Tue 28th May, The Bung Hole

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 15:08 Thu 18 Apr 2013

Tues 28th May

A friendly get-together; bring a bottle wrapped in foil.

The Bung Hole, aka Davy's Holborn Bar and Grill, 57 High Holborn, WC1V 6DT, tel 020 7831 8365, streetmap.co.uk, maps.google.co.uk

Confirmed:
DJ
DRT
JDAW
THRA
RW (DJ's guest Mr Richard West)

original post:
Does anyone have an objection to doing something on the 28th of May? I'll be passing through London on the 29th, but I'd come a day early if anyone fancied some conviviality.

Links to the review of the evening and the tasting notes:

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Post by **jdaw1** » 15:25 Thu 18 Apr 2013

Themes proposed but not yet done, so needing a date, include Warre LBVs and Axel’s Cálem Vertical. Please do take charge.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 15:41 Thu 18 Apr 2013

jdaw1 wrote:Themes proposed but not yet done, so needing a date, include Warre LBVs and Axel’s Cálem Vertical. Please do take charge.

These both seem excellent ideas which are already fairly well-advanced in terms of sourcing the requisite materials. My first instinct is to say 'Cálem', just because they're VPs rather than LBVs; and secondly because they're more obscure.. but this depends on Axel.

What does anyone else prefer? Can we have a show of hands for each? I'll gladly make a decision if it's inconclusive. Which may be for the LBVs after all. We'll see. I'm feeling a little capricious.

RAYC · Post by **RAYC** » 17:10 Thu 18 Apr 2013

There was also discussion of a 1958 horizontal at one point

I'd like to revisit 1960s at some point over the next 18 months, but that might take a bit more planning.

Post by **jdaw1** » 18:04 Thu 18 Apr 2013

Or the organiser could choose a different theme: a different year; a different shipper; a totally different structure; or even the perennial ‘Bring A Bottle’. Choices choices.

Post by **DRT** » 22:02 Thu 18 Apr 2013

I'm in.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 00:28 Fri 19 Apr 2013

There are indeed many possibilities. An SQVP theme? Bomfim vertical? But then you've just had a Dowathon. 1980 horizontal? I admit I'm intrigued by the Cálem. But then I'll do anything really. I have PMed Axel so we shall see what he says.

Patience, mes amis...

Post by **DRT** » 00:37 Fri 19 Apr 2013

"Turn up with a bottle of Vintage Port wrapped in foil" would not be a bad idea.

Axel P · Post by **Axel P** » 06:57 Fri 19 Apr 2013

Thanks guys, for keeping the Calem vertical in mind. Unfortunately I cannot make it to the UK in May.

Axel

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 08:49 Fri 19 Apr 2013

Sadly I can't make 28th May - I'll be on holiday in Derbyshire!

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 08:53 Fri 19 Apr 2013

AHB wrote:Sadly I can't make 28th May - I'll be on holiday in Derbyshire!

Offline in Derbs, anyone..?

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 08:54 Fri 19 Apr 2013

NB: joke

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 11:44 Fri 19 Apr 2013

Axel cannot make that date.. The Warre LBV issue seems to be far too political and above my pay grade, I couldn't possibly decide to do something of this magnitude when the NATO tasting in September is still on the cards (is it still on the cards?).

DHT's wonderful suggestion of 'bring a bottle wrapped in tinfoil' is now officially the theme of the evening.

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 12:57 Fri 19 Apr 2013

djewesbury wrote:NB: joke

Don't joke. We have had several offlines in Derbyshire...

RAYC · Post by **RAYC** » 11:52 Sat 20 Apr 2013

I should be able to come, but need to get home from holiday, work out what is going on at work for the next month etc.etc. before committing.

Bring a bottle sounds good. I have a matching pair to be served together blind at some point that could be an option if we get 6+ attendees.

Post by **PhilW** » 08:22 Tue 07 May 2013

djewesbury wrote:Â¿Possible?:
6. PW

I'm currently looking unlikely to be able to make a tasting that week due to other commitments, I'm afraid.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 18:12 Tue 07 May 2013

PhilW wrote:
djewesbury wrote:Â¿Possible?:
6. PW
I'm currently looking unlikely to be able to make a tasting that week due to other commitments, I'm afraid.

Sorry to hear that. First post amended.
Any advance from others?

