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This post to hold arrangements when they are agreed.

Wednesday 24th April 2013 (after the BFT).

Location: The Bung Hole, 57 High Holborn, London WC1V 6DT, tel 020 7831 8365 (streetmap.co.uk, maps.google.co.uk).

Theme: some 2007 LBVs.

1. Tesco, ‟Bottled by Symington Family Estates”;
2. Waitrose, ‟In Partnership with Symington Family Estates”;
3. Sainsbury’s, ‟Bottled by Symington Family Estates”;
4. Cockburn;
5. Graham;
6. Marks & Spencer, ‟Bottled by Quinta and Vineyard Bottlers”;
7. Taylor;
8. Sandeman;
9. Morrisons, ‟Bottled by Symington Family Estates”.

Who?

1. AHB;
2. JDAW;
3. DRT;
4. DJ;
5. RB (friend of DJ);
6. RAYC.

Current draft of the placemats.

Recently I have acquired six 2007 LBVs. From Tesco: Taylor; Cockburn; and a Tesco BOB made by the Symingtons. From Waitrose: Sandeman; Graham’s; and a Waitrose BOB made by the Symingtons.

2007 LBVs would make a pleasant non-expensive theme for a small gathering. I’m willing to provide these six, which get us started and, numbers dependent, might even be sufficient. The ‟Where?” question has the obvious answer. But who and when?

jdaw1 wrote:The ‟Where?” question has the obvious answer. But who and when?

The "who?" question also has at least a partly obvious answer. I am flexible on the when.

JDAW has amassed a small collection of 2007 LBVs from various supermarkets and is offering these for adoption and participation in a 2007 Supermarket LBV Offline.

Wednesday 24th April in the usual place?

JDAW and AHB are in. Anyone else?

Yes I imagine that come the evening of the 24th we'll all be suffering hideous port withdrawal... Go on then, DJ + 1 please (RB, dexter).

Original and new topics merged.

First draft of the placemats.

I would like to join you, but probably for food only as i'm trying to limit the amount i drink (but - as a trade-off - aim to indulge in the "good stuff" when i do!). As such, 07 LBVs have limited appeal (though the Sandeman is rather tasty).

I'll probably have a bottle of VP or something with me, but will see how i feel after 23rd. If i do, those who are not being purist in their approach to LBVs would be welcome to share.

RAYC wrote:I'll probably have a bottle of VP or something with me...

A man after my own heart. Don't tell anyone, but I plan to do the same thing.

AHB wrote:

RAYC wrote:I'll probably have a bottle of VP or something with me...

A man after my own heart. Don't tell anyone, but I plan to do the same thing.

Do we really need more?

Yes, of course we do, you have persuaded me. I'll bring a back-up VP in case either RAYC or AHB's is unduly compromised*.





* "unduly compromised" = "consumed before closing time"

Maybe I'll bring a bottle of Co-op 2007... I hear it's a top-flight wine.

djewesbury wrote:Maybe I'll bring a bottle of Co-op 2007... I hear it's a top-flight wine.

Actually I will bring some of this (a bottle, maybe two, but not, as implied in the link, a case: sorry, jdaw).

djewesbury wrote:Actually I will bring some of this (a bottle, maybe two, but not, as implied in the link, a case: sorry, jdaw).

Damn I bought one of those today, for £13.84: ‟Bottled by Quinta & Vineyard Bottlers”.

djewesbury wrote:Maybe I'll bring a bottle of Co-op 2007... I hear it's a top-flight wine.

If this comment was serious, excellent. Please do. (Alas www.co-operativefood.co.uk is utterly useless. But there’s one near me I’ll check.)

I haven’t yet checked Sainsbury’s, but the online catalogue might have, at best, Graham and Cockburn, both of which we already have.

Morrisons have Taylor, Cockburn, Graham all of which we have and Morrisons 2007 LBV Port, ‟Sourced from the same Symington estates as many of the 'big boys'”. (Though at least some of the description was written for the 2006 LBV, but the ’07 is definitely SFE.) Please could somebody volunteer to acquire one?

jdaw1 wrote:

djewesbury wrote:Actually I will bring some of this (a bottle, maybe two, but not, as implied in the link, a case: sorry, jdaw).

Damn I bought one of those today, for £13.84: ‟Bottled by Quinta & Vineyard Bottlers”.

Are M&S the only chain grocers supplied by Taylor Fladgate? Or are other BOBs Taylor? Most seem to be SFE.

What does BOB stand for?

jdaw1 wrote:

djewesbury wrote:Maybe I'll bring a bottle of Co-op 2007... I hear it's a top-flight wine.

If this comment was serious, excellent. Please do.

It was an attempt at the lowest form of wit, I admit it.. BUT I accept the challenge, and will try and find one.

Incidentally, has anyone posted anything regarding which quintas / brands the shippers are using for their BOBs? Is Sainsbury's SFE the same as Tesco's SFE?

djewesbury wrote:What does BOB stand for?

Buyer’s Own Brand.

djewesbury wrote:

jdaw1 wrote:

djewesbury wrote:Maybe I'll bring a bottle of Co-op 2007... I hear it's a top-flight wine.

If this comment was serious, excellent. Please do.

It was an attempt at the lowest form of wit, I admit it.. BUT I accept the challenge, and will try and find one.

I edited as you were posting.

djewesbury wrote:Is Sainsbury's SFE the same as Tesco's SFE?

Use your palate and nose, and judge for yourself. But some differences are merely marketing: if two supermarket are selling Blogg Brothers’ Ruby, there can be price competition. If one supermarket sells Blogg Brothers’ Ruby ‘Pebbles’, and the other sells Blogg Brothers’ Ruby ‘Gravel’, there is no price competition. And the wines might, or might not, identical. Indeed, might be identical in some years, and not in others.

This is 2005, rather than 2007, unfortunately.

My local Co-op has no port at all.

jdaw1 wrote:My local Co-op has no port at all.

A mission, then. I shall find Co-op central when I am in London.

djewesbury wrote:A mission, then. I shall find Co-op central when I am in London.

It might be more productive to find a Morrisons.

jdaw1 wrote:

djewesbury wrote:A mission, then. I shall find Co-op central when I am in London.

It might be more productive to find a Morrisons.

Both then.

Cockburn 2007 LBV

Waitrose BOB 2007 LBV

Tesco BOB 2007 LBV

Taylor 2007 LBV

Marks & Spencer BOB 2007 LBV

Sandeman 2007 LBV