela" as secondary term, hence VC, seems to fit with our general philosophy. For the image database I have had to make slight variation to cope with all tawnies and name variations, so have gone with parameters of "Supplier" and "Full name" (I may add quinta as well later, where relevant, but currently not over-convinced of value for the VPID), so "Quinta do Vesuvio" for supplier and "Capela da Quinta do Vesuvio" as full name, abbreviation "VC".

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 18:40 Sat 20 Jul 2013

I've just been put up for a club that has a waiting list for full membership of 27 years. I thought I should let everyone know that I may open a few bottles of 2011 before this offline, if I get elected.

Post by **DRT** » 23:14 Sat 20 Jul 2013

djewesbury wrote:I've just been put up for a club that has a waiting list for full membership of 27 years. I thought I should let everyone know that I may open a few bottles of 2011 before this offline, if I get elected.

Does this compromise your list of wines available for this tasting? If so, please specify which are no longer available. It's not long now until the final placemats need to be produced so please don't leave us hanging in the balance for too long

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 23:21 Sat 20 Jul 2013

DRT wrote:
djewesbury wrote:I've just been put up for a club that has a waiting list for full membership of 27 years. I thought I should let everyone know that I may open a few bottles of 2011 before this offline, if I get elected.
Does this compromise your list of wines available for this tasting? If so, please specify which are no longer available. It's not long now until the final placemats need to be produced so please don't leave us hanging in the balance for too long

I'll make sure my celebrations aren't too exuberant in 2040...

WS1 · Post by **WS1** » 10:19 Sun 21 Jul 2013

Hi,

wow! You all are very confident to be round in 2051! I am not sure and hence I opt at this stage to believe not and hope to be pleasantly suprised to be able to be there in 2051.

With regards to the ports of 2011 I am not so sure if they will age as brilliantly as e.g. the 55s, 60s, 66s or 70s will. I fear quite a few will not show well and be rather tired by then. Not because 2011 is not an excellent year but rather portmaking has advanced and most producers no longer make wines like in the good old days.
Anyway in case I will be round there will be a 1970 horicontal the year before (in 2050) to which the usual suspects I am sure will turn up.

For obvious reasons it will be no longer 35 different VPs e.g. I will not want to keep any Hutchinson....
Outside only problem is/will be my dangerously low stock of currently ~140bts of various lovely 1970 VP which may have been further decimated by then...

regards

WS1

Post by **jdaw1** » 20:22 Sun 21 Jul 2013

WS1 wrote:wow! You all are very confident to be round in 2051! I am not sure and hence I opt at this stage to believe not and hope to be pleasantly suprised to be able to be there in 2051.

!
Anyway in case I will be round there will be a 1970 horicontal the year before (in 2050) to which the usual suspects I am sure will turn up.

A very precise mortality forecast: you think that you will be well enough to drink in 2050, but buried by 2051. OK, we defer to your expertise.

benread · Post by **benread** » 20:36 Mon 22 Jul 2013

djewesbury wrote:I've just been put up for a club that has a waiting list for full membership of 27 years. I thought I should let everyone know that I may open a few bottles of 2011 before this offline, if I get elected.

Is it this club?

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 20:57 Mon 22 Jul 2013

benread wrote:
djewesbury wrote:I've just been put up for a club that has a waiting list for full membership of 27 years. I thought I should let everyone know that I may open a few bottles of 2011 before this offline, if I get elected.
Is it this club?

Yes. It took them long enough...!

benread · Post by **benread** » 21:00 Mon 22 Jul 2013

djewesbury wrote:
benread wrote:
djewesbury wrote:I've just been put up for a club that has a waiting list for full membership of 27 years. I thought I should let everyone know that I may open a few bottles of 2011 before this offline, if I get elected.
Is it this club?
Yes. It took them long enough...!

Then welcome! I was there yesterday. Thankfully the pavilion is in the shade.

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djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 22:17 Tue 23 Jul 2013

Apologies. The Valkyries have only just released me, hence my lack of communication on emergency issues.. Unfortunately the general non-availability of regulars has encouraged me to rearrange my schedule, such that this crisis will now not be arising. See you all at some other future point...

Post by **DRT** » 07:42 Wed 24 Jul 2013

Are you sure you have posted in the correct thread?

