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Tom’s Birthday 1960 Horizontal, Tue 02 June 2020

Posted: 18:40 Thu 14 Nov 2019
by uncle tom
This post to hold arrangements as and when agreed.

When: 6½pm, Tuesday 2nd June 2020.

Where: The Red Room in The Boot & FloggerGoogleStreetMap.co.uk///cafe.humid.palaceBing.

Theme: 1960 horizontal, sighted.

Who:
  1. Johnny Symington;
  2. Christian Seely (provisional);
  3. Dirk Niepoort;
  4. THRA;
  5. JDAW;
  6. DRT;
  7. AHB;
  8. CMAG;
  9. PW;
  10. MC;
  11. MPM;
  12. SCD;
  13. CPR;
  14. IDJ.
Reserves:
  • GEAG;
  • DRL (who has Croft, Noval, and Offley);
  • TC;
  • WPS;
  • JMK (who has Cálem, Cockburn, Dow, Taylor, and Warre).
Bottles of 1960 Vintage Port available:
  1. Butler Nephew (AHB; THRA);
  2. Cálem (THRA);
  3. Cockburn (DRT; THRA);
  4. Croft (THRA; CPR; IDJ);
  5. Delaforce (THRA);
  6. Dow (DRT; THRA; CPR; IDJ);
  7. Ferreira (AHB; THRA);
  8. Fonseca (JDAW; THRA; CPR);
  9. Gonzalez Byass (THRA);
  10. Graham (THRA);
  11. Martinez (THRA; IDJ);
  12. Messias (THRA);
  13. Niepoort (THRA);
  14. Noval (AHB; CPR; IDJ; THRA; DRT, for whom ‘believed’);
  15. Offley Boa Vista (THRA);
  16. Real Companhia Velha (THRA);
  17. Rebello Valente (THRA; IDJ);
  18. de la Rosa (AHB);
  19. Sandeman (DRT; THRA; SCD);
  20. Smith Woodhouse (THRA);
  21. Sibio (AHB; THRA);
  22. Taylor (THRA; AHB, for whom ‘believed’).
  23. Warre (THRA; CPR);
(Obvious missing shippers: Burmester; Feuerheerd; Gould Campbell; Kopke; Krohn; Mackenzie; Morgan; Quarles Harris; Ramos Pinto; Tuke Holdsworth.)


◊ Link to food order will go here. ◊

◊ Link to draft of placemats will go here and here. ◊

This post originally by jdaw1; its author subsequently changed to uncle tom.

Tom’s Birthday 1960 Horizontal, Tue 02 June 2020

Posted: 18:40 Thu 14 Nov 2019
by jdaw1
Tom’s vintage year is 1960. Indeed, some might recall that we marked his fiftieth with a 1960 horizontal. And a decade later he has requested the same theme again.

Tuesday 2nd June 2020 is the date for this horizontal, set after consultation with Tom and industry guests.

The organiser of this tasting is THRA himself, for whom JDAW will sometimes act as secretary. JDAW emphasises that he is not the organiser.

Port Vintages has definite full declarations of 1960 by all of the thirty shippers with a chapter: B, BN, Cá, Ck, Cr, Df, D, Fr, Fd, F, GB, GC, G, K, Kr, Mk, Mz, Mg, Ni, N, O, QH, RP, RV, RO, S, SW, T, TH, W; and of course there were also declarations by some smaller producers.

Some seats are pre-booked.

Tom’s Birthday 1960 Horizontal, Tue 02 June 2020

Posted: 18:42 Thu 14 Nov 2019
by DRT
Yes please.

I have Cockburn, Dow, Sandeman and (believed (Noval)

Tom’s Birthday 1960 Horizontal, Tue 02 June 2020

Posted: 18:45 Thu 14 Nov 2019
by Alex Bridgeman
I'm in, and CMAG has said he is too.

I have a choice of Butler Nephew, de la Rosa, Ferreira, (known to be) Noval, Sibio and (believed to be) Taylor. Happy to contribute one or two from that list.

Tom’s Birthday 1960 Horizontal, Tue 02 June 2020

Posted: 18:53 Thu 14 Nov 2019
by Christopher
Yes please

Tom’s Birthday 1960 Horizontal, Tue 02 June 2020

Posted: 19:07 Thu 14 Nov 2019
by M.Charlton
Yes please.

Re: Tom’s Birthday 1960 Horizontal, Tue 02 June 2020

Posted: 19:44 Thu 14 Nov 2019
by PhilW
I'm in.

Re: Tom’s birthday 1960 Horizontal, Tue 02 June 2020

Posted: 19:44 Thu 14 Nov 2019
by uncle tom
I have:

Butler Nephew
Calem
Cockburn
Croft
Delaforce
Dow
Ferreira
Fonseca
Gonzalez Byass
Graham
Martinez
Messias
Niepoort
Offley Boa Vista
Real Companhia Velha
Rebello Valente
Sandeman
Sibio
Smith Woodhouse
Taylor
Warre

- How many bottles do we want on the table.?

Re: Tom’s Birthday 1960 Horizontal, Tue 02 June 2020

Posted: 20:10 Thu 14 Nov 2019
by flash_uk
Yes please. Might be out of 1960, will check. Plenty of time to fix that though :D

Re: Tom’s Birthday 1960 Horizontal, Tue 02 June 2020

Posted: 20:34 Thu 14 Nov 2019
by Doggett
Yes please... I have a Sandeman ready for this one.

Edit: if DRT is not already sharing his... in which case I would hope to adopt please.

