1992 Taylor
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1992 Taylor vintage port
Of all the vintages commented on last year, none seems to have had quite as bad a press as 1992 - I don't think I saw a single rave review of a wine from that year.
I only opened one '92 at home last year - a Vesuvio - and was far from impressed.
Despite that, the wines carry a premium in the market, mainly on the back of some excited comments when the wines were first released.
No wine attracted more acclaim than the Taylor - although Broadbent was not impressed.
So, with fifteen bottles in the cellar, I decided to tackle one, and see how it's faring at age sixteen.
Decanted at 4.30pm - very dark and almost black in the decanter - yet only a small amount of soupy sediment.
First sip - rather sullen bouquet - on the palate it seems closed still and very tannic, with the trademark Taylor 'bite'. Much too young still, I think.
More anon.
Tom
I only opened one '92 at home last year - a Vesuvio - and was far from impressed.
Despite that, the wines carry a premium in the market, mainly on the back of some excited comments when the wines were first released.
No wine attracted more acclaim than the Taylor - although Broadbent was not impressed.
So, with fifteen bottles in the cellar, I decided to tackle one, and see how it's faring at age sixteen.
Decanted at 4.30pm - very dark and almost black in the decanter - yet only a small amount of soupy sediment.
First sip - rather sullen bouquet - on the palate it seems closed still and very tannic, with the trademark Taylor 'bite'. Much too young still, I think.
More anon.
Tom
I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I shall be sober and you will still be ugly - W.S. Churchill
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Six hours on..
This is a brooding wine by any standards, and very young - I feel I'm being told off for opening it too soon.
I have the feeling that it's only half way to mature, if that - 2020 might be way too soon..
However, despite great long term potential, it does not show well for the here and now - I just compared it to a Tesco ruby..
..it won, but not by a landslide.
Tom
This is a brooding wine by any standards, and very young - I feel I'm being told off for opening it too soon.
I have the feeling that it's only half way to mature, if that - 2020 might be way too soon..
However, despite great long term potential, it does not show well for the here and now - I just compared it to a Tesco ruby..
..it won, but not by a landslide.
Tom
I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I shall be sober and you will still be ugly - W.S. Churchill
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24 hours on and I have to report that I'm not hugely impressed by this one.
It is far too young, and being somewhat tannin-averse, that does make me mark it down from the point of view of immediate gratification.
But there is also something 'not quite right' here - the wine is extremely dark in appearance, yet seems to lack substance, and is somewhat hollow. The finish is far from satisfying.
I sense there is a risk that this wine will not come right, that it might follow the lead of some 77's and do a Peter Pan act - grow old before it grows up. But only time will tell.
For now I will give it some benefit of the doubt, and score it 3-7
Tom
It is far too young, and being somewhat tannin-averse, that does make me mark it down from the point of view of immediate gratification.
But there is also something 'not quite right' here - the wine is extremely dark in appearance, yet seems to lack substance, and is somewhat hollow. The finish is far from satisfying.
I sense there is a risk that this wine will not come right, that it might follow the lead of some 77's and do a Peter Pan act - grow old before it grows up. But only time will tell.
For now I will give it some benefit of the doubt, and score it 3-7
Tom
I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I shall be sober and you will still be ugly - W.S. Churchill
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Tom, anytime you want to trade some 92 Taylor's for any 91, anytime!!!
For me 92 Taylor is the most perfect young port I have ever tasted with Nacional 2000. That it is showing so young right now is just one proof of its quality to withstand time. The balance and the depth in this wine is huge. I agree on the maturity, I think 2020 is a good time to start popping the bottles if you have only a couple.
92 did not receive so much bad press. It was questionable to release in 92 instead of 91 for a few houses. A few did loby in favor of 91 because they had to sell but a few years later the tasting proved 92 winner. Even those SQVP are getting better rates from today's tasting than 91 from the same producer.
For me 92 Taylor is the most perfect young port I have ever tasted with Nacional 2000. That it is showing so young right now is just one proof of its quality to withstand time. The balance and the depth in this wine is huge. I agree on the maturity, I think 2020 is a good time to start popping the bottles if you have only a couple.
92 did not receive so much bad press. It was questionable to release in 92 instead of 91 for a few houses. A few did loby in favor of 91 because they had to sell but a few years later the tasting proved 92 winner. Even those SQVP are getting better rates from today's tasting than 91 from the same producer.
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Fred,
As I wrap up this decanter, I have to observe that this wine is not in the same class as, say, a Graham '91
But rather than argue the point, this is the perfect subject for a blind offline - let me know when you're next in this part of the world..
..and choose your weapons!
Tom
As I wrap up this decanter, I have to observe that this wine is not in the same class as, say, a Graham '91
But rather than argue the point, this is the perfect subject for a blind offline - let me know when you're next in this part of the world..
..and choose your weapons!
Tom
I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I shall be sober and you will still be ugly - W.S. Churchill
Tom: could the hollowness have been a bottle-specific imperf
Tom: could the hollowness have been a bottle-specific imperfection?
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While there is often some variance between bottles, I did not suspect a duff bottle here.could the hollowness have been a bottle-specific imperfection
It filled out a little after my last observation, and was noticeably better at 32 hours. However, at 48 hours the finish was getting very coarse.
Tom
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I would be happy to release you of those bottles as well Tom.Frederick Blais wrote:Tom, anytime you want to trade some 92 Taylor's for any 91, anytime!!!
If a young Taylor's is unpleasant to drink, that's always a good sign IMO. Taylor is one of the few producers that really should be left alone for a long time, and that can act very strange when young.