NY Tasting -- Sat Nov 14 (Vintage Oddities at 30)
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NY Tasting -- Sat Nov 14 (Vintage Oddities at 30)
Vintage Oddities at 30: NYC Nov 14 2010
Tasting Review
1975 Ferreira Vintage Port
1983 Niepoort Vintage Port
1984 Dow's Quinta do Bomfim Vintage Port
Organization
Placemats
When: November 14, 2010, 6pm.
Where: Beacon Restaurant, 25 West 56th Street, New York, NY 10019 (Reservation made)*.
Attendees (5): SushiNorth, g-man+1, dolcetours+1 (please respond asap so i can make us a reservation)
Theme:
[*] Option1: 1983 (with surprises welcome)
[*] Option2: Unusual Eighties
Wines TBD
* The restaurant makes a point that it's dresscode is "smart casual"
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There will be a tasting in NY on Sat Nov 13.
Y is away on business, I haven't had enough port recently, and it's mid Nov.
Theme & Location suggestions please?
Tasting Review
1975 Ferreira Vintage Port
1983 Niepoort Vintage Port
1984 Dow's Quinta do Bomfim Vintage Port
Organization
Placemats
When: November 14, 2010, 6pm.
Where: Beacon Restaurant, 25 West 56th Street, New York, NY 10019 (Reservation made)*.
Attendees (5): SushiNorth, g-man+1, dolcetours+1 (please respond asap so i can make us a reservation)
Theme:
[*] Option1: 1983 (with surprises welcome)
[*] Option2: Unusual Eighties
Wines TBD
* The restaurant makes a point that it's dresscode is "smart casual"
----------------Orig below ------------------
There will be a tasting in NY on Sat Nov 13.
Y is away on business, I haven't had enough port recently, and it's mid Nov.
Theme & Location suggestions please?
Last edited by SushiNorth on 05:28 Mon 15 Nov 2010, edited 2 times in total.
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Re: NY Tasting -- Sat Nov 13.
How about a Magnum party and divide the cost difference so there is not too much port?
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Re: NY Tasting -- Sat Nov 13.
okay what magnums are we going to get?
http://www.malloysfinest.com/sku33134.html
83 smith woodhouse
http://www.klwines.com/detail.asp?sku=1 ... nesearcher
83 grahams
http://www.beekmanwine.com/
85 warres
http://www.chambersstwines.com/
85 grahams
http://www.malloysfinest.com/sku33134.html
83 smith woodhouse
http://www.klwines.com/detail.asp?sku=1 ... nesearcher
83 grahams
http://www.beekmanwine.com/
85 warres
http://www.chambersstwines.com/
85 grahams
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Re: NY Tasting -- Sat Nov 13.
I'm not sure i see the point of a magnum party...
80's are far too young for them (they age more slowly than regular bottles) and we've only got four people interested in attending. That's about 2 mags.
with full bottles, we get to taste 4-5 bottles, with half-bottles, 8-9.
80's are far too young for them (they age more slowly than regular bottles) and we've only got four people interested in attending. That's about 2 mags.
with full bottles, we get to taste 4-5 bottles, with half-bottles, 8-9.
Re: NY Tasting -- Sat Nov 13.
the 83s were kinda weak and drinking well now
why not he SW and the Grahams with some steaks.
why not he SW and the Grahams with some steaks.
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Re: NY Tasting -- Sat Nov 13.
Well, an alternative might be 83's and steaks. I have plenty of SW83 750 bottles, at about 1/4 the price of that mag, but i ALSO have an 83 Niepoort that i've been waiting to open...g-man wrote:the 83s were kinda weak and drinking well now
why not he SW and the Grahams with some steaks.
Re: NY Tasting -- Sat Nov 13.
83 party sounds good.
Price of admission is to have a mullet.
Price of admission is to have a mullet.
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Re: NY Tasting -- Sat Nov 13.