Re: Tom’s Birthday 1960 Horizontal, Tue 02 June 2020

Posted: 21:18 Thu 14 Nov 2019
by CPR 1
Yes please. I can offer

Dow, Warre, Fonseca, Noval or Croft

Re: Tom’s Birthday 1960 Horizontal, Tue 02 June 2020

Posted: 21:35 Thu 14 Nov 2019
by idj123
And me please!

Re: Tom’s Birthday 1960 Horizontal, Tue 02 June 2020

Posted: 21:44 Thu 14 Nov 2019
by jdaw1
At which this tasting is full. Anybody else to go on a waitlist.

Those who haven’t, please post what you have. (Yes, I know.)

Re: Tom’s birthday 1960 Horizontal, Tue 02 June 2020

Posted: 23:16 Thu 14 Nov 2019
by jdaw1
uncle tom wrote: 19:44 Thu 14 Nov 2019How many bottles do we want on the table.?
This is a serious question worthy of being answered.

There will be fourteen of us, likely all full-capacity drinkers, and 14 × 1¼ = 17½. Table space limits us to 1×A3 + 1×A4, so to about 15 + 6 = 21 glasses. Would it be wrong to have between 18 and 20?

Re: Tom’s Birthday 1960 Horizontal, Tue 02 June 2020

Posted: 23:28 Thu 14 Nov 2019
by winesecretary
Tom and I share a birthday (if not a birth date). Please may I go on the reserve list? I have at the moment only Warre, but since I am in acquisition phase still, there will be others by then.

Re: Tom’s Birthday 1960 Horizontal, Tue 02 June 2020

Posted: 00:05 Fri 15 Nov 2019
by DaveRL
Reserve list please. I'll check what I have.

Re: Tom’s Birthday 1960 Horizontal, Tue 02 June 2020

Posted: 00:07 Fri 15 Nov 2019
by DaveRL
Spread sheet indicates Croft, Noval and Offley.

Re: Tom’s Birthday 1960 Horizontal, Tue 02 June 2020

Posted: 07:51 Fri 15 Nov 2019
by forest26
Yes please - wow places went quick

Re: Tom’s Birthday 1960 Horizontal, Tue 02 June 2020

Posted: 08:02 Fri 15 Nov 2019
by WS1
Hi,

Despite unlikely to succeed can you please put me on the waiting list as well.

Thanks
WS1

Re: Tom’s Birthday 1960 Horizontal, Tue 02 June 2020

Posted: 10:41 Fri 15 Nov 2019
by uncle tom
There will be fourteen of us, likely all full-capacity drinkers, and 14 × 1¼ = 17½. Table space limits us to 1×A3 + 1×A4, so to about 15 + 6 = 21 glasses. Would it be wrong to have between 18 and 20?
So which shippers shall we drop from my list?

Losing Messias, RCV and Sibio would leave 18

Re: Tom’s Birthday 1960 Horizontal, Tue 02 June 2020

Posted: 11:30 Fri 15 Nov 2019
by jdaw1
uncle tom wrote: 10:41 Fri 15 Nov 2019
There will be fourteen of us, likely all full-capacity drinkers, and 14 × 1¼ = 17½. Table space limits us to 1×A3 + 1×A4, so to about 15 + 6 = 21 glasses. Would it be wrong to have between 18 and 20?
So which shippers shall we drop from my list?

Losing Messias, RCV and Sibio would leave 18
Would you keep others’ Noval and de la Rosa?

Re: Tom’s Birthday 1960 Horizontal, Tue 02 June 2020

Posted: 13:00 Fri 15 Nov 2019
by CPR 1
jdaw1 wrote: 11:30 Fri 15 Nov 2019
uncle tom wrote: 10:41 Fri 15 Nov 2019
There will be fourteen of us, likely all full-capacity drinkers, and 14 × 1¼ = 17½. Table space limits us to 1×A3 + 1×A4, so to about 15 + 6 = 21 glasses. Would it be wrong to have between 18 and 20?
So which shippers shall we drop from my list?

Losing Messias, RCV and Sibio would leave 18
Would you keep others’ Noval and de la Rosa?
I would be keen to keep Noval, de la Rosa is good thus if we have it great, but those at the RV tasting next week will also get to try it there

Re: Tom’s Birthday 1960 Horizontal, Tue 02 June 2020

Posted: 21:17 Fri 15 Nov 2019
by idj123
Personally, given that it's 60 @ 60 @ 60 and that there are bound to be one or two faulty bottles, I think we should go for the maximum number of bottles that glasses space affords ie 21. BTW, where's the NN (I see it was present last time around)?

I have Cr, N, RV, D and Mz (I believe).

Re: Tom’s Birthday 1960 Horizontal, Tue 02 June 2020

Posted: 21:33 Fri 15 Nov 2019
by flash_uk
idj123 wrote: 21:17 Fri 15 Nov 2019 it's 60 @ 60 @ 60
It took me a while...

Re: Tom’s Birthday 1960 Horizontal, Tue 02 June 2020

Posted: 23:10 Fri 15 Nov 2019
by jdaw1
idj123 wrote: 21:17 Fri 15 Nov 2019where's the NN (I see it was present last time around)?
But:
jdaw1 wrote: 19:00 Tue 25 May 2010NN60: very imperfect.
Chris Doty wrote: 12:37 Mon 07 Jun 2010VERY dissapointing.
AHB wrote: 10:13 Sun 27 Jun 2010the regular Noval 1960 was better than this bottle
DRT wrote: 17:13 Thu 14 Oct 2010Thinner than the regular Noval.
So likely not worth the large cost.

Of course, if you wish to donate a NN60, then we’d accept.