'Bring a port not noted on the tasting notes index as at 1 Feb 2020' - Thursday 12th November 2020, B&F

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Post by winesecretary » 19:39 Mon 03 Feb 2020

TPF's tasting notes list is a remarkable and comprehensive document. I have found it of inestimable value, in particular in deciding whether or not to take a punt on a mixed lot at auction, but it is also useful as a tool of wider analysis simply because of its sheer size.

Even so I have accumulated a number of bottles of port for which there is no tasting note on the tasting notes index as at 1 February 2020 (I have a snapshot of the index as at that date, so if you ask me I can confirm whether or not a tasting note for a wine had been filed (and indexed to) as at that date). At the last count, 7, including VPs from 1985, 1989, and 2000 (2), a 2000 Colheita, and LBVs from 2012 (2). Talking to others at a couple of recent tastings (i) it is clear that others have also accumulated odd bottles of such wines; (ii) there was some enthusiasm for sharing such wines with others on this forum.

I should emphasise that this is an unserious tasting. There is a significant possibility that quite a lot of the wines will not be very good- that there's sometimes a reason why we haven't seen notes on them - I am sure that is the case with at least some of those I have. But, we might discover some gems, or at least some tolerable minor wines.

Choosing to attend, I propose, includes undertaking to post a tasting note, on at least 7 of the ports tasted, within 14 days of the tasting (otherwise those not attending don't get to benefit from our innocent fun).

I propose we do this sighted but, to maintain the surprise factor until the day, without advance warning to the group of specifically what is being brought. To make that workable please PM me details of what you plan to bring so I can de-dupe if need be. I will print placemats etc., with the expert assistance of jdaw1 in their preparation.

I plan to bring a 1989. I have up to six other wines available for adoption, so please do say if you would like to adopt when signing up.

Red Room at the Boot and Flogger has been booked for Thursday 12th November. 1800 for 1830.

1. GEAG
2. HTWH
3. flash_uk
4. CPR1
5. forest26
6. idj123
7. jdaw1
8. nac
9. AHB
10. ACMS (AHB guest)
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Post by hadge » 19:48 Mon 03 Feb 2020

yes please sounds fun

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Post by flash_uk » 19:55 Mon 03 Feb 2020

Sounds good. Count me in!

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Post by CPR 1 » 20:03 Mon 03 Feb 2020

Yes please

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Post by forest26 » 20:07 Mon 03 Feb 2020

Yes please - need to be quick these days

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Post by idj123 » 20:41 Mon 03 Feb 2020

Yes please for this as well!

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Post by jdaw1 » 20:56 Mon 03 Feb 2020

Yes please, though I am going to struggle.

Might it be fairer to make the theme “Bring a Port for which there isn’t, as of 01 Sept 2020, a tasting note on the tasting notes list”?

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Post by nac » 21:18 Mon 03 Feb 2020

Yes please.

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Post by winesecretary » 20:05 Tue 04 Feb 2020

@ jdaw1- yes, absolutely, your suggestion for theme-finessing by reference to a date is an admirable one. It might even be better if we set it to '1 Feb 2020' in case AHB catches up on his back-log in the interim. I will implement the change once I get to a keyboard.

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Post by nac » 20:50 Tue 04 Feb 2020

Was going to bring Hooper's 85 - about which was incorrectly sure there wouldn't be a note...

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Post by CPR 1 » 21:36 Tue 04 Feb 2020

nac wrote:
20:50 Tue 04 Feb 2020
Was going to bring Hooper's 85 - about which was incorrectly sure there wouldn't be a note...
Funny I was thinking exactly the same.

Thus now on plan B. Good fun trying to work out which bottles qualify for this tasting, at least the fixed starting points makes this possible.

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Post by jdaw1 » 23:48 Tue 04 Feb 2020

I do hope somebody brings a Dow 1878.

Alas my stocks have run dry — at least in 1⅓-pint format.

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Post by winesecretary » 23:59 Tue 04 Feb 2020

I deleted a line from the draft of the first post about encouraging people to leave the Dow 1878 at home on this occasion...

Seriously though, I was not intending this as a time for 'bucket list' ports. This is for the 'I'm slightly surprised that there's been no note on...' or 'I think this might be a duffer but...'

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Post by jdaw1 » 00:19 Wed 05 Feb 2020

jdaw1 wrote:
20:56 Mon 03 Feb 2020
though I am going to struggle.
Actually, I have one. Hurray! Though there is a risk that it will appear before November.

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Post by AHB » 21:39 Wed 05 Feb 2020

Yes please. I’d like to be there provided I can find something suitable.
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Post by jdaw1 » 00:02 Sat 08 Feb 2020

Forgot to say: great theme. I thoroughly approve.

Over multiple repeats, however, this theme will become more difficult.

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Post by winesecretary » 17:19 Mon 10 Feb 2020

If, after multiple repeats, this becomes more difficult, then we can move on to alternative but related themes such as 'ports for which there is a unicorn note' or possibly 'ports where the last note is five years old or more'...

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Post by jdaw1 » 21:15 Mon 10 Feb 2020

winesecretary wrote:
17:19 Mon 10 Feb 2020
If, after multiple repeats, this becomes more difficult, then we can move on to alternative but related themes such as 'ports for which there is a unicorn note' or possibly 'ports where the last note is five years old or more'...
Genius.

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Post by AHB » 17:58 Tue 11 Feb 2020

There is a slight flaw in the theme. Unless someone downloads a complete list of all the tasting notes that were on TPF on 1 Feb 2020, we won't know what was there (admitedly we will if we undertake a great deal of painstakingly detailed research, which most won't do). How about a slight variation of "...not on the Tasting Note Index once Derek does the recently requested update..."?
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Post by nac » 07:12 Wed 12 Feb 2020

AHB wrote:
17:58 Tue 11 Feb 2020
There is a slight flaw in the theme. Unless someone downloads a complete list of all the tasting notes that were on TPF on 1 Feb 2020, we won't know what was there (admitedly we will if we undertake a great deal of painstakingly detailed research, which most won't do). How about a slight variation of "...not on the Tasting Note Index once Derek does the recently requested update..."?

A possible, simple, solution? Attendees let George know (via PM) the wine they intend to bring. He then checks against the database at that moment. If the wine isn't in the database at that moment he accepts it as being within scope.

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Post by winesecretary » 13:41 Wed 12 Feb 2020

To confirm- for the purposes of planning this tasting I have taken a snapshot of the tasting notes index (but not the tasting notes) as at 01/02/20. I have updated the initial post to make that clear.

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Post by AHB » 20:43 Fri 14 Feb 2020

winesecretary wrote:
13:41 Wed 12 Feb 2020
To confirm- for the purposes of planning this tasting I have taken a snapshot of the tasting notes index (but not the tasting notes) as at 01/02/20. I have updated the initial post to make that clear.
Perfect, with plenty of clarity.
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Post by AHB » 13:11 Sat 15 Feb 2020

A question for the organiser: would a Crusted Port bottled in a year for which there is no tasting note qualify?
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Post by winesecretary » 14:34 Sat 15 Feb 2020

@ AHB - yes, absolutely, since it would deserve its own note on the tasting notes list. Crusted ports can be jolly fun; I have fond memories of a Taylor's Crusted Bottled 1973 (drunk the best part of a decade ago) with a lovely figgy palate. I am pleased to see the re-emergence of the genre since the millennium, because in the 80s and 90s it was really only Graham who stuck with it.

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Post by AHB » 16:18 Sat 15 Feb 2020

Excellent; thank you. I am working through my options at the moment and having a lot of fun doing so.
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