Post by **PhilW** » 08:01 Wed 24 Jul 2013

Well, you can't complain that he hasn't provided sufficient warning of his non-availability

I will also plan to join this fine occasion, bringing V, VC and/or Q.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 08:47 Wed 24 Jul 2013

DRT wrote:Are you sure you have posted in the correct thread?

Oops. Copying and pasting now. Bloody 'smart' phones. Please delete these messages for neatness' sake....

Post by **DRT** » 10:04 Wed 24 Jul 2013

Neatness-shmeetness, no harm in leaving - especially as Phil's post is multi-purpose.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 09:10 Mon 16 Sep 2013

I have just noticed that the first post does not reflect what everyone (eg THRA) has said they'll be bringing. Could this be rectified before the event?

Post by **DRT** » 12:20 Mon 16 Sep 2013

djewesbury wrote:I have just noticed that the first post does not reflect what everyone (eg THRA) has said they'll be bringing. Could this be rectified before the event?

We might struggle to fit that in but will do our best.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 18:35 Tue 17 Sep 2013

I have a suggestion. Could I have a show of hands please?

A number of people have said to me that the 2011s from the smaller producers might be at their peak a little earlier than those from the big boys. May I suggest a first tasting of small producers in 2031, to be compared and contrasted with the whole range again in 2051?

If this seems a good idea could the admins split this thread and could someone book the usual spot for St George's Day 2031?

Post by **jdaw1** » 19:06 Tue 17 Sep 2013

djewesbury wrote:split this thread

This is the thread for a tasting of 2011s on 23rd April 2051. Between now and then, and after then, there might well be other tastings. Verticals of major shippers, and of minor shippers. Horizontals too, of various years perhaps including 2011. Do feel free to take the lead in arranging any of these.

PS: I’m in.

Post by **DRT** » 19:18 Tue 17 Sep 2013

djewesbury wrote:I have a suggestion. Could I have a show of hands please?

A number of people have said to me that the 2011s from the smaller producers might be at their peak a little earlier than those from the big boys. May I suggest a first tasting of small producers in 2031, to be compared and contrasted with the whole range again in 2051?

If this seems a good idea could the admins split this thread and could someone book the usual spot for St George's Day 2031?

St George's Day 2031 should be ok for AHB. I'm in.

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 22:37 Wed 18 Sep 2013

I do have a problem however. For many of the smaller producers I only have one bottle of their 2011 vintage. For which event should I keep them?

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 22:41 Wed 18 Sep 2013

AHB wrote:I do have a problem however. For many of the smaller producers I only have one bottle of their 2011 vintage. For which event should I keep them?

This is exactly why I've been buying them in twos. One is one and all alone and ever more shall be so.

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 22:42 Wed 18 Sep 2013

djewesbury wrote:
AHB wrote:I do have a problem however. For many of the smaller producers I only have one bottle of their 2011 vintage. For which event should I keep them?
This is exactly why I've been buying them in twos. One is one and all alone and ever more shall be so.

That is very profound but doesn't help with my decision in any way.

TLW · Post by **TLW** » 23:31 Wed 18 Sep 2013

Please consider me in, and am happy to contribute a large format of either Fonseca or Taylor.

There is, however, a relatively high chance that my attendance may be of a Jeremy Bentham sort, with reviews stating:

TLW - "Present, but not drinking"

g-man · Post by **g-man** » 14:20 Thu 19 Sep 2013

I landed some GST and can bring it as backup to AHB

Post by **jdaw1** » 14:17 Tue 14 Oct 2014

Unless the Bung Hole changes its tables between now and the big day (thread), we might need a different venue.

Separate to that:

in the thread entitled [url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=82722#p82722]2011 Declarations[/url] jdaw1 wrote:Quarles Harris 2011, as recently delivered to the UK by Glenn E.

foomench · Post by **foomench** » 18:32 Wed 14 Oct 2015

I've got Vieira de Sousa, Morgadio da Calçada (Niepoort), and Barão de Vilar to offer up, although these might be better suited to an earlier tasting. I have others as well, but these were my more unique offerings thus far.

I tried to mark my calendar, but it seems Google Calendar has a bug as it moved my event entry to 2050 despite my best efforts.

Glenn E. · Post by **Glenn E.** » 22:23 Wed 14 Oct 2015

I have all three super cuvees - GST, VVV, VC. I will have to strictly ration, though, as I only have 11 bottles, 2 bottles, and 4 bottles respectively.