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 15:24 Sat 11 May 2013

We have a confirmed fourth, THRA. Come forth and drink port, the room will now be booked.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 22:09 Sat 11 May 2013

I am going to commence a draft of the placemats. How many bottles will we have, at this reckoning? I can revise if RAYC / BMHR confirm, but I presume the Laws state that 'where four gather to drink port, the number of bottles they shall drink shall be 4 x 1.2 and this shall be rounded up somehow to 5'. Something along those lines anyway. Would that be terribly inaccurate?

Post by **jdaw1** » 22:27 Sat 11 May 2013

djewesbury wrote:I am going to commence a draft of the placemats.

Splendid. Post drafts and I will comment.

djewesbury wrote:the number of bottles they shall drink shall be 4 x 1.2 and this shall be rounded up somehow to 5'. Something along those lines anyway. Would that be terribly inaccurate?

Under the recommended TPF non-Euclidean non-US^” geometry, 5 ≈ 6, and the latter is better.

For a forthcoming tasting (this? another?) I have a worthwhile comparison to be done between a bottle and two halves. And there is a risk that might become a bottle and three halves.

” On A4 five and six both fit well; on 8½″×11″ five fits better than six.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 00:50 Wed 15 May 2013

Possible guest. Added in the first post.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 20:54 Wed 15 May 2013

Guest confirmed.

Please advise a rough estimate of how many bottles you might be bringing, for the placemats.

RAYC, BHMR, are you able to rule yourselves in or out? I can keep two blank placemats if it's not possible to say at the moment.

The day before I will hopefully be at Wembley watching Crystal Palace ascend to the Premiership.

The day after I will depart for the Venice Biennale.

The Port Forum is the meat in my sandwich.

benread · Post by **benread** » 12:51 Thu 16 May 2013

djewesbury wrote:Guest confirmed.

Please advise a rough estimate of how many bottles you might be bringing, for the placemats.

RAYC, BHMR, are you able to rule yourselves in or out? I can keep two blank placemats if it's not possible to say at the moment.

The day before I will hopefully be at Wembley watching Crystal Palace ascend to the Premiership.

The day after I will depart for the Venice Biennale.

The Port Forum is the meat in my sandwich.

Assume not in my case. If this changes and there is no place at for me' I'll take my chances!

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Post by **jdaw1** » 13:00 Thu 16 May 2013

djewesbury wrote:Please advise a rough estimate of how many bottles you might be bringing, for the placemats.

You choose. I have a conventional bottle of fine port to bring. Or I could bring an interesting comparison of a bottle and two half-bottles.

You choose. Griff’s departure do gets the other.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 13:34 Thu 16 May 2013

jdaw1 wrote:
djewesbury wrote:Please advise a rough estimate of how many bottles you might be bringing, for the placemats.
You choose. I have a conventional bottle of fine port to bring. Or I could bring an interesting comparison of a bottle and two half-bottles.

You choose. Griff’s departure do gets the other.

Definitely the interesting comparison please.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 13:35 Thu 16 May 2013

benread wrote:Assume not in my case. If this changes and there is no place at for me' I'll take my chances!

There will be a place for you come what may.

Post by **jdaw1** » 14:01 Thu 16 May 2013

djewesbury wrote:Please advise a rough estimate of how many bottles you might be bringing, for the placemats.

One bottle and two half-bottles.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 11:05 Fri 17 May 2013

@RAYC -
Are you able to commit yet? If yes we are 6. Ben is unlikely so that is probably the cap. Now that JDAW is bringing his bottle and two halves do you still think you'll bring your matching pair or might that be overkill..? (There is nothing wrong with overkill.)

@THRA / DRT -
Tom, you must be somewhere on the English coastline. DRT is in a [/ Sainsbury / Sainsbury's / branch of J Sainsbury's] somewhere in the north.
What might the two of you bring (quantity / format only, so I can name the bottles on the placemats).

Will anyone be able to print these at the end of next week or on Monday 27th?

Post by **DRT** » 23:20 Fri 17 May 2013

djewesbury wrote:DRT - What might ... you bring

Only two bottles from me.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 23:34 Fri 17 May 2013

DRT wrote:
djewesbury wrote:DRT - What might ... you bring
Only two bottles from me.

Truly splendid. We are well on the way to filling our quota for the evening! I expect us to reach (the equivalent of) 8 bottles at least, at this rate, which should suffice between 6.

Placemat draft #2 follows tomorrow.

