1980 Horizontal, Tuesday 24th November, B&F

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1980 Horizontal, Tuesday 24th November, B&F

Post by winesecretary » 19:40 Mon 03 Feb 2020

2020 shall feature an assessment of the 1980 vintage at forty.

Red Room at the Boot and Flogger has been booked for Tuesday 24th November. 1800 for 1830.

1. GEAG (NN) [Royal Oporto]
2. flash_uk (Gould Campbell)
3. CPR1 (Sandeman)
4. Doggett (Dow)
5. forest26 (Barros) [Kopke, Fonseca]
6. idj123 (Graham)
7. jdaw1 (Taylor)
8. nac (adopting Warre from idj123)
9. M.Charlton (Burmester)
10. HTWH (adopting Niepoort from CPR1)
11. DaveRL (Offley Boa Vista)
12. CMAG (adopting Quarles Harris from nac)
13. akzy (adopting Smith Woodhouse from DaveRL)
14. AHB (Croft Roeda)

Shippers and who has:

(i) Dow (Doggett, forest26, CMAG, AHB, DaveRL, GEAG)
(ii) Graham (idj123, GEAG, flash_uk, AHB, DaveRL)
(iii) Royal Oporto (GEAG)
(iv) Gould Campbell (flash_uk, forest26, AHB, DaveRL (idj123 mag))
(v) Croft Roeda (AHB, flash_uk, forest26, GEAG)
(vi) Barros (forest26)
(vii) Burmester (M.Charlton, forest26)
(viii) Kopke (forest26)
(ix) Warre (idj123, CPR 1, forest26, AHB, DaveRL)
(x) Taylor (jdaw1, AHB, CPR 1, forest26)
(xi) Fonseca (forest26, idj123)
(xii) Niepoort (forest26, CPR 1)
(xiii) Smith Woodhouse (forest26, idj123, DaveRL)
(xiv) Sandeman (CPR 1)
(xv) Quarles Harris (nac, (idj123 mag))
(xvi) Noval Nacional (GEAG)
(xvii) Offley Boa Vista (DaveRL)

Additional possibilities:

(i) Borges
(ii) Calem Foz
(iii) Ferreira
(iv) Ramos Pinto

Considered as possibilities and for reasons set out put to one side:

(i) BBR (as it is Warre)
(ii) Delaforce Corte (poorly reported)
(iii) Hutchison (poorly reported)
(iv) Real Vinicola (no data)
(v) Real Companhia Velha (no data)
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Re: 1980 Horizontal, Tuesday 24th November, B&F

Post by flash_uk » 19:57 Mon 03 Feb 2020

Yes please. I have:
CrR
GC
G

Also considering getting some W and D.

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Re: 1980 Horizontal, Tuesday 24th November, B&F

Post by CPR 1 » 20:00 Mon 03 Feb 2020

Yes please

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Re: 1980 Horizontal, Tuesday 24th November, B&F

Post by Doggett » 20:01 Mon 03 Feb 2020

Yes please... I have a Dow to offer

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Re: 1980 Horizontal, Tuesday 24th November, B&F

Post by forest26 » 20:06 Mon 03 Feb 2020

Yes please

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Re: 1980 Horizontal, Tuesday 24th November, B&F

Post by idj123 » 20:40 Mon 03 Feb 2020

Yes please.

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Re: 1980 Horizontal, Tuesday 24th November, B&F

Post by jdaw1 » 20:54 Mon 03 Feb 2020

Yes please.

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Re: 1980 Horizontal, Tuesday 24th November, B&F

Post by jdaw1 » 21:01 Mon 03 Feb 2020

TC: did you mean to accept twice? If not, may I — or you — delete one of the duplicates?

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Re: 1980 Horizontal, Tuesday 24th November, B&F

Post by nac » 21:16 Mon 03 Feb 2020

Yes please. Will have to check what I've got.

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Re: 1980 Horizontal, Tuesday 24th November, B&F

Post by forest26 » 21:23 Mon 03 Feb 2020

Yes - please delete the duplicate.

I have

Barros
Burmester
Croft Roeda
Kopke
Warre
Dow
Taylor
Fonseca
Niepoort
SW
GC

Let me know what you need (soonish) and I will put them aside.

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Re: 1980 Horizontal, Tuesday 24th November, B&F

Post by M.Charlton » 21:30 Mon 03 Feb 2020

Yes please.

