Time for a 1985 horizontal?

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uncle tom
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Re: Time for a 1985 horizontal?

Post by uncle tom » 17:22 Sun 24 Nov 2013

I have:

Burmester
Calem
Churchill
Cockburn
Croft
Delaforce
Dow
Fonseca
Gonzalez, M
Gould Campbell
Graham
Martinez
Morgan
Niepoort
Noval
Pocas
Rebello Valente
Sabordella
Sandeman
Smith Woodhouse
Taylor
Warre

Notable absentees: Nacional, Offley, Quarles Harris & Ramos Pinto
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Re: Time for a 1985 horizontal?

Post by TLW » 00:30 Mon 25 Nov 2013

uncle tom wrote:I have:

Burmester
Calem
Churchill
Cockburn
Croft
Delaforce
Dow
Fonseca
Gonzalez, M
Gould Campbell
Graham
Martinez
Morgan
Niepoort
Noval
Pocas
Rebello Valente
Sabordella
Sandeman
Smith Woodhouse
Taylor
Warre

Notable absentees: Nacional, Offley, Quarles Harris & Ramos Pinto
Is the above list a suggestion that we hold the tasting at your house? :wink:

In any case, I am in if schedules match - might be through London in June or so. My 85s are all in the US, so would order up something from Davy's or BBR or some such.

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Re: Time for a 1985 horizontal?

Post by jdaw1 » 00:38 Mon 25 Nov 2013

TLW wrote:My 85s are all in the US, so would order up something from Davy's or BBR or some such.
Usual practice at such structured tastings, especially with such asymmetry of provision, is a financial rebalancing.

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Re: Time for a 1985 horizontal?

Post by uncle tom » 00:39 Mon 25 Nov 2013

Is the above list a suggestion that we hold the tasting at your house?
You've not seen my house then... :D
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Re: Time for a 1985 horizontal?

Post by jdaw1 » 00:45 Mon 25 Nov 2013

uncle tom wrote:Notable absentees: Nacional, Offley, Quarles Harris & Ramos Pinto
I had two bottles of NN85, and only remembered drinking one of them. That one was drunk in July 2006, and the one I didn’t drink somehow disappeared on Sat 17th March 2007. Sorry.

I also had lots of RP85 from Vickers’ Liquors at ≈$25 a bottle; alas departed to the Great White RP85 In The Sky. (Or down the drain.)

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Re: Time for a 1985 horizontal?

Post by jdaw1 » 01:01 Mon 25 Nov 2013

Of course, we will try to do as complete a horizontal as possible.

Known 1985 declarations:
  • A. Pinto dos Santos;
  • Andresen;
  • Barros;
  • Berry Brothers & Rudd Selection (perhaps same blend as Smith Woodhouse see below);
  • Borges & Irmão;
  • Burmester;
  • Cálem;
  • Churchill;
  • Cockburn;
  • Croft;
  • Dalva;
  • Delaforce;
  • Dow;
  • Feist;
  • Ferreira;
  • Feuerheerd;
  • Fonseca;
  • Gilberts;
  • Gonzalez Byass;
  • Gould Campbell;
  • Graham;
  • Hooper;
  • Hutcheson;
  • Kopke;
  • Krohn;
  • M. Gonzalez;
  • Martinez;
  • Messias;
  • Messias Quinta do Cachão;
  • Morgan;
  • Niepoort;
  • Offley Boa Vista;
  • Osborne;
  • Poças;
  • Quarles Harris;
  • Quinta da Romaneira;
  • Quinta do Crasto;
  • Quinta do Infantado;
  • Quinta do Noval;
  • Quinta do Noval Nacional;
  • Ramos-Pinto;
  • Robertson Rebello Valente;
  • Romariz;
  • Royal Oporto;
  • Rozès;
  • Sandeman;
  • Smith Woodhouse (perhaps same blend as Berry Brothers & Rudd Selection see below);
  • Souza;
  • Taylor;
  • Warre.
Possible 1985 declarations:
  • Barbosa;
  • Cálem Quinta da Foz;
  • Fonseca Quinta do Panascal;
  • Kopke Quinta São Luiz;
  • Magalhães;
  • Pousada Porto;
  • Quinta de Avidagos;
  • Quinta de Roriz;
  • Quinta do Bom Retiro Pequeno;
  • Quinta do Convento de São Pedro das Águias;
  • Seguro;
  • Skeffington;
  • Van Zeller.
So lots of declarations, and possibly more. We might need two sessions.

Extras:
  • Sabordella (from THRA’s list above);
  • Quinta do Sibio (see below).

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Re: Time for a 1985 horizontal?

Post by jdaw1 » 01:08 Mon 25 Nov 2013

Just noticed that
uncle tom has, so he wrote:Sabordella
which isn’t on my list.

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Re: Time for a 1985 horizontal?

Post by RAYC » 12:43 Mon 25 Nov 2013

jdaw1 wrote:Berry Brothers & Rudd Selection;
I'm not sure that the BBR B.o.B. (which is SW) counts as an individual declaration, but if so you should probably include the Mayor Sworder B.o.B / Quinta do Sibio that we tasted last year (link) and The Wine Society's offering (Martinez? - link)
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Re: Time for a 1985 horizontal?

Post by djewesbury » 12:45 Mon 25 Nov 2013

RAYC wrote:
jdaw1 wrote:Berry Brothers & Rudd Selection;
I'm not sure that the BBR B.o.B. (which is SW) counts as an individual declaration, but if so you should probably include the Mayor Sworder B.o.B / Quinta do Sibio that we tasted last year (link)
I am amazed you want to revisit that, going on your previous TN!
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Re: Time for a 1985 horizontal?

Post by jdaw1 » 12:48 Mon 25 Nov 2013

RAYC wrote:I'm not sure that the BBR B.o.B. (which is SW) counts as an individual declaration
Is Berry Bros & Rudd 1985 known to be the same Smith Woodhouse blend? If it is, I’ll add a few words to the list.

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Re: Time for a 1985 horizontal?

Post by RAYC » 14:50 Mon 25 Nov 2013

djewesbury wrote:
RAYC wrote:
jdaw1 wrote:Berry Brothers & Rudd Selection;
I'm not sure that the BBR B.o.B. (which is SW) counts as an individual declaration, but if so you should probably include the Mayor Sworder B.o.B / Quinta do Sibio that we tasted last year (link)
I am amazed you want to revisit that, going on your previous TN!
I'm not sure i ever expressed a desire to revisit this....i think you are putting words in my mouth!
jdaw1 wrote:
RAYC wrote:I'm not sure that the BBR B.o.B. (which is SW) counts as an individual declaration
Is Berry Bros & Rudd 1985 known to be the same Smith Woodhouse blend? If it is, I’ll add a few words to the list.
I hard thought it was relatively well known, yes (i thought i read it on this site, but couldn't find it on a quick search just now).
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Re: Time for a 1985 horizontal?

Post by jdaw1 » 15:04 Mon 25 Nov 2013

My list updated.

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Re: Time for a 1985 horizontal?

Post by PhilW » 15:16 Mon 25 Nov 2013

jdaw1 wrote:Possible 1985 declarations:...
  • Hooper;
I have seen several bottles of Hooper's 1985 over the last couple of years at auction, such as this.

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Re: Time for a 1985 horizontal?

Post by jdaw1 » 15:27 Mon 25 Nov 2013

PhilW wrote:I have seen several bottles of Hooper's 1985 over the last couple of years at auction, such as this.
Thank you. Post updated.

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