Double horizontal of ’83 and ’85, Brooklyn, Sat 13 Sept ’08

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Re: Double horizontal of ’83 and ’85, Brooklyn, Sat 13 Sept ’08

Post by DRT » 22:44 Tue 09 Sep 2008

Team: vote.
  • Sighted: JDAW;
  • Blind: SushiNorth, g-man, DRT*.
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*I get a vote for donating the bags :wink:
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Re: Double horizontal of ’83 and ’85, Brooklyn, Sat 13 Sept ’08

Post by DRT » 22:53 Tue 09 Sep 2008

Do you need me to Fed-Ex the Team Glasses?

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Re: Double horizontal of ’83 and ’85, Brooklyn, Sat 13 Sept ’08

Post by jdaw1 » 23:08 Tue 09 Sep 2008

DRT wrote:*I get a vote for donating the bags
Think more carefully about the precedents you set. Do you really want me to get a vote at every tasting at which my placemats are used?

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Re: Double horizontal of ’83 and ’85, Brooklyn, Sat 13 Sept ’08

Post by DRT » 23:18 Tue 09 Sep 2008

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DRT wrote:*I get a vote for donating the bags
Think more carefully about the precedents you set. Do you really want me to get a vote at every tasting at which my placemats are used?
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Re: Double horizontal of ’83 and ’85, Brooklyn, Sat 13 Sept ’08

Post by g-man » 00:26 Wed 10 Sep 2008

jdaw1 wrote:If we do it blind, we can do better than that. I have labelled bags—courtesy of DRT.

But it is a team decision. Team: vote.
  • Sighted: JDAW;
  • Blind: SushiNorth, g-man.
If we do it blind, somebody (probably Mrs Facciol) will put bottles in bags. We’ll taste. When everybody has sampled and guessed, we’ll reveal. Then there can be further tasting, sighted. Then food.
Steph would volunteer bagging if we do blinds as she prefers not to be too overly involved in guessing at these things.

And what about food actually... A key component to any tasting.

Jay, any suggestions?
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Re: Double horizontal of ’83 and ’85, Brooklyn, Sat 13 Sept ’08

Post by g-man » 02:29 Wed 10 Sep 2008

Suggestions for food btw anyone?

Would you guys be interested in a chinese which goes very well with port ? (Schezuan or cantonese cooking in particular)
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g-man wrote:Suggestions for food btw anyone?

Would you guys be interested in a chinese which goes very well with port ? (Schezuan or cantonese cooking in particular)
Can I object even though I will not be there? This is possibly the worst food suggestion I have ever seen for a VP off-line. Sorry, g-man, save the Chinese for a cheap LBV :wink:
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Re: Double horizontal of ’83 and ’85, Brooklyn, Sat 13 Sept ’08

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g-man wrote:Suggestions for food btw anyone?

Would you guys be interested in a chinese which goes very well with port ? (Schezuan or cantonese cooking in particular)
Can I object even though I will not be there? This is possibly the worst food suggestion I have ever seen for a VP off-line. Sorry, g-man, save the Chinese for a cheap LBV :wink:
it's okay, I'll forgive you for your blasphemy. I've lived in London for 3 months and was horrified with the options of chinese food you guys have out there.

On a side discussion, you do realize that China is roughly 39x's the size of the UK which would lead to a incredible variety of cooking styles depending on region =)

If you make it to state side by oct 12th, you are most welcome to my wedding party to sample traditional cantonese chinese cuisine =)
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Re: Double horizontal of ’83 and ’85, Brooklyn, Sat 13 Sept ’08

Post by jdaw1 » 03:18 Wed 10 Sep 2008

G-man’s wedding reception will have excellent food. But it won’t go with port.

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Re: Double horizontal of ’83 and ’85, Brooklyn, Sat 13 Sept ’08

Post by g-man » 03:19 Wed 10 Sep 2008

heh possibly.. I did start out as a cognac drinker first.

but roast suckling pig... is an excellent paring with brawny vintage ports .. like taylor 77
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g-man wrote:heh possibly.. I did start out as a cognac drinker first.

but roast suckling pig... is an excellent paring with brawny vintage ports .. like taylor 77
I agree. But not Chinese flavoured (from any of the 2345 gastronomic regions) suckling pig. Just a suckling pig, roasted, but not over-roasted.

Great vintage port should always be paired with a second glass of the same or another great vintage port. Some cheese or chocolate may be consumed after you have tasted the Great Vintage Port.

Port, good Port and bad Port can be paired with cheese, choclolate or Chinese food. Cruze Ruby can be used to wash down a Vindaloo.
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Re: Double horizontal of ’83 and ’85, Brooklyn, Sat 13 Sept ’08

Post by g-man » 03:41 Wed 10 Sep 2008

ahh yes yes, we both agree on that =) ...
I would sht a brick if i saw someone drinking a fonseca 94 without first appreciating it for what it is first!
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Post by g-man » 03:49 Wed 10 Sep 2008

how about garlic lamb with port?
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Re: Double horizontal of ’83 and ’85, Brooklyn, Sat 13 Sept ’08

Post by TBird » 03:57 Wed 10 Sep 2008

blind has absolutely no benefits for me(this event), but i can easily go with the flow.
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Re: Double horizontal of ’83 and ’85, Brooklyn, Sat 13 Sept ’08

Post by jfacciol » 03:59 Wed 10 Sep 2008

I love the suggestion that my wife would do anything for the tasting other than allowing it. Whatever is done will be done by us.

