1985 Churchill

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1985 Churchill

Post by jdaw1 » 17:46 Fri 23 Oct 2009

A small tasting, with Glenn E. and his family, at Au Relais des Buttes-Chaumont, 86 rue Compans, Paris 19ème.

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Re: 1985 Churchill

Post by jdaw1 » 17:54 Fri 23 Oct 2009

1985 Churchill, at D+1hr: lovely dark quite opaque colour. Nose still closed. To taste big: lots of heat, lots of sweetness, lots of red fruit. Still too young. A hint of vegetable woodiness the only imperfection. Not of the very first rank, but as good a non-Fonseca port as was made in ’85. And at £16 per bottle (I bought the only case), who is to complain.

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Re: 1985 Churchill

Post by g-man » 19:08 Fri 23 Oct 2009

jdaw1 wrote:1985 Churchill, at D+1hr: lovely dark quite opaque colour. Nose still closed. To taste big: lots of heat, lots of sweetness, lots of red fruit. Still too young. A hint of vegetable woodiness the only imperfection. Not of the very first rank, but as good a non-Fonseca port as was made in ’85. And at £16 per bottle (I bought the only case), who is to complain.
mm Well worth it at 30$/bottle?
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Re: 1985 Churchill

Post by Glenn E. » 16:35 Sat 24 Oct 2009

g-man wrote:mm Well worth it at 30$/bottle?
Absolutely. A significantly better deal for $30/bottle than the 1970 Royal Oporto that I picked up for that price, and I'm quite happy with the RO70.

I was ultimately able to convince JDAW that the G85 might also be superior to the Churchill too. :wink: He is right that it is far better than you might expect, though, especially for $30/bottle.
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Re: 1985 Churchill

Post by jdaw1 » 17:46 Sat 24 Oct 2009

It is very fine port. Not the best of its year (F85, of course, but also G85 and long-decanted D85 are better), but will stand up to any other ’85.

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Re: 1985 Churchill

Post by jdaw1 » 21:52 Sat 24 Oct 2009

1985 Churchill: ‟red red dark red”, I wrote, which is always hopeful, as is ‟75%ile opaque”. Very rich and unctuous. Full sticky sugar. Plums purple fruit rather than red. Mid-weight, perhaps, and no long.

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Re: 1985 Churchill

Post by Andy Velebil » 19:28 Sun 25 Oct 2009

I had this for the first time at Churchill's Lodge this month and I must say I was very impressed with one of Johnny Graham's first VP's. While it isn't a Fonseca 85, it is still very solid and has a number of years to go before it peaks, then holds there for some time. At that price a no brainer for a case for sure!

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Re: 1985 Churchill

Post by Glenn E. » 19:01 Thu 29 Oct 2009

1985 Churchill Vintage Port
Color: no note due to poor lighting.
Nose: very purple with some mild warmth and a faint, unknown richness. A very slightly tangy note might be contributing to that richness.
Palate: very smooth and very purple (possibly plums) with red raspberry overtones. I wish I'd had good light to see it, because it smells and tastes very young for a 1985. Medium sweet and a light body. Good tannins and acidity. Not as massive and robust as the F85, not as elegant and refined as the G85, not as balanced as the D85. But a lot of producers would kill just to be compared to those three.
Finish: starts out red with significant heat following. Fairly tangy also, but mellows quickly. Good length, but not nearly as long as the KL70.

Score: 92. This is still peaking and needs another 10 years. It's going to get nicer with more time.
Glenn Elliott

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