Warre Vertical (incl. LBVs): NYC/Lon - Date TBD

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Warre Vertical (incl. LBVs): NYC/Lon - Date TBD

Post by Chris Doty » 20:49 Tue 12 Mar 2013

The "NATO Summit" tasting will be the most ambitious in the history of TPF, seeking to unite the East and West sides of the Pond for an identical tasting of Warre's vintage port and bottle matured LBVs. Approximate kickoff will be 1pm Eastern, 6pm GMT.

I am proposing Saturday, the ___ of ____ 2014 as a suitable date, subject to the availability of our Industry Guests. Venues to be confirmed once the date is finalized.

We expect to serve:

VPs from: 1958, 1960, 1963, 1966, 1970, 1977, 1980, 1983, 1985, 1991, 1994
LBVs from: 1974 - 1989

We can accommodate as many as 12, and at the moment have down:

1.) Chris
2.) Josh
3.) Jeff
4.) Greg E
5.) Mrs. E
6.) J. Nash
7.) C. Nash
8.) Moses
9.) Dave
10.) Placeholder for Industry Guest
11.) ARS
12.) Mrs. Josh

Reserves:
1.)
2.)

woo woo
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Re: Warre Vertical (incl. LBVs): NYC - Fall 2013

Post by DRT » 21:14 Tue 12 Mar 2013

This feels like a good opportunity for a transatlantic effort. Parallel Warre VP + LBV tastings in London and New Amsterdam on the same day and with the same line-up, each with a Symington guest.

"NATO finally goes to Warre" could be the theme 88)
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Re: Warre Vertical (incl. LBVs): NYC - Fall 2013

Post by jdaw1 » 21:25 Tue 12 Mar 2013

There is a London Warre LBV tasting scheduled for St. George’s Day. If that is to be postponed, it would help if that decision were taken soon.

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Re: Warre Vertical (incl. LBVs): NYC - Fall 2013

Post by g-man » 21:31 Tue 12 Mar 2013

the date proposed for the UK tasting, i shall be in tampa fl at berns steakhouse ;-)
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Re: Warre Vertical (incl. LBVs): NYC - Fall 2013

Post by Chris Doty » 21:37 Tue 12 Mar 2013

DRT wrote:This feels like a good opportunity for a transatlantic effort. Parallel Warre VP + LBV tastings in London and New Amsterdam on the same day and with the same line-up, each with a Symington guest.

"NATO finally goes to Warre" could be the theme 88)
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Post by DRT » 22:03 Tue 12 Mar 2013

I'm disappointed by the lack of a capital "G".
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Re: Warre Vertical (incl. LBVs): NYC - Fall 2013

Post by Chris Doty » 22:08 Tue 12 Mar 2013

DRT wrote:I'm disappointed by the lack of a capital "G".
hmm....I think that may be pushing things a bit.

I did, however, appreciate that you wore glasses during the Doty Cup tasting -- I don't know quite what to make of this 'cerebral' DRT!


The NATO tasting introduces all manner of interesting opportunities re: blindness, btw. For instance, every taster in NY can be poured wines in the same order as only ONE other taster (who would be located in London). Tasters would then need to listen to each others descriptors from across the pond to try to guess who aligns with whom (provided, naturally, that the bottles themselves are consistent).

Regardless of format, this should be a grand affair if we can get it organized.
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Post by DRT » 22:27 Tue 12 Mar 2013

Chris Doty wrote:I did, however, appreciate that you wore glasses during the Doty Cup tasting -- I don't know quite what to make of this 'cerebral' DRT!
The very complex explanation is that, despite physical appearance and an intensive health, beauty and fitness regime, DRT is getting old. I am told that it is impossible to avoid eyesight deterioration. I am willing to concede that my glasses make me look wise and distinguished.
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Re: Warre Vertical (incl. LBVs): NYC - Fall 2013

Post by SushiNorth » 22:31 Tue 12 Mar 2013

Chris Doty wrote:While certain details will need to be filled in, this thread will canvas interest and ultimately organize a monster vertical of Warre's vintage port and bottle matured LBVs, to be held at a suitable NYC venue (Alison Eighteen?) on a Fall Saturday in 2013.
Not the first time the idea of a Warres VP has come up, and I would agree it may be time to do it. I'm not sure it is necessary to include LBVs unless no VP is available. I've been preparing for a Warres VP vertical for a while...
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Post by DRT » 22:53 Tue 12 Mar 2013

SushiNorth wrote:I'm not sure it is necessary to include LBVs
The inclusion of Warre LBVs can be interesting.
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Re: Warre Vertical (incl. LBVs): NYC - Fall 2013

Post by Chris Doty » 22:57 Tue 12 Mar 2013

SushiNorth wrote:
Chris Doty wrote:I'm not sure it is necessary to include LBVs...
Port tastings are rarely about necessity... 88)

