Apostrophe crimes

[Andy Velebil]

In general, absolutely correct not to challenge the officer. ‟Yes officer!”

Yeah, and don't you two forget that

[Glenn E.]

Andy speaks the truth!

In the US, at least, anything you say to a police officer can be used against you in court. The reverse, unfortunately, is not true - NOTHING that you say to the police officer can be used to HELP you.

So answer the officer's relevant* questions politely, but say nothing else.

* "Do you know how fast you were driving?" is not relevant at the time of the traffic stop. It's a trap. Simply look at the officer and blink innocently like you didn't understand the question.

[jdaw1]

* "Do you know how fast you were driving?" is not relevant at the time of the traffic stop. It's a trap. Simply look at the officer and blink innocently like you didn't understand the question.

‟Officer, I am sure that I was driving in a manner that was safe and courteous to other road users.”

Lying to an officer rarely makes friends. Saying something allows the officer to hear an English accent might be worth a go.

[g-man]

Andy speaks the truth!

In the US, at least, anything you say to a police officer can be used against you in court. The reverse, unfortunately, is not true - NOTHING that you say to the police officer can be used to HELP you.

So answer the officer's relevant* questions politely, but say nothing else.

* "Do you know how fast you were driving?" is not relevant at the time of the traffic stop. It's a trap. Simply look at the officer and blink innocently like you didn't understand the question.

I always say "Why was I pulled over? I thought I was going the speed limit"

[Glenn E.]

I always say "Why was I pulled over? I thought I was going the speed limit"

In one local municipality here in Washington that could get you slapped with "Inattention to Driving" which carries a $250 fine. What? You admitted that you didn't know you were speeding, ergo you weren't paying attention.

Seriously. Anything you say can be used against you if presented (im)properly. So don't say anything that you aren't required to say. In fact, one traffic attorney out here has the following printed on the back of her business cards for her clients to have handy just in case:

To Law Enforcement:
1. I have provided you with my driver's license, registration, and proof of insurance;
2. I will not be answering any questions or making any statements;
3. I will not be volunteering to perform field sobriety tests, or blowing in a PBT; but I will blow in a BAC machine at the station if you have probable cause to arrest me.
4. If I am not under arrest, I wish to leave, otherwise I wish to speak to my lawyer immediately.

[jdaw1]

Not an apostrophe crime, but to avoid hijacking Roy’s hijack, posted here.

Tom also wrote:

It's easy to presume that Sogrape are just too greedy, and would rather forego the business than compete with the Symingtons and TFP; but given that they sell a lot of Ruby to France, which is the most meagre market from a profit standpoint, that doesn't stack up..

Sogrape are (... is ... calling JDW for judgement ) too greedy you say?

Guessing that ‟JDW” is JDAW is me, I think either is acceptable. Sogrape itself, a singular entity; or the management of Sogrape, being a plurality of people.

[Roy Hersh]

Sogrape are too greedy ... just sounds wrong. I like "is" better in that sentence. YMMV.

Thank you for your esteemed opinion Mr. Wiseman!

[jdaw1]

Whats the next accent you've got line up?

I was thinking that it’s almost time for a G-breve: Äž, the lowercase version of which is found in the name of the Turkish prime minister. (And that’s ignoring Andy’s wrong tense.)

[KillerB]

Sogrape is an entity, the management is an entity, 'Sogrape is too greedy' is correct (from a grammatical point of view, I have no idea about the reality).

This can be confirmed by considering a group structure, I go back a long way so I will take The Skids. If you say 'The Skids are Scottish', this is acceptable because the plural implies that each member is an individual 'Skid', but 'The Skids is a Scottish band' is also acceptable because we are dealing with an entity of the band. 'Ultravox is an electronic band' is correct as we are dealing with an entity whilst 'Ultravox are electronic' is just wrong, in so many ways.

The link, for those that are interested, is that Midge Ure is also Scottish and produced a Skids track. I know you don't care but humour me.

[Andy Velebil]

Whats the next accent you've got line up?

I was thinking that it’s almost time for a G-breve: Äž, the lowercase version of which is found in the name of the Turkish prime minister. (And that’s ignoring Andy’s wrong tense.)

That's what happens when I post sober...must have more Port before typing

[Alex Bridgeman]

I was thinking that it’s almost time for a G-breve: Äž...

Does this mean that you will start up a new thread called "Äž - G-breve crimes"? I don't anticipate that it will grow very quickly.

[jdaw1]

It might grow with a discussion about how quickly it will grow.

Hence my use of this thread for general pedantic errors of a grammatical or typographic nature, especially apostrophe crimes.

[jdaw1]

Annoyance. The US Immigration people, currently in possession of things relating to my Green Card, have written requesting further ‟evidence of a good faith marriage”. Is that really what they want? Proof that we are raising our children in a religious manner, and that our marriage is in other ways ‟good”? Church every Sunday, prayers every night. No hard liquor. How strange. One might have expected, in a less ecclesiastical country, ‟evidence of a good-faith marriage”. Which would be completely different.

I have not drawn the attention of the INS to this error.

[benread]

Would two children be sufficent evidence?! Do they require you to send them the evidence or just evidence of it?!

[Alex Bridgeman]

I have not drawn the attention of the INS to this error.

One could suggest that this, in itself, is an act of good-faith

[jdaw1]

an act of good-faith

Well, it might have been an act of good faith (or a good-faith act), but it wasn’t. Rather, it suggests that I fear vindictiveness.

