Mon 24th Sept 2012 - Fonseca vs Warres head to head
- Axel P
- Taylor Quinta de Vargellas 1987
- Posts: 2027
- Joined: 08:09 Wed 12 Sep 2007
- Location: Langenfeld, near Cologne, Germany
- Contact:
Re: Mon 24th Sept 2012 - Fonseca vs Warres head to head
Unfortunately I am in Australia that date.
Axel
Axel
worldofport.com
o-port-unidade.com
o-port-unidade.com
-
- Niepoort LBV
- Posts: 286
- Joined: 14:24 Thu 17 Jan 2008
- Location: London
Re: Mon 24th Sept 2012 - Fonseca vs Warres head to head
Would love to come to this, will have a look through what I have and wear the holes are and will revert.
Re: Mon 24th Sept 2012 - Fonseca vs Warres head to head
Any further thoughts on vintages? I could bring a 66 Wares if we go ahead with 66 to pair with the Fonseca?
-
- Dalva Golden White Colheita 1952
- Posts: 3503
- Joined: 14:22 Wed 15 Dec 2010
- Location: Near Cambridge, UK
Re: Mon 24th Sept 2012 - Fonseca vs Warres head to head
As we've still got a fair amount of time to go, I'm planning on re-checking attendees at the same time as asking people which vintages they may be able to provide; I'll then make a final judgement on vintages, depending on numbers, in order to keep cost reasonable but hopefully keep a broad spectrum. (updated) First post correctly reflects intentions depending on this.griff wrote:Any further thoughts on vintages? I could bring a 66 Wares if we go ahead with 66 to pair with the Fonseca?
- Axel P
- Taylor Quinta de Vargellas 1987
- Posts: 2027
- Joined: 08:09 Wed 12 Sep 2007
- Location: Langenfeld, near Cologne, Germany
- Contact:
Re: Mon 24th Sept 2012 - Fonseca vs Warres head to head
Unfortunately I am in Australia on this date.
Axel
Axel
worldofport.com
o-port-unidade.com
o-port-unidade.com
- uncle tom
- Dalva Golden White Colheita 1952
- Posts: 3518
- Joined: 23:43 Wed 20 Jun 2007
- Location: Near Saffron Walden, England
Re: Mon 24th Sept 2012 - Fonseca vs Warres head to head
I should be able to make this - will know for certain fairly soon.
Within the date range of '55 to '85, I can supply all the vintages, with the exception of F55 which I've rather carelessly drunk myself to extinction on..
Within the date range of '55 to '85, I can supply all the vintages, with the exception of F55 which I've rather carelessly drunk myself to extinction on..
I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I shall be sober and you will still be ugly - W.S. Churchill
-
- Dalva Golden White Colheita 1952
- Posts: 3503
- Joined: 14:22 Wed 15 Dec 2010
- Location: Near Cambridge, UK
Re: Mon 24th Sept 2012 - Fonseca vs Warres head to head
Could people please let me know by email/PM what bottles they would be able to make available for this tasting (together with cost)? I can then sort purchase of any additional bottles required, and sort any payments/credits needed. (I would prefer the more informal "select something to bring" approach, but given our span from F55 to W85 felt that this would be unfair on some people).
Thanks.
Thanks.
Re: Mon 24th Sept 2012 - Fonseca vs Warres head to head
Have sent you an email
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
Ernest H. Cockburn
-
- Dalva Golden White Colheita 1952
- Posts: 3503
- Joined: 14:22 Wed 15 Dec 2010
- Location: Near Cambridge, UK
Re: Mon 24th Sept 2012 - Fonseca vs Warres head to head
An update on status. Regarding budget, the goal is to beat £125/head for port budget (ideally to beat £100/head port-budget), assuming 12 people and assuming the full 14-bottles (55,60,63,66,70,77,85) with good provenance where possible; this is looking viable.
Regarding bottle-sourcing, am currently still looking for the following, if anyone attending is able to offer to supply:
Warre 55,60,70
Fonseca 55,60,63,70
Tom has offered to help filling remaning gaps aside from the F55 which we will need to obtain retail, but if others can assist with the above so that we don't have any one person supplying too many bottles, that would be preferable; if you are therefore able to offer any of the above towards this tasting please PM/email me.
Phil.
Regarding bottle-sourcing, am currently still looking for the following, if anyone attending is able to offer to supply:
Warre 55,60,70
Fonseca 55,60,63,70
Tom has offered to help filling remaning gaps aside from the F55 which we will need to obtain retail, but if others can assist with the above so that we don't have any one person supplying too many bottles, that would be preferable; if you are therefore able to offer any of the above towards this tasting please PM/email me.
Phil.
Re: Mon 24th Sept 2012 - Fonseca vs Warres head to head
I can now confirm my attendance and I would like to bring an industry guest if this is acceptable.
Re: Mon 24th Sept 2012 - Fonseca vs Warres head to head
Let Phil know who it is (by PM, if sensitive) and he can decide!Cookie wrote:I would like to bring an industry guest if this is acceptable.
Rob C.
-
- Dalva Golden White Colheita 1952
- Posts: 3503
- Joined: 14:22 Wed 15 Dec 2010
- Location: Near Cambridge, UK
Re: Mon 24th Sept 2012 - Fonseca vs Warres head to head
Cookie added to attendees. Industry guest would be fine, though I might be hesitant at suggestion of a TFP or Symington guest on this occaison since I would not want them to feel awkward or us constrained in considering the comparisons. Will PM you.Cookie wrote:I can now confirm my attendance and I would like to bring an industry guest if this is acceptable.