, legwarmers, a skinny tie, or skinny jeans. (or all of the above)g-man wrote:Price of admission is to have a mullet
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Re: NY Tasting -- Sat Nov 13.
Yes, for Nov 13. My husband is definitely interested, and I might come too, if I don’t go to the American Wine Society conference that weekend in Cincinnati.
Meanwhile, on other subjects you raised:
I have a half bottle of 2007 Taylor in the cellar, but that’s it. Beyond that, we’d have to go shopping.
For ideas for the future:
Do you ever do tawnies? Personally, I’d love a survey of 20 Year Olds, my favorite (affordable) category.
And how about something that looks at the new generation of Port houses that emerged upstream following the 1986 change in regulations? Places like Quinta do Tedo, our friend Quevedo, Body + Soul, Passadouro, and others? (If we can’t find their Ports in NYC, perhaps Claudio and I could pick up a mixed case when we’re on tour in Oporto next spring and everyone attending that session could chip to pay for the wine & shipping.)
Finally, for the Dow tasting, I’m willing to host in the late winter ”“ say, the latter half of February (after a flurry of writing deadlines settles down). I have a Brooklyn brownstone apartment, so the most we can host is 11 or 12, including me and Claudio. But I don’t know if that’s too small for this Port group, not having attended anything yet!
Meanwhile, on other subjects you raised:
I have a half bottle of 2007 Taylor in the cellar, but that’s it. Beyond that, we’d have to go shopping.
For ideas for the future:
Do you ever do tawnies? Personally, I’d love a survey of 20 Year Olds, my favorite (affordable) category.
And how about something that looks at the new generation of Port houses that emerged upstream following the 1986 change in regulations? Places like Quinta do Tedo, our friend Quevedo, Body + Soul, Passadouro, and others? (If we can’t find their Ports in NYC, perhaps Claudio and I could pick up a mixed case when we’re on tour in Oporto next spring and everyone attending that session could chip to pay for the wine & shipping.)
Finally, for the Dow tasting, I’m willing to host in the late winter ”“ say, the latter half of February (after a flurry of writing deadlines settles down). I have a Brooklyn brownstone apartment, so the most we can host is 11 or 12, including me and Claudio. But I don’t know if that’s too small for this Port group, not having attended anything yet!
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Re: NY Tasting -- Sat Nov 13.
Hi! Welcome!!! So happy to have more port tasters in NY.
Generally the way we do the tastings, we split the cost of the wines by everyone bringing a relatively comparable bottle. Now, in situations where folks don't have a bottle, they contact someone else coming who has announced they have multiple bottles in the category, and the two do some kind of private arrangement ("adopt a bottle"). 1983 is an undervalued and readily available vintage, and if we go with it I suspect our crew has an extra bottle you can adoptdolcetours wrote:Yes, for Nov 13. My husband is definitely interested, and I might come too, if I don’t go to the American Wine Society conference that weekend in Cincinnati.
I have a half bottle of 2007 Taylor in the cellar, but that’s it. Beyond that, we’d have to go shopping.
My ears have perked up! Did you see the 2007 half bottle tasting that differentdave was planning? I'm looking forward to that tasting, it'll be an opportunity for us to evaluate the vintage (inexpensively) so we can do some 2007 purchasing in a couple years (when the prices level out). I'm going to try to get myself a Fonseca2007 for itdolcetours wrote: I have a half bottle of 2007 Taylor in the cellar.
We did a 20 year tawny tasting a year or so back, g-man led the charge on it and it was a lot of fun. I'm sure we'll do another in due time. As for it being affordable... It is, but personally I like VP over tawny (with few exceptions), and I keep my eyes open for exceptional VP deals. g-man and I found a silly pricing for some Croft 2000 (like, $24/bottle) and bought up 2 cases of the juicedolcetours wrote: For ideas for the future:
Do you ever do tawnies? Personally, I’d love a survey of 20 Year Olds, my favorite (affordable) category.
