Thu 17th March 2016 - The Fourth Annual Doty Cup

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Re: Thu 17th March 2016 - The Fourth Annual Doty Cup

Post by Chris Doty » 06:37 Wed 24 Feb 2016

Not to mislead your expectations, but if you had, say, attended the three prior Doty Cups, you would have enjoyed...

1945 Taylor (no slouch!)
N/A Taylor (don't know the exact year, but 'old as poop') - oi! does your program auto correct 'poop' to 'poop' ?!
20Y(t) Niepoort bottled 1975
20Y(t) Niepoort bottled 2008
1957 Fonseca Val de Mendiz, OportO bottled 1960 (good luck seeing this one again!)
1967 Quinta do Noval
1987 Quinta do Noval
1987 Quinta do Noval Nacional
1985 Dow (magnum)
1980 Dow (magnum)
1988 Chave Hermitage Blanc
1990 Beaucastel Châteauneuf-du-Pape Roussanne Vieilles Vignes
1990 Beaucastel Châteauneuf-du-Pape Rouge
1993 Domaine Alain Michelot NSG 1er Les Vaucrains
1993 Domaine Georges Chicotot NSG 1er Les Vaucrains
1985 Andre Mussy Beaune 1er Epenottes
1985 Andre Mussy Beaune 1er Marconnets
1993 Marquis D’Angerville 1er Clos des Ducs
1993 Marquis D’Angerville 1er Champans
1985 Tertre Roteboeuf
1989 Chapoutier Monnier Sizeranne
1970 Fonseca
1966 Fonseca
1985 Guigal Hermitage
1985 Pine Ridge Cabernet Sauvignon
1985 Krug
1985 Dom Perignon
1983 Gruaud Larose
1988 Gruaud Larose
1985 Henri Gouges 1er "les Pruliers"
1985 Aleth Girardin "Clos des Mouches" (rouge)
1985 Fontalloro
1985 Casanova di Neri Brunello di Montalcino
2011 Quevedo

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Re: Thu 17th March 2016 - The Fourth Annual Doty Cup

Post by benread » 07:57 Wed 24 Feb 2016

Tease. I am home alone that week with Mrs R in France (Cannes) 'working'. I can't even declare an interest in attending. I hereby declare that I shall join you in spirit in Reigate. 5 minutes talking to myself, red meat and a surprise from the cellar!


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Re: Thu 17th March 2016 - The Fourth Annual Doty Cup

Post by jdaw1 » 10:57 Wed 24 Feb 2016

[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=98383#p98383]Here[/url] Chris Doty wrote:is this problem the same across all 345+ languages found on the subcontinent? Can't do Hindi, Kanada, tamil, etc. etc. ?
Probably. Not tested.
Chris Doty wrote:That would seem like a pretty huge limitation in your otherwise very malleable and impressive software...
Maybe. But fixing it would be a huge effort, for little gain. India is not a country of Port drinkers, nor a good place to store Port. The greater loss is the inability to handle Japanese. Indeed, for about eight years the manual has said:
JDAW, in [url=http://www.jdawiseman.com/papers/placemat/placemat.html#fonts]the manual[/url], wrote:The program was designed for left-to-right script, and the alphabets successfully used have been Roman (mostly), Greek (occasionally), and Cyrillic (rarely). Users with knowledge of PostScript who are able to assist with testing in other scripts—including right-to-left—are invited to contact the the author, perhaps after reading this request for assistance rendering “泉十段”.

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Re: Thu 17th March 2016 - The Fourth Annual Doty Cup

Post by jdaw1 » 10:57 Wed 24 Feb 2016

Chris Doty wrote:If we were going to do something biblical, I would ask you to consult the Jerusalem Bible, rather than the KJ (for obvious reasons)...
Reason not obvious. And the same names aren’t two-letter in TJB. So something else will be chosen.

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Re: Thu 17th March 2016 - The Fourth Annual Doty Cup

Post by Chris Doty » 15:09 Wed 24 Feb 2016

jdaw1 wrote:Reason not obvious
This may be the first time I have overrated your intelligence. Surely even a Wiseman would be able to understand a pretty fundamental distinction between the two texts...

Anyway, we are making too complex an ordeal out of this. Just number 1-12 then and let's be done.