Re: Mon 24th Sept 2012 - Fonseca vs Warres head to head
No need to worry...my guest is not from either camp.PhilW wrote:Cookie added to attendees. Industry guest would be fine, though I might be hesitant at suggestion of a TFP or Symington guest on this occaison since I would not want them to feel awkward or us constrained in considering the comparisons. Will PM you.Cookie wrote:I can now confirm my attendance and I would like to bring an industry guest if this is acceptable.
Re: Mon 24th Sept 2012 - Fonseca vs Warres head to head
PhilW wrote:Attending:
- (guest)
Is Phil's "guest" and Cookie's "guest" the same person? If not, do we know they happy to both attend the same tasting?Cookie wrote:I can now confirm my attendance and I would like to bring an industry guest if this is acceptable.
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
Ernest H. Cockburn
-
- Dalva Golden White Colheita 1952
- Posts: 3503
- Joined: 14:22 Wed 15 Dec 2010
- Location: Near Cambridge, UK
Re: Mon 24th Sept 2012 - Fonseca vs Warres head to head
The guest listed in attendees is Cookie's; my planned surprise guest was the Bishop of Norwich who we have now invited to the Olympic tasting, so there is no clash.DRT wrote:PhilW wrote:Attending:
- (guest)
Is Phil's "guest" and Cookie's "guest" the same person? If not, do we know they happy to both attend the same tasting?Cookie wrote:I can now confirm my attendance and I would like to bring an industry guest if this is acceptable.
Re: Mon 24th Sept 2012 - Fonseca vs Warres head to head
Less convenient than it once was. But I’m in.PhilW wrote:Location: TBC (The Bunghole Cellars)
- Alex Bridgeman
- Graham’s 1948
- Posts: 14880
- Joined: 13:41 Mon 25 Jun 2007
- Location: Berkshire, UK
Re: Mon 24th Sept 2012 - Fonseca vs Warres head to head
My trip to Germany in late September has now been cancelled. If there is still space at the table, please could I attend?
Top Ports in 2023: Taylor 1896 Colheita, b. 2021. A perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
-
- Dalva Golden White Colheita 1952
- Posts: 3503
- Joined: 14:22 Wed 15 Dec 2010
- Location: Near Cambridge, UK
Re: Mon 24th Sept 2012 - Fonseca vs Warres head to head
Of course we have a couple of spots remaining if we do have any additional interest.AHB wrote:My trip to Germany in late September has now been cancelled. If there is still space at the table, please could I attend?
-
- Dalva Golden White Colheita 1952
- Posts: 3503
- Joined: 14:22 Wed 15 Dec 2010
- Location: Near Cambridge, UK
Re: Mon 24th Sept 2012 - Fonseca vs Warres head to head
Draft placements here. Currently configured as one sheet of Warre, one sheet of Fonseca; considered alternative of keeping years side by side instead.
Re: Mon 24th Sept 2012 - Fonseca vs Warres head to head
Jolly good, though ‟Warre” needs some kerning: [(W) {-0.09 Kern} (arre)], though I haven’t tested whether -0.09 is optimal.
And pre-pour and cork-display sheets might, or might not, be wanted.
And pre-pour and cork-display sheets might, or might not, be wanted.
Re: Mon 24th Sept 2012 - Fonseca vs Warres head to head
Having received confirmation I can now declare my guest as the eminent wine writer and broadcaster
Jancis Robinson MW.
Jancis Robinson MW.
Re: Mon 24th Sept 2012 - Fonseca vs Warres head to head
Ooer! Looking forward to meeting HRHCookie wrote:Having received confirmation I can now declare my guest as the eminent wine writer and broadcaster
Jancis Robinson MW.
-
- Dalva Golden White Colheita 1952
- Posts: 3503
- Joined: 14:22 Wed 15 Dec 2010
- Location: Near Cambridge, UK
Re: Mon 24th Sept 2012 - Fonseca vs Warres head to head
agree, will experiment; Also the inner W seems too close to the outer circles, though fine for the F; could add a gap inside the outer ring text, but really would only need it for the Warre, which might not be possible with current parameter set? I'll experiment with this also.jdaw1 wrote:Jolly good, though ‟Warre” needs some kerning: [(W) {-0.09 Kern} (arre)], though I haven’t tested whether -0.09 is optimal.
deliberately omitted on both counts since the majority of people will be supplying 1 bottle to the event, so I was considering asking people to bring their pre-decanted bottles (as per normal informal) rather then pre-collecting; on reflection though it's probably better to have the extra sheets and not need them than to find they would be useful on the night and not have them... I'll enable them in next draft.And pre-pour and cork-display sheets might, or might not, be wanted.
Re: Mon 24th Sept 2012 - Fonseca vs Warres head to head
Try something like /ExclusionAnnulusProportionInnerRadiusTitlesAboveBelow 0.02 def, which won’t affect the F but will affect the W.PhilW wrote:Also the inner W seems too close to the outer circles, though fine for the F; could add a gap inside the outer ring text, but really would only need it for the Warre, which might not be possible with current parameter set? I'll experiment with this also.
If preferred this could be code: /ExclusionAnnulusProportionInnerRadiusTitlesAboveBelow {Titles WithinTitles get 0 1 getinterval (W) eq {0.02} {0} ifelse} def.
-
- Warre’s Traditional LBV
- Posts: 330
- Joined: 17:45 Mon 23 May 2011
Re: Mon 24th Sept 2012 - Fonseca vs Warres head to head
I would very much like to attend, provided there's availability of course. Having never attended one before, it seems like a great way to get my port tasting feet wet. I can sponsor a bottle purchased retail if gaps still exist and of course top up to the overall cost per head of £125, should that be required.
Please let me know.
Thanks
Magnus
Please let me know.
Thanks
Magnus