[JacobH]

Annoyance. The US Immigration people, currently in possession of things relating to my Green Card, have written requesting further ‟evidence of a good faith marriage”. Is that really what they want? Proof that we are raising our children in a religious manner, and that our marriage is in other ways ‟good”? Church every Sunday, prayers every night. No hard liquor. How strange. One might have expected, in a less ecclesiastical country, ‟evidence of a good-faith marriage”. Which would be completely different.

I have not drawn the attention of the INS to this error.

Perhaps it is a symptom of an overly-literal translation of the phrase bona fide?

[jdaw1]

There are Wisemans in many towns - not particularly that one. So no.

I haven’t yet mastered typing an em-dash (‟ ”) on an iPhone.

[KillerB]

There are Wisemans in many towns - not particularly that one. So no.

I haven’t yet mastered typing an em-dash (‟ ”) on an iPhone.

You must be desolated.

[jdaw1]

OK - AHBs guess is too far in the past.

[jdaw1]

The Malvedos blog is wonderful! I've posted many times about it on . The Symington's, Miles Edlmann, Henry Shotton, and the rest of the Symington staff are doing a great job of updating it several times a day. Talk about get current up to date information from the front lines.

Many kudo's go to the Symington's for keeping it focused for us uber Port geeks to enjoy

There are at least three apostrophe crimes in this even allowing for the etymologically dodgy new-fangled singular ‟kudo”.

[Andy Velebil]

Someone has to keep you on your toes

[jdaw1]

However, the 1970 was quite simply "not ready" and showed much younger in comparison to it's not much older siblings.

[JacobH]

Although not an apostrophe crime, I feel disappointed that jdaw1 hasn't picked up on the three references to "daylight savings time" in this thread.

[KillerB]

Although not an apostrophe crime, I feel disappointed that jdaw1 hasn't picked up on the three references to "daylight savings time" in this thread.

Not an apostrophe crime and not grammatically incorrect as savings can be made. Where you are going to put your daylight savings and whether they will accrue interest is another matter.

[JacobH]

Not an apostrophe crime and not grammatically incorrect as savings can be made. Where you are going to put your daylight savings and whether they will accrue interest is another matter.

Fair point. Where you do put yours?

[KillerB]

The supermarket was Sainsbury, but only the one in Camberley as far as I could tell, and it was about 3-4 years ago - just after Christmas in their wine clearance sale. I also picked up a half bottle of Y'quem '01 for £50 from the same supermarket.

Taken from here.

The crime is that AHB is talking about one of the great wines of the World - Chateau d'Yquem. Oh the shame.

[jdaw1]

The Bell, Wenden's Ambo, CB11 4JY

[jdaw1]

In a city renowned for it's heritage, the Parliament House Hotel has it's own extensive history.

[jdaw1]

Articles of Association.

This gives details of the company’s internal management affairs, the running of the company and it’s liability..

[jdaw1]

Very impressive and still years from it's peak. 94/199.

Cool scoring system.

[Glenn E.]

jdaw1 is not alone.

Bob the Angry Flower

[Alex Bridgeman]

Very impressive and still years from it's peak. 94/199.

Cool scoring system.

A moderately irritating feature of the iPhone's otherwise excellent spell check on entry capabilities is that it insists on adding an apostrophe between it and s regardless of the context. I can only apologise for having missed this one (and for the fat fingers hitting the 9 instead of the 0).

[jdaw1]

otherwise it's main value would be as an unusual curiosity

Presumably an iPhone problem the post was signed ‟Alwx”.

[jdaw1]

(Mod's, may be best to split this into it's own topic)

[jdaw1]

Tawny's work the best for this

also done it with younger VP's as well

old VP's though.

[Alex Bridgeman]

Some advice and guidance is required to avoid a potential apostrophe crime. How should "shall not" be contracted?

[jdaw1]

1. Why contract? Is there a good reason? If not, don’t.
2. Anyway, shan’t (ignore Wikipedia’s vocabulary error), as in I shan’t be drinking 1975s.

[Alex Bridgeman]

1. Why contract? Is there a good reason? If not, don’t.
2. Anyway, shan’t (ignore Wikipedia’s vocabulary error), as in I shan’t be drinking 1975s.

1) Reporting speech, the word used was the contraction of shall not.
2) The question arose as PG Wodehouse uses sha'n't - and I can see why; but I presume from your reply that sha'n't is now considered archaic.

[jdaw1]

Of the very old colheita's and tawny's I've had

[DRT]

Of the very old colheita's and tawny's I've had

I thought there was a rule that members who's first language isn't English would not be prosecuted for apostrophe crimes?

[jdaw1]

I thought there was a rule that members who's first language isn't English

[Andy Velebil]

I thought there was a rule that members who's first language isn't English would not be prosecuted for apostrophe crimes?

What he said I think

[jdaw1]

Graham's recently claimed to have Colheita's as far back as the mid to late 1800s

[DRT]

Graham's recently claimed to have Colheita's as far back as the mid to late 1800s

[Andy Velebil]

Can we include grammer issues here too?

by jdaw1
Roy, you have form for wanting to look and smell at the just the time that busy folk are fetching and carrying and putting out and generally busy being busy.

[jdaw1]

grammer

And spelling?

Please, what was my error in the above?

[Andy Velebil]

at the just the time

And i've never said my spelling was very good

[jdaw1]

I failed to see the duplicated ‘the’. Ooops. I think that’s typing rather than grammar, but an error nonetheless.

[JacobH]

Graham's recently claimed to have Colheita's as far back as the mid to late 1800s

To quote, verbatim, DRT: I thought there was a rule that members who's first language isn't English would not be prosecuted for apostrophe crimes?