It was still visible so I have used my mystical powers to delete it.benread wrote: I think I have ended it by changing the "run poll for" from 0 days to 1 day. Tell me if it has not worked.
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Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
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Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
In a fit of enthusiasm and anticipation for this coming Vesuvio vertical, I had a quick trawl through the vintages which people have identified that they have available, and come up with the following list:
DRT - 1994, 1996, 1997
WS1 - 1999, 2000, 2003, 2005
ARK - 1996 (having drunk all his 1994)
CMAG - will buy to fill gaps, I suggest the very impressive 1998
Cookie - none identified
Kevin - none identified
BMHR - none identified
JGH - none identified
AHB - I have one of each of the following easily on hand 1989, 1990, 1991, 1994, 1996, 1997, 2005, 2006, 2007 (2 of this vintage)
So we could have a line up of:
1994 - DRT
1996 - ARK
1998 - CMAG (to buy)
2003 - WS1
2006 - AHB (this is the vintage when I was in the lagares)
and I would recommend combining these with 1991, 1992, 1995 and 2000 if the folks not already declared can get hold of these particular vintages.
Alex
DRT - 1994, 1996, 1997
WS1 - 1999, 2000, 2003, 2005
ARK - 1996 (having drunk all his 1994)
CMAG - will buy to fill gaps, I suggest the very impressive 1998
Cookie - none identified
Kevin - none identified
BMHR - none identified
JGH - none identified
AHB - I have one of each of the following easily on hand 1989, 1990, 1991, 1994, 1996, 1997, 2005, 2006, 2007 (2 of this vintage)
So we could have a line up of:
1994 - DRT
1996 - ARK
1998 - CMAG (to buy)
2003 - WS1
2006 - AHB (this is the vintage when I was in the lagares)
and I would recommend combining these with 1991, 1992, 1995 and 2000 if the folks not already declared can get hold of these particular vintages.
Alex
Top Ports in 2023: Taylor 1896 Colheita, b. 2021. A perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
Subject to us being able to track down the missing vintages, can anyone think of a good reason not to make this a complete vertical from 1989 to 2007? I can't.
I will happily bring all three of 1994, 1996 and 1997 to help make this happen.
Derek
I will happily bring all three of 1994, 1996 and 1997 to help make this happen.
Derek
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
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Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
Even with Capela only eighteen bottles (no ’93 nor ’02, and excluding 1815 and 1863), amongst as many as nine people.DRT wrote:Subject to us being able to track down the missing vintages, can anyone think of a good reason not to make this a complete vertical from 1989 to 2007? I can't.
Some whingers will doubtless comment on it being a school night, but no attention should be paid to them.
Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
Current draft of the placemats, assuming the full tasting. If any vintages need to be deleted then shame on you.
Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
Excellent. Thanks.jdaw1 wrote:Current draft of the placemats, assuming the full tasting. If any vintages need to be deleted then shame on you.
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
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Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
Alex,AHB wrote:In a fit of enthusiasm and anticipation for this coming Vesuvio vertical, I had a quick trawl through the vintages which people have identified that they have available, and come up with the following list:
DRT - 1994, 1996, 1997
WS1 - 1999, 2000, 2003, 2005
ARK - 1996 (having drunk all his 1994)
CMAG - will buy to fill gaps, I suggest the very impressive 1998
Cookie - none identified
Kevin - none identified
BMHR - none identified
JGH - none identified
AHB - I have one of each of the following easily on hand 1989, 1990, 1991, 1994, 1996, 1997, 2005, 2006, 2007 (2 of this vintage)
So we could have a line up of:
1994 - DRT
1996 - ARK
1998 - CMAG (to buy)
2003 - WS1
2006 - AHB (this is the vintage when I was in the lagares)
and I would recommend combining these with 1991, 1992, 1995 and 2000 if the folks not already declared can get hold of these particular vintages.
Alex
I suspect you knew the reaction you would get from JDAW1 when you drafted this! I am in the 'acquire' camp as well, but I am fairly sure with a month or so it can be done. A quick look finds 2000, 1995 and 1992 immediately. I shall acquire some 2000 as my contribution.
Given the progress we have made, I shall also book TCP today. I think we will need two tunnels for this number.