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Re: 1980 Horizontal, Tuesday 24th November, B&F

Post by hadge » 21:53 Mon 03 Feb 2020

yes please

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Re: 1980 Horizontal, Tuesday 24th November, B&F

Post by DaveRL » 22:30 Mon 03 Feb 2020

Yes please

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Re: 1980 Horizontal, Tuesday 24th November, B&F

Post by Christopher » 22:36 Mon 03 Feb 2020

Yes please

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Re: 1980 Horizontal, Tuesday 24th November, B&F

Post by CPR 1 » 21:30 Tue 04 Feb 2020

I can offer Sandeman, Niepoort, Taylor, Warre and BBR (Warre)

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Re: 1980 Horizontal, Tuesday 24th November, B&F

Post by winesecretary » 19:49 Wed 05 Feb 2020

@forest26 - That is a remarkably extensive list of 1980s. You can, I think, reasonably assume that where someone else has the port then you won't be called upon to provide it for adoption. That still might, as at instant date, leave you supplying Barros, Burmester, Kopke, Fonseca, and Smith Woodhouse but the likelihood is we will chip that list down over the next nine months. Thank you!
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Re: 1980 Horizontal, Tuesday 24th November, B&F

Post by akzy » 19:54 Wed 05 Feb 2020

Yes please.

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Re: 1980 Horizontal, Tuesday 24th November, B&F

Post by AHB » 21:54 Wed 05 Feb 2020

Yes please. I’ll check what I have later.
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Re: 1980 Horizontal, Tuesday 24th November, B&F

Post by winesecretary » 22:28 Wed 05 Feb 2020

And we're full. Given the length of time before the event, we can list a number of reserves.

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Re: 1980 Horizontal, Tuesday 24th November, B&F

Post by nac » 22:57 Wed 05 Feb 2020

nac wrote:
21:16 Mon 03 Feb 2020
Yes please. Will have to check what I've got.
Checked and have nothing - pretty sure there was in the past...

Plans afoot for D & W acquisition but suspect that won't help much, so will probably need to adopt.

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Re: 1980 Horizontal, Tuesday 24th November, B&F

Post by idj123 » 15:22 Fri 07 Feb 2020

I have F, G, W, SW, GC (mag) and QH (mag).

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Re: 1980 Horizontal, Tuesday 24th November, B&F

Post by Christopher » 22:01 Sun 09 Feb 2020

I have Dow and can try and purchase something missing if needed

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Re: 1980 Horizontal, Tuesday 24th November, B&F

Post by winesecretary » 12:09 Tue 11 Feb 2020

@CMAG - thank you. If you are looking in the market, please could you look to pick up one of Borges, Calem Foz, Ferreira, Offley Boa Vista, Quarles Harris or Ramos Pinto?

[We are currently missing from the list the following wines of which I am aware:

1. Borges
2. Calem Foz
3. Delaforce Corte
4. Ferreira
5. Hutcheson
6. Offley Boa Vista
7. Quarles Harris (in bottle; we have been offered a magnum which is extremely generous but which I would prefer to enable the owner to save opening for another occasion)
8. Ramos Pinto
9. Real Vinicola
10. Real Companhia Velha

However we already have 16 16 bottles (plus the magnum, were we to accept it). I consider 18 ideal and 21 an absolute limit. So, pruning ongoing.

(a) I will check with CPR 1 whether the Berry's Own selection is the same blend as the Warre VP and if so I suggest we drop it.
(b) I will check in my own cellar whether the Royal Oporto is a Colheita or not (my cellar diary is unclear) and if it is a Colheita I will drop it. [Checked: The Royal Oporto is a full VP]
(c) The Delaforce Corte and Hutcheson have poor reputations and I propose we ignore them.
(d) Real Vinicola & Real Companhia Velha ports from this vintage I have no data on.]
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Re: 1980 Horizontal, Tuesday 24th November, B&F

Post by CPR 1 » 12:55 Tue 11 Feb 2020

I understand BBR is Warre (same blend) capsule and cork say Warre, but BBR label.

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Re: 1980 Horizontal, Tuesday 24th November, B&F

Post by winesecretary » 14:03 Tue 11 Feb 2020

Charles, that's prompt, helpful and conclusive. Thank you. I will remove that one from the list. It is thus looking very likely you will be asked to provide the Sandeman.

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