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Re: Thu 17th March 2016 - The Fourth Annual Doty Cup

Post by jdaw1 » 01:24 Thu 25 Feb 2016

Chris Doty wrote:This may be the first time I have overrated your intelligence. Surely even a Wiseman would be able to understand a pretty fundamental distinction between the two texts...
If I had seen — instead of, carelessly, missing — the signs of piety, devotion, and fealty to Rome, then indeed the reason would have been obvious to me. I apologise for my obliviousness.
Chris Doty wrote:Anyway, we are making too complex an ordeal out of this. Just number 1-12 then and let's be done.
Chris Doty choosing the simple unimaginative low-effort path? You are not Chris Doty, you are an impostor who has stolen his :tpf: login password.

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Re: Thu 17th March 2016 - The Fourth Annual Doty Cup

Post by Chris Doty » 03:49 Thu 25 Feb 2016

jdaw1 wrote:If I had seen — instead of, carelessly, missing — the signs of piety, devotion, and fealty to Rome, then indeed the reason would have been obvious to me. I apologise for my obliviousness.
No worries. I understand that although I may have been blessed to receive 5 of the 7 Sacraments of the Catholic Church (the last one having been...something of a doozy), I grant that none of these has been administered at the Bung Hole.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/10/fashi ... .html?_r=0
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/lohud/ ... =157233060
http://tinyurl.com/zwzsgfm

“I was fascinated by the mind-stretching that occurred as part of my Jesuit education,” said Doty, who worked the night shift at the incinerator on West 56th Street during the height of the Great Depression to pay for his Fordham tuition. “I later went to Columbia to get a master’s degree, but I never got the same mind-stretching experience that I’d gotten at Fordham.”
...
“If I did not have the Catholic faith and I wanted to invent a faith for myself, what would I do? I think I would reinvent the Catholic faith. It may sound foolish, but I think of a loving God, a forgiving God. How can you beat that?”

Yeah...you could say he left an impression on me...
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Chris Doty wrote:Anyway, we are making too complex an ordeal out of this. Just number 1-12 then and let's be done.
Chris Doty choosing the simple unimaginative low-effort path? You are not Chris Doty, you are an impostor who has stolen his :tpf: login password.

:shock:
ok cheech, show me something?

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Re: Thu 17th March 2016 - The Fourth Annual Doty Cup

Post by jdaw1 » 10:49 Thu 25 Feb 2016

The draft of the placemats (for which the new parameters ShapesPrintQuickerDistillSlower and BackgroundTextsDecanterLabels have been added to the software).
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Re: Thu 17th March 2016 - The Fourth Annual Doty Cup

Post by Chris Doty » 03:27 Fri 26 Feb 2016

jdaw1 wrote:India is not a country of Port drinkers...The greater loss is the inability to handle Japanese.

I see. Of course you are your own man, and I defer to your judgment with respect to the evolution of your program, but I would like to note for the record that the population of Japan is ~120m, whereas India's population is ~1.2B.....choose wisely....

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Re: Thu 17th March 2016 - The Fourth Annual Doty Cup

Post by Chris Doty » 03:30 Fri 26 Feb 2016

jdaw1 wrote:The draft of the placemats.
Ahh - Astrology ! Pop-Pop would be thrilled!

So that takes care of placemats -
AHB has been silent - any contact with the Square? K.P.? etc?

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Re: Thu 17th March 2016 - The Fourth Annual Doty Cup

Post by jdaw1 » 10:42 Fri 26 Feb 2016

jdaw1 wrote:The greater loss is the inability to handle Japanese.
Chris Doty wrote:I see. Of course you are your own man, and I defer to your judgment with respect to the evolution of your program, but I would like to note for the record that the population of Japan is ~120m, whereas India's population is ~1.2B.....choose wisely....
Ahh, a deep mis-understanding. The target user of the software is me. Everybody else is a guest — a welcome guest, for whom improvements can be made, but not the core user. And there is no native Indian alcohol that I like — perhaps a failing of mine — whereas I do like Sake. Hence the noting of Japanese.

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Re: Thu 17th March 2016 - The Fourth Annual Doty Cup

Post by jdaw1 » 12:23 Fri 26 Feb 2016

jdaw1 wrote:The draft of the placemats.
Chris Doty wrote:Ahh - Astrology ! Pop-Pop would be thrilled!
+ Stars. A good-quality printer would be a boon.