I vote for non-blind. I don't even know what the point of a blind tasting is. So that we can try to guess what a particular port is?

How did we get to eleven? I only have room (and chairs) for ten. Who is the eleventh?

I assumed that we would just order in food from a local restaurant. Jeff, are you suggesting that you would bring something?
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Re: Double horizontal of ’83 and ’85, Brooklyn, Sat 13 Sept ’08

Post by jdaw1 » 04:03 Wed 10 Sep 2008

  • Sighted: JDAW, FF (2 votes as he is the host and agrees with me), MW (is that the correct interpretation of the post?);
  • Blind: SushiNorth, g-man (and, grudgingly, a half vote for DRT).

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Re: Double horizontal of ’83 and ’85, Brooklyn, Sat 13 Sept ’08

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jfacciol wrote: I don't even know what the point of a blind tasting is. So that we can try to guess what a particular port is?
No. So that you can laugh at the poeple who profess to know the distinctive attributes of particular shippers and vintages yet cannot tell a Ruby from a Nacional 63 when blindfolded :lol:

Try it. It can be very enlightening.
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jfacciol wrote:I love the suggestion that my wife would do anything for the tasting other than allowing it. Whatever is done will be done by us.

I vote for non-blind. I don't even know what the point of a blind tasting is. So that we can try to guess what a particular port is?

How did we get to eleven? I only have room (and chairs) for ten. Who is the eleventh?

I assumed that we would just order in food from a local restaurant. Jeff, are you suggesting that you would bring something?
if people would like a big chunk of protein that would be prohibitively expensive at a restaurant, I'm happy to cook it at home and bring it over. It would, though, have to be supplmented by food from a local restaurant regardless.
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Re: Double horizontal of ’83 and ’85, Brooklyn, Sat 13 Sept ’08

Post by jfacciol » 04:16 Wed 10 Sep 2008

No. So that you can laugh at the poeple who profess to know the distinctive attributes of particular shippers and vintages yet cannot tell a Ruby from a Nacional 63 when blindfolded
We already know that folks can't even differentiate white and red wine, much less varieties of vintage port.

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Post by g-man » 04:19 Wed 10 Sep 2008

jfacciol wrote:
No. So that you can laugh at the poeple who profess to know the distinctive attributes of particular shippers and vintages yet cannot tell a Ruby from a Nacional 63 when blindfolded
We already know that folks can't even differentiate white and red wine, much less varieties of vintage port.
heh, but I do recall our first port tasting jay, in which you suggested if there are particular defining characteristics in a particular house.

I was curious about the comment and think that between the graham's, dow and fonseca that I could probably pick out the house styles.
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Re: Double horizontal of ’83 and ’85, Brooklyn, Sat 13 Sept ’08

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jfacciol wrote:
No. So that you can laugh at the poeple who profess to know the distinctive attributes of particular shippers and vintages yet cannot tell a Ruby from a Nacional 63 when blindfolded
We already know that folks can't even differentiate white and red wine, much less varieties of vintage port.
Agreed. But have you ever witnessed JDAW mistake an LBV for a Fonseca 66?
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Re: Double horizontal of ’83 and ’85, Brooklyn, Sat 13 Sept ’08

Post by g-man » 04:28 Wed 10 Sep 2008

Port, finalized:

* Fonseca:
o 1983 Jeff;
o 1985 Jeff;
* Gould Campbell:
o 1983 Jay;
o 1985 Jay;
* Nacional:
o 1983 Eric; / Dave will chip in
o 1985 JDAW.
* Dow:
o 1983 Subir Adopted
o 1985 SushiNorth;
* Graham:
o 1983 TBird;
o 1985 Subir Adopted:

People in attendance: Dave, Eric, Jay, Josh, Julian, Jeff, Mike, Molly, Steph, Subir

Food: To be ordered from local restaurant around the area.
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Re: Double horizontal of ’83 and ’85, Brooklyn, Sat 13 Sept ’08

Post by jdaw1 » 04:40 Wed 10 Sep 2008

g-man wrote:if people would like a big chunk of protein that would be prohibitively expensive at a restaurant, I'm happy to cook it at home and bring it over. It would, though, have to be supplmented by food from a local restaurant regardless.
Hmmm. Good idea. Bring an uncooked steak. Eat it.

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Post by g-man » 04:43 Wed 10 Sep 2008

jdaw1 wrote:
g-man wrote:if people would like a big chunk of protein that would be prohibitively expensive at a restaurant, I'm happy to cook it at home and bring it over. It would, though, have to be supplmented by food from a local restaurant regardless.
Hmmm. Good idea. Bring an uncooked steak. Eat it.
i only have 4 pounds left of a prime aged beef tenderloin. Surely not enough for a crowd. With different preferences on wellness, beef is not one cut of protein I'd be inclined to try to appease our fellow port tasters.
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Re: Double horizontal of ’83 and ’85, Brooklyn, Sat 13 Sept ’08

Post by TBird » 14:48 Wed 10 Sep 2008

si :|
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  • Sighted: JDAW, FF (2 votes as he is the host and agrees with me), MW (is that the correct interpretation of the post?);
  • Blind: SushiNorth, g-man (and, grudgingly, a half vote for DRT).
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