Post by **DRT** » 22:36 Wed 14 Oct 2015

Glenn E. wrote:I have all three super cuvees - GST, VVV, VC. I will have to strictly ration, though, as I only have 11 bottles, 2 bottles, and 4 bottles respectively.

That is a good plan. On 24th April 2051 you will only have 10, 1 and 3 bottles remaining. Do not throw them away so recklessly after that otherwise you might run out

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 18:41 Thu 15 Oct 2015

foomench wrote:I've got Vieira de Sousa, Morgadio da Calçada (Niepoort), and Barão de Vilar to offer up, although these might be better suited to an earlier tasting. I have others as well, but these were my more unique offerings thus far.

I tried to mark my calendar, but it seems Google Calendar has a bug as it moved my event entry to 2050 despite my best efforts.

There is an earlier tasting for SQVPs - can't remember the date, I think only 25 years hence...

foomench · Post by **foomench** » 21:41 Thu 15 Oct 2015

djewesbury wrote:
foomench wrote:I've got Vieira de Sousa, Morgadio da Calçada (Niepoort), and Barão de Vilar to offer up, although these might be better suited to an earlier tasting. I have others as well, but these were my more unique offerings thus far.

I tried to mark my calendar, but it seems Google Calendar has a bug as it moved my event entry to 2050 despite my best efforts.
There is an earlier tasting for SQVPs - can't remember the date, I think only 25 years hence...

I'll keep myself on this thread as I can also supply Tayloy, Fonseca, Niepoort, Quevedo, Smith Woodhouse, Vesuvio, Noval, and Vale D. Maria as necessary. (I also purchased Dow, but as I don't possess it yet, I can't promise that.) I'll check on that other tasting in about 20 years to see if a few of these could go to that as well. The Vieira de Sousa and Barão de Vilar aren't SQVPs. I'll have to check the label on the Morgadio. I don't think it is technically a single quinta, but it might be the closest to qualifying. Of course if the intent of the earlier tasting is just to try things that might not go the distance ...

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 21:55 Thu 15 Oct 2015

foomench wrote:
djewesbury wrote:
foomench wrote:I've got Vieira de Sousa, Morgadio da Calçada (Niepoort), and Barão de Vilar to offer up, although these might be better suited to an earlier tasting. I have others as well, but these were my more unique offerings thus far.

I tried to mark my calendar, but it seems Google Calendar has a bug as it moved my event entry to 2050 despite my best efforts.
There is an earlier tasting for SQVPs - can't remember the date, I think only 25 years hence...
I'll keep myself on this thread as I can also supply Tayloy, Fonseca, Niepoort, Quevedo, Smith Woodhouse, Vesuvio, Noval, and Vale D. Maria as necessary. (I also purchased Dow, but as I don't possess it yet, I can't promise that.) I'll check on that other tasting in about 20 years to see if a few of these could go to that as well. The Vieira de Sousa and Barão de Vilar aren't SQVPs. I'll have to check the label on the Morgadio. I don't think it is technically a single quinta, but it might be the closest to qualifying. Of course if the intent of the earlier tasting is just to try things that might not go the distance ...

Sorry, yes, that was me being imprecise - SQVPs, smaller or newer brands - admirably summed up as 'things that might not go the distance' in fact.

Post by **DRT** » 06:01 Fri 16 Oct 2015

DRT wrote:Quinta do Vale Meao (DRT)

Unfortunately, this purchase was not honoured due to over-allocation by the producer. Can someone else please step up?

Doggett · Post by **Doggett** » 06:55 Fri 16 Oct 2015

Count me in...

I can bring a Bottle of GST 2011 and also a magnum of Fonseca 2011. Also for a special treat I have some Waitrose (symington) 2011 I can supply too, if you want to up the quality stakes!
I hope to see you all there.

Post by **PhilW** » 14:38 Fri 16 Oct 2015

djewesbury wrote:I have just noticed that the first post does not reflect what everyone (eg THRA) has said they'll be bringing. Could this be rectified before the event?

I've been waiting for just over two years for Derek to update the first post; I see he (or someone) has done this, but only based on very recent posts.

Post by **jdaw1** » 14:41 Fri 16 Oct 2015

I started, and then had other things to do. It will be resumed.

Perhaps you want to suggest a flighting plan.