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Post by jdaw1 » 23:05 Tue 12 Mar 2013

Chris Doty wrote:Port tastings are rarely about necessity... )
Oscar Wilde, in The Picture of Dorian Gray, wrote:There was a rather heavy bill ! that he had not yet had the courage to send on to his guardians, who were extremely old-fashioned people and did not realise that we live in an age when unnecessary things are our only necessities

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Re: Warre Vertical (incl. LBVs): NYC - Fall 2013

Post by mosesbotbol » 23:22 Tue 12 Mar 2013

Right now, I don't have much for Warre. Excel is saying a magnum 1970, plenty of 1994 and some 2000 LBV's.
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Re: Warre Vertical (incl. LBVs): NYC - Fall 2013

Post by differentdave » 23:32 Tue 12 Mar 2013

Sounds like fun, count me in!

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Post by Chris Doty » 23:37 Tue 12 Mar 2013

jdaw1 wrote:
Chris Doty wrote:Port tastings are rarely about necessity... )
Oscar Wilde, in The Picture of Dorian Gray, wrote:There was a rather heavy bill ! that he had not yet had the courage to send on to his guardians, who were extremely old-fashioned people and did not realise that we live in an age when unnecessary things are our only necessities
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Re: Warre Vertical (incl. LBVs): NYC - Fall 2013

Post by ARS » 00:37 Wed 13 Mar 2013

Sounds great. I would definitely like to join the NYC tasting.

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Re: Warre Vertical (incl. LBVs): NYC - Fall 2013

Post by John M » 06:32 Wed 13 Mar 2013

Looks like I'm the first reserve...so I'm in to there.

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Post by Chris Doty » 15:44 Wed 13 Mar 2013

Excellent -- I think that's our 12 then.

Should be a glorious event.

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Post by jdaw1 » 16:01 Wed 13 Mar 2013

Chris Doty wrote:LBVs from: 1974 - 1989
Tell all: be more specific.

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Post by Chris Doty » 16:11 Wed 13 Mar 2013

jdaw1 wrote:Tell all: be more specific.
G-man?

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Post by g-man » 17:34 Wed 13 Mar 2013

Chris Doty wrote:
jdaw1 wrote:Tell all: be more specific.
G-man?
i'll have to go down int he cellar tonight and check.

I have vague recollection from auction receipts that I won a whole bunch of lbvs from that time frame but I dont actually know exactly what I have.
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Post by jdaw1 » 17:48 Wed 13 Mar 2013

g-man wrote:I have vague recollection from auction receipts
Generally it works as follows.
  1. Recollection, perhaps vague, perhaps less vague, of ownership of lots of juicy bottles.
  2. Find time to visit storage.
  3. Bottles not there? Robbery! Theft! Heinous villainy!
  4. Vague recollection of having tasted, at most, one or two of them. Maybe.
  5. Oh, and that one.
  6. Ah: maybe that one too.
  7. Did I taste that one as well?
  8. Yes.
  9. And!?
  10. Yes.

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Post by g-man » 19:15 Wed 13 Mar 2013

jdaw1 wrote:
g-man wrote:I have vague recollection from auction receipts
Generally it works as follows.
  1. Recollection, perhaps vague, perhaps less vague, of ownership of lots of juicy bottles.
  2. Find time to visit storage.
  3. Bottles not there? Robbery! Theft! Heinous villainy!
  4. Vague recollection of having tasted, at most, one or two of them. Maybe.
  5. Oh, and that one.
  6. Ah: maybe that one too.
  7. Did I taste that one as well?
  8. Yes.
  9. And!?
  10. Yes.
hopefully i was sober in this sort of line of questioning.
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Re: Warre Vertical (incl. LBVs): NYC - Fall 2013

Post by AHB » 09:01 Fri 15 Mar 2013

You've suggested Fall as a timing for the US side of this tasting - any further thoughts? Mid September perhaps? Mid-week (Thursday night) would be easier for us to organise a simultaneous tasting?

How about Thursday 12th September?
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Re: Warre Vertical (incl. LBVs): NYC - Fall 2013

Post by Chris Doty » 16:24 Fri 15 Mar 2013

AHB wrote:You've suggested Fall as a timing for the US side of this tasting - any further thoughts? Mid September perhaps? Mid-week (Thursday night) would be easier for us to organise a simultaneous tasting?

How about Thursday 12th September?
You guys are more eager to book things far in advance than is usually my habit. Ultimately, I think the timing of this would be contingent on any input from our industry guest(s), as we'd want to accommodate their schedules. Also, given the size of the tasting, I think a Saturday/Sunday would make more sense, and would make it easier for people to attend in New York, and would also make it feasible to have the two events at the same time (e.g., 1pm start in NYC and a 6pm start in London).

I don't yet have a preference in terms of month, though generally I enjoy port most in colder months (but you also risk people being sick, or just not having a adept nose). In short, I am open minded.

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