(or Monday)

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 01:47 Sun 19 May 2013

I think I will bring an unmatched pair of the same vintage. We now have
DRT - 2 bottles
JDAW - Matched trio of 1 standard bottle & 2 halves
DJ - 2 bottles
THRA -
RAYC -

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 20:25 Mon 20 May 2013

Latest draft of the placemats.
THRA down for one bottle until advised differently. RAYC not yet included.
Decanter labels included, should anyone require them. Perhaps if a bottle shape is too recognisable.
Corks sheet for interest, after guessing. (Please bring your cork.)

Post by **jdaw1** » 20:55 Fri 24 May 2013

It now seems that I have to be in the City for lunch on Tuesday. That is likely to finish by 3½pm. Afterwards I could sit somewhere for a few hours and catch up with my reading. Or!?

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 21:22 Fri 24 May 2013

Yes.
This could be a very good idea. Obviously I have pouring duties etc. but I hoped you would advise in that anyway...

Post by **jdaw1** » 21:46 Fri 24 May 2013

djewesbury wrote:pouring duties etc.

Previous precedent is not to pre-pour unless there are â‰¥10 people. And even 10 or 11 isn’t always pre-poured.

With five of us there is little to do. Arrange pages on table (three minutes), arrange glasses (ditto), order pre-starter snack (ditto), sit down (less), start drinking and definitely don’t wait for anybody else. In the immortal words of the constitution of the Cambridge University Tiddlywinks Club, ‟a quorum shall be the number present”. (Those googling this phrase will find a document showing signs of having been amended while much the worse for wear. E.g., Article 17(2).)

Derek is telling me by telepathy that he can start at 4pm.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 22:44 Fri 24 May 2013

Oh in that case..
I will make sure to be there around the same time or before.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 09:22 Mon 27 May 2013

Update. I have to wait in tomorrow until a replacement phone arrives, and then do the obligatory fiddling about to get it working. Also my guest has childcare duties and will not leave home (Ealing) until 6 pm.

More anon.

Post by **DRT** » 14:50 Mon 27 May 2013

jdaw1 wrote:Derek is telling me by telepathy that he can start at 4pm.

I have a meeting that is scheduled to run until 18:00 so will arrive around 18:30.

Post by **DRT** » 14:50 Mon 27 May 2013

jdaw1 wrote:Derek is telling me by telepathy that he can start at 4pm.

I have a meeting that is scheduled to run until 18:00 so will arrive around 18:30.

RAYC · Post by **RAYC** » 10:59 Tue 28 May 2013

I must admit defeat - i had hoped that the stormclouds would clear but unfortunately there is no chance of me making this....

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 11:18 Tue 28 May 2013

RAYC wrote:I must admit defeat - i had hoped that the stormclouds would clear but unfortunately there is no chance of me making this....

That's a shame - see you in June hopefully.
So Julian will drink his port before anyone arrives, I will probably arrive sometime around 5, Derek at about 6.30, Richard (guest) about 7.

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 12:01 Tue 28 May 2013

Mrs A and I were put off our trip to Derbyshire by the poor weather forecast so will be visiting the British Museum today - handily located just round the corner from TBH. Would we be able to join you briefly, although we will need to eat and leave earlier than would be deal?

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 12:05 Tue 28 May 2013

AHB wrote:Mrs A and I were put off our trip to Derbyshire by the poor weather forecast so will be visiting the British Museum today - handily located just round the corner from TBH. Would we be able to join you briefly, although we will need to eat and leave earlier than would be deal?

Please do!

Post by **jdaw1** » 14:25 Tue 28 May 2013

Thirst Factor Critical.

Nearly there.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 14:36 Tue 28 May 2013

Leaving shortly. Phone has arrived and has been charged.

Post by **jdaw1** » 14:46 Tue 28 May 2013

Having a beer upstairs.

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 16:37 Tue 28 May 2013

And we're having a pot of organic Earl Grey tea in Orchard, in Sicilian Avenue, in preparation for later tonight.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 16:50 Tue 28 May 2013

AHB wrote:And we're having a pot of organic Earl Grey tea in Orchard, in Sicilian Avenue, in preparation for later tonight.

We are here and we have started. Organic Earl Grey has many attractions. But join us.

Post by **jdaw1** » 16:50 Tue 28 May 2013

Two of us have started.

Post by **jdaw1** » 16:56 Tue 28 May 2013

And Daniel's homemade pork pie is grade-A excellent. That is what pork pie should be.

I'm about to eat Derek's portion.