Post by **DRT** » 14:48 Fri 16 Oct 2015

PhilW wrote:
djewesbury wrote:I have just noticed that the first post does not reflect what everyone (eg THRA) has said they'll be bringing. Could this be rectified before the event?
I've been waiting for just over two years for Derek to update the first post; I see he (or someone) has done this, but only based on very recent posts.

With 426 months to go I didn't think we were in too much of a rush to finalise the planning

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 15:14 Fri 16 Oct 2015

DRT wrote:
PhilW wrote:
djewesbury wrote:I have just noticed that the first post does not reflect what everyone (eg THRA) has said they'll be bringing. Could this be rectified before the event?
I've been waiting for just over two years for Derek to update the first post; I see he (or someone) has done this, but only based on very recent posts.
With 426 months to go I didn't think we were in too much of a rush to finalise the planning

But if we book the venue now we should be able to get our first choice of room.

Glenn E. · Post by **Glenn E.** » 16:35 Fri 16 Oct 2015

jdaw1 wrote:I started, and then had other things to do. It will be resumed.

Hopefully I will get added once editing has resumed.

In addition to all 3 super cuvees, I also have Vieira de Sousa and Quevedo (6L, 1.5L, 750mm, 375mm). Though the smaller Quevedo bottles are likely to be consumed before 2051.

Post by **flash_uk** » 17:08 Fri 16 Oct 2015

DRT wrote:
DRT wrote:Quinta do Vale Meao (DRT)
Unfortunately, this purchase was not honoured due to over-allocation by the producer. Can someone else please step up?

I have a case of Vale Meao.

Post by **DRT** » 17:10 Fri 16 Oct 2015

flash_uk wrote:
DRT wrote:
DRT wrote:Quinta do Vale Meao (DRT)
Unfortunately, this purchase was not honoured due to over-allocation by the producer. Can someone else please step up?
I have a case of Vale Meao.

Thanks, Mike.

My lovely assistant will add that to the first page along with the other requested updates

Post by **flash_uk** » 17:11 Fri 16 Oct 2015

Also have Taylor, Cockburn, Noval and Ferreira.

Post by **DRT** » 17:19 Fri 16 Oct 2015

AHB wrote:But if we book the venue now we should be able to get our first choice of room.

If we want to ensure we are well taken care off during our tasting, this might be a good venue?

idj123 · Post by **idj123** » 20:05 Mon 19 Oct 2015

I will almost certainly have to send out my daughter as my 'runner' (I briefed her the other day but Peppa Pig was on and so not sure how much she digested) but of those not currently listed I can offer both Burmester and Churchill in Mags and RP in standard.

Post by **jdaw1** » 23:40 Mon 02 Nov 2015

The organiser has been slack about updating the first post, so I have done it, at least in part. And somehow there are nineteen people who want to play. I have cut the reserve list, as is traditional, at 14 people, but it seems, ahem, likely, that there will be spaces for all those currently on the reserve list (which is not the same thing as saying that all will attend).

In the first post somebody wrote:People (all subject to being fit to attend):

DRT;

DJ;

JDAW;

CaliforniaBrad;

ADV;

AHB;

JHG;

THRA;

RLC;

RAYC;

PW;

WPS;

BMHR;

TLW.
Reserves:

PEM;

GEE;

SCD;

MPM;

IDJ.

The list of Ports has not yet been finalised.

idj123 wrote:I will almost certainly have to send out my daughter as my 'runner'

The organiser needs to make a policy decision about this. Your ‘runner’ is a port enthusiast not attending. DRT: pronounce!

Post by **DRT** » 23:51 Mon 02 Nov 2015

jdaw1 wrote:I started, and then had other things to do. It will be resumed.

Then, in an attempt to deny that the problem had been outsourced to him...

jdaw1 wrote:The organiser has been slack about updating the first post, so I have done it

jdaw1 wrote:
idj123 wrote:I will almost certainly have to send out my daughter as my 'runner'
The organiser needs to make a policy decision about this. Your ‘runner’ is a port enthusiast not attending. DRT: pronounce!

Runners and nurses are allowed.

Post by **jdaw1** » 23:52 Mon 02 Nov 2015

DRT wrote:Runners … are allowed.

Greatly reducing the likelihood of the attendance of those currently on the reserve list?

DRT wrote:nurses are allowed.

Phew.