That's a good idea. I'd like us to get back up to 6 tastings per year, and having a theme makes it more interesting. Shall we put that on the calendar for Apr2011?dolcetours wrote: And how about something that looks at the new generation of Port houses that emerged upstream following the 1986 change in regulations? Places like Quinta do Tedo, our friend Quevedo, Body + Soul, Passadouro, and others? (If we can’t find their Ports in NYC, perhaps Claudio and I could pick up a mixed case when we’re on tour in Oporto next spring and everyone attending that session could chip to pay for the wine & shipping.)
For a big tasting like the Dow tasting, we generally get 10-14 people. 14 is the absolute maximum, as beyond that, there's not enough pours in the bottle The tasting is a little different from most as we've sourced most of the bottles already. We're probably going to just split the cost evenly amongst all participants. We will need a place to host it, so thank you for your offer, and we should talk more about the logistics. First, though, let's get you two to a tastingdolcetours wrote: Finally, for the Dow tasting, I’m willing to host in the late winter ”“ say, the latter half of February (after a flurry of writing deadlines settles down). I have a Brooklyn brownstone apartment, so the most we can host is 11 or 12, including me and Claudio. But I don’t know if that’s too small for this Port group, not having attended anything yet!
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Re: NY Tasting -- Sat Nov 13.
Thanks for all that feedback! I'm en route from Italy-->NY this weekend, so I'll get back to you when I have a moment to digest it all more fully.
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Re: NY Tasting -- Sat Nov 13.
Any news on the Noc 13 tasting? I've decided to stay in town, and both my hubby and I are interested.
Re: NY Tasting -- Sat Nov 13.
Yes,
Let's get this started,
Theme the 1982/83 vintage.
Location: TBD, we would need to find a location that might work for everyone and allow us time to run an actual tasting.
Drinkers:
g-man
sushinorth
dolcetours + 1
Tbird? - i think he may be away on vacation.
Let's get this started,
Theme the 1982/83 vintage.
Location: TBD, we would need to find a location that might work for everyone and allow us time to run an actual tasting.
Drinkers:
g-man
sushinorth
dolcetours + 1
Tbird? - i think he may be away on vacation.
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Re: NY Tasting -- Sat Nov 13.
acutally
anyone care to repeat the london's are we wasting our money tasting?
can source some lbv's very easily.
anyone care to repeat the london's are we wasting our money tasting?
can source some lbv's very easily.
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Re: NY Tasting -- Sat Nov 13.
As it turns out, my husband won't be back in the US until the day AFTER the tasting. So if it's on Nov. 13, it would be just me.
If we can postpone it to the following Saturday (Nov 20), Claudio could come.
More importantly, I could host it on Nov. 20, which wouldn't be possible on Nov. 13. I'm in Park Slope, Brooklyn. Is that convenient to everyone else? Of course, I'm assuming that you're looking to have this at someone's home, as opposed to a restaurant, but I could be wrong... I'm a newbie.
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If we can postpone it to the following Saturday (Nov 20), Claudio could come.
More importantly, I could host it on Nov. 20, which wouldn't be possible on Nov. 13. I'm in Park Slope, Brooklyn. Is that convenient to everyone else? Of course, I'm assuming that you're looking to have this at someone's home, as opposed to a restaurant, but I could be wrong... I'm a newbie.
pat
Re: NY Tasting -- Sat Nov 13.
dolcetours wrote:As it turns out, my husband won't be back in the US until the day AFTER the tasting. So if it's on Nov. 13, it would be just me.
If we can postpone it to the following Saturday (Nov 20), Claudio could come.
More importantly, I could host it on Nov. 20, which wouldn't be possible on Nov. 13. I'm in Park Slope, Brooklyn. Is that convenient to everyone else? Of course, I'm assuming that you're looking to have this at someone's home, as opposed to a restaurant, but I could be wrong... I'm a newbie.
pat
that does sound liek a plan
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Re: NY Tasting -- Sat Nov 13.