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Re: Thu 17th March 2016 - The Fourth Annual Doty Cup

Post by Chris Doty » 18:46 Fri 26 Feb 2016

jdaw1 wrote:
jdaw1 wrote:Ahh
agreed

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Re: Thu 17th March 2016 - The Fourth Annual Doty Cup

Post by AHB » 00:26 Sun 28 Feb 2016

Chris Doty wrote:
jdaw1 wrote:The draft of the placemats.
Ahh - Astrology ! Pop-Pop would be thrilled!

So that takes care of placemats -
AHB has been silent - any contact with the Square? K.P.? etc?
I've been busy! Got to earn the port vouchers to be able to attend events like this.

Yes the Cup has been engraved. I'll attempt to remember to take a photo and post tomorrow.

No I have not spoken to the Square, I will do so during the week.

I don't have Kevin Pietersen's contact details but if you pass them on to me I will invite him to attend - that might even persuade Ben to book a baby-sitter!
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Re: Thu 17th March 2016 - The Fourth Annual Doty Cup

Post by AHB » 20:55 Sun 28 Feb 2016

Here's the photo of the cup, engraved with the names of the first three winners.
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Re: Thu 17th March 2016 - The Fourth Annual Doty Cup

Post by Chris Doty » 05:54 Mon 29 Feb 2016

AHB wrote:Here's the photo of the cup, engraved with the names of the first three winners.
TPF_Cup.JPG
AHB - if the development of the film would be not such an extravagant expense, would it be possible to add a shot of just the names to properly honor your fellow champions?

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Post by jdaw1 » 14:26 Tue 01 Mar 2016

jdaw1 wrote:It has always been excellent; but with only five places available it would be remiss of me to grab one. Please have me as first reserve.
If there is still an empty seat, please could I be promoted from ‘Reserve’ to ‘Attendee’?

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Re: Thu 17th March 2016 - The Fourth Annual Doty Cup

Post by Chris Doty » 18:18 Tue 01 Mar 2016

jdaw1 wrote:If there is still an empty seat, ...
you had me at 'hello' - welcome back!

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Re: Thu 17th March 2016 - The Fourth Annual Doty Cup

Post by jdaw1 » 21:50 Tue 01 Mar 2016

The names on the placemats are those listed in the first post, which are of inconsistent form.
jdaw1 wrote:Image

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Re: Thu 17th March 2016 - The Fourth Annual Doty Cup

Post by Chris Doty » 08:00 Sat 05 Mar 2016

Chris Doty wrote:Good work, chaps. So far we have

1.) King
2.) Bridge
3.) WS1
4.) 420Dog
5.) My friend KP
6.) My friend AE
7.) My friend (and prior challenger) AB
8.) Jdaw
9.)
10.)
11.)
12.)

Reserves
1.)
2.)
3.)

Leaving four spots and excessive interest...

Get while hot or wait for 2017 (Insha'Allah)

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Re: Thu 17th March 2016 - The Fourth Annual Doty Cup

Post by jdaw1 » 00:21 Sun 06 Mar 2016

Unless Mr Doty objects I will speak about Bright and Dark, then Dark (but also Bright) and Bright, then Very Bright and Dark. (Edited for new title.)

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Re: Thu 17th March 2016 - The Fourth Annual Doty Cup

Post by benread » 19:56 Tue 08 Mar 2016

AHB wrote:I don't have Kevin Pietersen's contact details but if you pass them on to me I will invite him to attend - that might even persuade Ben to book a baby-sitter!
Regrettably, with our without KP I can't get there. Good luck!
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Re: Thu 17th March 2016 - The Fourth Annual Doty Cup

Post by flash_uk » 00:08 Wed 09 Mar 2016

I'm listed as attending in the first post, but can't confirm yet. Have a work commitment that I am trying to wriggle from...

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Re: Thu 17th March 2016 - The Fourth Annual Doty Cup

Post by Chris Doty » 03:31 Wed 09 Mar 2016

jdaw1 wrote: Bright and Dark, then Dark (but also Bright) and Bright, then Very Bright and Dark. (Edited for new title.)
New title > old title

sounds fabulous! :whoop:

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Re: Thu 17th March 2016 - The Fourth Annual Doty Cup

Post by Chris Doty » 06:09 Mon 14 Mar 2016

Leaving tomorrow (via Dubai)! Can't wait to catch up soon!


1.) King
2.) Bridge
3.) WS1
4.) 420Dog
5.) My friend KP
6.) My friend AE
7.) Jdaw
8.)
9.)
10.)

Reserves
1.)
2.)
3.)

Leaving three spots for all you procrastinators out there!

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