Ben
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Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=32458#p32458]Here[/url] jdaw1 wrote:Source: you. Have you no more? If I do attend (which is unlikely), then of course. However, I will be at that cellar on Fri 29th Jan, and could collect it to be given to an attendee of the V vertical. Maybe this conversation should be held elsewhere.AHB wrote:But I would agree that the Vesuvio '92 would be a fine port to drink at the Vesuvio vertical - are you attending?Depends on that other conversation.AHB wrote:If you are not attending on Feb 23 then leave the V92 in the population since it is unlikely that we will have a bottle of this vintage since no-one else has said they have one.
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Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
Yes - it's excessive and would lead to bad habits being formed. People might start to think that it was normal to hold complete verticals and start applying that principal to other shippers, such as Vargellas or Malvedos.DRT wrote:Subject to us being able to track down the missing vintages, can anyone think of a good reason not to make this a complete vertical from 1989 to 2007?
Top Ports in 2023: Taylor 1896 Colheita, b. 2021. A perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
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Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
I do have other bottles of the 1992 vintage, but they are all in bond in unbroken cases. With enough notice, I could get one of the 6 packs out of storage but would rather not do so if someone else is able to buy a single bottle from a wine merchant.jdaw1 wrote:[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=32458#p32458]Here[/url] jdaw1 wrote:Source: you. Have you no more? If I do attend (which is unlikely), then of course. However, I will be at that cellar on Fri 29th Jan, and could collect it to be given to an attendee of the V vertical. Maybe this conversation should be held elsewhere.AHB wrote:But I would agree that the Vesuvio '92 would be a fine port to drink at the Vesuvio vertical - are you attending?Depends on that other conversation.AHB wrote:If you are not attending on Feb 23 then leave the V92 in the population since it is unlikely that we will have a bottle of this vintage since no-one else has said they have one.
The vintage I am most reluctant to attack is the 1989, I only have a couple of bottles left and would rather use these for a more formal and better attended Vesuvio vertical. The 23rd was, after all, intended to be an informal and relaxed event and not one of our over-the-top massive tastings.
So I go back to the point that I think we should be aiming for 1 bottle each, some good company and a relaxed evening with some decent port to sup. I'll leave Jacob to organise the excesses when we taste the rather magnificent Malvedos vertical he has managed to assemble.
Top Ports in 2023: Taylor 1896 Colheita, b. 2021. A perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
I'm struggling to see where your argument is going. Are you agreeing to my suggestion? Great, I knew you would like it.AHB wrote:Yes - it's excessive and would lead to bad habits being formed. People might start to think that it was normal to hold complete verticals and start applying that principal to other shippers, such as Vargellas or Malvedos.DRT wrote:Subject to us being able to track down the missing vintages, can anyone think of a good reason not to make this a complete vertical from 1989 to 2007?
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
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Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
That’s because you haven’t seen the clue he left us.DRT wrote:I'm struggling to see where your argument is going. Are you agreeing to my suggestion? Great, I knew you would like it.
If he was being sincere, he would, of course, have said ‟principle”. The homonym was a deliberate mis-direction, winking at the attentive but mis-leading the careless. Relax: AHB knows he wants the whole thing, and is subtly telling us so. Perhaps the subtlety is because Mrs Vesuvio reads .AHB wrote:People might start to think that it was normal to hold complete verticals and start applying that principal to other shippers, such as Vargellas or Malvedos.
And if it was just a careless error, his punishment is to attend a complete Vesuvio vertical. There are worse punishments.
Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
Julian, Derek,
despite its appeal I think we should not do a full Vesuvio vertical (18bts). I am getting older and have to work the next day
Alex,
on the other hand would you not certainly agree we have to open all 18 bts if we had 18 participants? Another collegue of mine, Adam, would also if still possible like to join us. He loves Port and the crusting Pipe
Kevin and Adam would/can adpot bts from me if required. May I ask why you are not so fond of the 2005? I like this Vesuvio very much!
Hope this possible.
regards
WS1
despite its appeal I think we should not do a full Vesuvio vertical (18bts). I am getting older and have to work the next day
Alex,
on the other hand would you not certainly agree we have to open all 18 bts if we had 18 participants? Another collegue of mine, Adam, would also if still possible like to join us. He loves Port and the crusting Pipe
Kevin and Adam would/can adpot bts from me if required. May I ask why you are not so fond of the 2005? I like this Vesuvio very much!
