23rdFebruary offline @ The New Cavendish Club - Vesuvio

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AHB wrote:
Cookie wrote:I have just acquired a 2004 to add to the list if we are going for the full house :D ...but none the less would still be more than happy to adopt the 1990 from Alex.
I'm unclear - does that mean you want to adopt the 1990 from me and bring that as well as the 2004? Or are you saying that you can bring a 2004 instead of adopting the 1990 now that you have one?
If it helps: Jacob is adopting a 1997 from me. Jacob is welcome to switch to adopting either the 1990 from AHB or the 2004 from Cookie and I will adopt the 1997 from myself. Either way, all three are now in the line-up.

AHB, please stop trying to scupper the master plan!

We NEED 1989 and 2001. Capela('s) is(are) a bonus but not essential in achieving completeness of a Vesuvio Vertical.

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DRT wrote:Capela('s) are a bonus but not essential in achieving completeness of a Vesuvio Vertical.
True - JDAW, please could the Capella be removed from the tasting mats.
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So, how are we going to achieve "completeness"?

Team purchase?
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DRT wrote:So, how are we going to achieve "completeness"?

Team purchase?
I would be happy to make a contribution to such a worthy cause!
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DRT wrote:So, how are we going to achieve "completeness"?
Completeness is an uneccessary state, is purely temporary and is not a goal in its own right.

Do not be seduced by the false perception of completeness. It will not create world peace or cure all disease. It will simply make you want to create a complete line-up of all ports in the next tasting...

...remind me, what's the next tasting after the Vesuvio?
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AHB wrote:
DRT wrote:So, how are we going to achieve "completeness"?
Completeness is an uneccessary state, is purely temporary and is not a goal in its own right.

Do not be seduced by the false perception of completeness. It will not create world peace or cure all disease. It will simply make you want to create a complete line-up of all ports in the next tasting...

...remind me, what's the next tasting after the Vesuvio?
Are you the same AHB sometimes known as "Mr Vesuvio", arguing here to drink less Vesuvio?! What is the world coming to!
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I think AHB is being very unfair. He and I and a few others have reached a state of Vesuvio Completeness previously whilst others have not yet had the pleasure of that experience.

I agree that Completeness will be a temporary state, but so are many pleasurable things in life :wink:

According to wine searcher there is a 2001 in Suffolk for £35.
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DRT wrote:It is on the placemats, but who is bringing it? It is not on AHB's list!
Best medical opinion attributes the confusion to PDS” . Sorry.

I’ll switch it to the V01 when that is confirmed. Derek: please order the 2001, to be delivered to you. I’ll pay for it.

Is there a spare seat at this tasting? I might have to commence negotiations. If successful, I’m in. If not, the ’01 is on the house.

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jdaw1 wrote:Is there a spare seat at this tasting? I might have to commence negotiations.
Yes.
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jdaw1 wrote: Is there a spare seat at this tasting? I might have to commence negotiations. If successful, I’m in. If not, the ’01 is on the house.
A splendid gesture that is very much appreciated. Thank you.

Now, where can we find a 1989?
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DRT wrote:We NEED 1989 and 2001.
Wine-searcher has the ’89 for £84.15 a bottle or £605 a case. Cheaper in California, if the East Coast annexe is to be in play.
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Updated draft of the placemats. I have requested initials from the missing people. Hopefully you approve of the ’89 hole.

Should this be at The Bowler? For the extra space?
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jdaw1 wrote: Hopefully you approve of the ’89 hole.
Very much.
jdaw1 wrote:Should this be at The Bowler? For the extra space?
The Bowler? Where is that?
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DRT wrote:The Bowler? Where is that?
32 Bowling Green Lane, Clerkenwell, London EC1R 0BJ. Just around the corner from the London Metropolitan Archives. The manager in the first week under new management said we could have the large area at the end, for free, i.e. no corkage.
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jdaw1 wrote:
DRT wrote:The Bowler? Where is that?
32 Bowling Green Lane, Clerkenwell, London EC1R 0BJ. Just around the corner from the London Metropolitan Archives. The manager in the first week under new management said we could have the large area at the end, for free, i.e. no corkage.
I do have the 2 tunnels booked at TCP so we would need to cancel that without causing offence to those who have been extremely good hosts to us over a long period of time. Perhaps one to try for the next arranged offline?
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Updated draft of the placemats:
  • Still missing initials of some people;
  • Bottles added;
  • Title changed;
  • Split into two sessions;
  • CSD left-handed;
  • AHB → A‘V’B;
  • ArialRoundedMTBold → Helvetica-Bold.
Do we need placenames?
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benread wrote:I do have the 2 tunnels booked at TCP so we would need to cancel that without causing offence to those who have been extremely good hosts to us over a long period of time. Perhaps one to try for the next arranged offline?
For smaller events TCP is good. But for larger events, with more bottles and people, I find it too crowded and airless.

Others might disagree.
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jdaw1 wrote:
benread wrote:I do have the 2 tunnels booked at TCP so we would need to cancel that without causing offence to those who have been extremely good hosts to us over a long period of time. Perhaps one to try for the next arranged offline?
For smaller events TCP is good. But for larger events, with more bottles and people, I find it too crowded and airless.

Others might disagree.
I agree with both of you.
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DRT wrote:I agree with both of you.
So what should be done? If we’re moving, earlier cancellation would be more courteous.
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jdaw1 wrote:
DRT wrote:I agree with both of you.
So what should be done? If we’re moving, earlier cancellation would be more courteous.
I agree with you that TCP is not ideal for large tastings. But I agree with Ben that cancellation of an event of this scale that is less than two weeks away would be bad form.
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So what should be done? Vote. Choose! {DitheringEmoticon} {CrossedOutEmoticon} {DecisionEmoticon}
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I vote to stay with the Crusting Pipe on this occassion.
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Updated draft of the placemats:
  • Attendees are now:
    • A‘V’B;
    • DRT;
    • JDAW;
    • BMHR;
    • CMAG;
    • JGH;
    • RLC;
    • ARK;
    • CSD;
    • WS;
    • KT;
    • AO;
    • DJP;
    • AV.
    If you or yours are missing, please say so.
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DRT wrote:I vote to stay with the Crusting Pipe on this occassion.
Me too!

Again, well looked after tonight.
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benread wrote:
DRT wrote:I vote to stay with the Crusting Pipe on this occassion.
Me too!

Again, well looked after tonight.
Very well, but definitely the loudest tasting I have ever attended. And the most women in attendance at any Port tasting in my lifetime. I have no idea whether or not those two facts are related.
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