Hope this possible.
regards
WS1
"Sometimes too much to drink is barely enough"
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Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
I have nothing against the 2005 vintage - in fact, I do quite like it. The reason that I was suggesting it be left out was for no other reason than we might otherwise end up with too many very recent vintages.WS1 wrote:May I ask why you are not so fond of the 2005? I like this Vesuvio very much!
Top Ports in 2023: Taylor 1896 Colheita, b. 2021. A perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
The tasting is indeed predominately vintages ≥1989. You should balance it by including the other two vintages made” .AHB wrote:we might otherwise end up with too many very recent vintages.
” 1815 and 1863. Side-by-side, I have never once preferred the ’15.
Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
I agree. We have set our sights too low by limiting this tasting to 1989 to 2007. Thank you JDAW for bringing this to our attention.jdaw1 wrote:The tasting is indeed predominately vintages ≥1989. You should balance it by including the other two vintages made” .AHB wrote:we might otherwise end up with too many very recent vintages.
” 1815 and 1863. Side-by-side, I have never once preferred the ’15.
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
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Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
Details updated. The Crusting Pipe is now booked. I shall leave discussion regarding the extent of our tasting to JDAW1, DRT and AHB!
Ben
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Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
Could I just declare my position on this tasting...I believe I fall into the category of 'having to adopt' so happy to fill the space on which ever is needed.
Thanks
Cookie
Thanks
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Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
Ben --
If there is space, I would be interested in attending.
Thanks
If there is space, I would be interested in attending.
Thanks
Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
Chris,Chris Doty wrote:Ben --
If there is space, I would be interested in attending.
Thanks
Welcome to TPF - I think you will create a new record for attendance at offlines in your first month a TPF contributor if you make everything you have volunteered for! I have amended the 1st post in this thread to indicate your attendance. We are yet to declare what we are bringing, so if you have any Vesuvio, declare now!
See you on 1st (unlikely for me now), 11th or 23rd February!
Ben
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Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
Thanks, Ben.
I was thinking I'd bring the 1995, unless folks feel that's too young.
I was thinking I'd bring the 1995, unless folks feel that's too young.
Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
No one else has declared an easy supply of the 1995 so I will leave AHB to amend this post to reflect the fact you can supply this vintage.Chris Doty wrote:Thanks, Ben.
I was thinking I'd bring the 1995, unless folks feel that's too young.
Given the number of us, it is likely we will have younger vintages to taste - all in the name of science of course!
Ben
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Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
Hi Ben,
please also add id possible Adam a collegue of mine as attempted before. So we would be already 11
regards
WS1
please also add id possible Adam a collegue of mine as attempted before. So we would be already 11
regards
WS1
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Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
WS1,WS1 wrote:Hi Ben,
please also add id possible Adam a collegue of mine as attempted before. So we would be already 11
regards
WS1
Apologies - I missed the original comment in the thread. Now done in appropriate order. Glad I booked both tunnels!
Ben
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Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
Post above now updated againAHB wrote:In a fit of enthusiasm and anticipation for this coming Vesuvio vertical, I had a quick trawl through the vintages which people have identified that they have available, and come up with the following list:
DRT - 1994, 1996, 1997
WS1 - 1999, 2000, 2003, 2005
ARK - 1996 (having drunk all his 1994)
CMAG - will buy to fill gaps, I suggest the very impressive 1998
Cookie - none identified
Kevin - none identified
BMHR - none identified
JGH - none identified
AHB - I have one of each of the following easily on hand 1990, 1991, 1994, 1996, 1997, 2005, 2006, 2007 (2 of this vintage)
Adam - none identified
Chris Doty - 1995
So we could have a line up of:
1990 - Cookie to adopt from AHB
1991 - ClawHit
1994 - DRT
1995 - Chris Doty
1996 - ARK
1997 - JGH to adopt from DRT
1998 - CMAG (to buy from BBR)
1999 - Adam to adopt from WS1
2000 - BMHR to buy
2003 - WS1
2005 - Kevin to adopt from WS1
2006 - AHB (this is the vintage when I was in the lagares)
tba - ClawHit's +1
Alex
Last edited by Alex Bridgeman on 22:44 Sun 07 Feb 2010, edited 1 time in total.
Top Ports in 2023: Taylor 1896 Colheita, b. 2021. A perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.