I've no problem holding a second tasting, but i'd really like to hold a tasting on this particular weekend. I've done some searching for BYO $0 corkage locations (as the scene has changed a little since the last tasting)g-man wrote:that does sound liek a plandolcetours wrote:As it turns out, my husband won't be back in the US until the day AFTER the tasting. So if it's on Nov. 13, it would be just me.
If we can postpone it to the following Saturday (Nov 20), Claudio could come.
As always, small places like La Sirene are still available, but they don't like us showing up on fri/sat for 2.5 hrs.
Here are a few other such places:
Antibes
A Cafe & Wine Room
Tartine
There's also Petite Crevette out in Carol Gardens.
Now, a different option is that Beacon Restaurant offers a BYO on Sundays. It's a bigger place, with foods that match nicely with Port. I've never been there, but Yelp likes it.
If we'd like to do a tasting soon there-after, we could certainly spin that off into a different thread and start planning in parallel.
Thoughts?
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Re: NY Tasting -- Sat Nov 13.
I'll go with the flow. I don't know the places you mention, except for Tartine, which is SMALL! So I'm not surprised they don't want people occupying a table that long on a weekend night.
How many people are actually interested in doing this? I feel like a voice in the wilderness.
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How many people are actually interested in doing this? I feel like a voice in the wilderness.
pt
Re: NY Tasting -- Sat Nov 13.
we can do it the week after in brooklyn on the 20th,dolcetours wrote:I'll go with the flow. I don't know the places you mention, except for Tartine, which is SMALL! So I'm not surprised they don't want people occupying a table that long on a weekend night.
How many people are actually interested in doing this? I feel like a voice in the wilderness.
pt
you want to ask Deb or anyone else?
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Re: NY Tasting -- Sat Nov 13.
Alright, so based on a discussion between g-man and myself yesterday, it sounds like we will do a small tasting this weekend, preferably at Beacon Restaurant on Sunday or we can explore A Cafe and Tasting Room for saturday.
Let's try to nail down a definitive list of attendees by end-of-day tomorrow:
Who's up for 6pm on Saturday?
Who's up for 5:30/6pm on Sunday?
Let's try to nail down a definitive list of attendees by end-of-day tomorrow:
Who's up for 6pm on Saturday?
Who's up for 5:30/6pm on Sunday?
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Re: NY Tasting -- Sat Nov 13.
I can do either. If it's six of one, half-dozen of the other, I'd vote for Sunday. The restaurant will probably be quieter and happier to have us.
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Re: NY Tasting -- Sat Nov 13.
Alright, so it sounds like we have a date, a location, and attendees. If we can settle on wine, that makes a tasting:
When: November 14, 2010, 6pm.
Where: Beacon Restaurant
Attendees: SushiNorth, g-man, dolcetours (please respond asap so i can make us a reservation)
Theme:
[*] Option1: 1983 (with surprises welcome)
[*] Option2: Unusual Eighties
Wines available in the theme:
Niepoort 1983 (1,2)
Smith Woodhouse 1983 (1)
Burmester 1980 (2)
Gould Campbell 1980 (2)
Churchill 1985 (2)
others?
When: November 14, 2010, 6pm.
Where: Beacon Restaurant
Attendees: SushiNorth, g-man, dolcetours (please respond asap so i can make us a reservation)
Theme:
[*] Option1: 1983 (with surprises welcome)
[*] Option2: Unusual Eighties
Wines available in the theme:
Niepoort 1983 (1,2)
Smith Woodhouse 1983 (1)
Burmester 1980 (2)
Gould Campbell 1980 (2)
Churchill 1985 (2)
others?
Re: NY Tasting -- Sat Nov 13.
sorry, can't do the 14th. the giants have a 4pm game.
could have done the 13th tho.
i'll be in carolina the 18th-22nd, so the 20th is out, and a damn shame, as i am in park slope too!
have fun!
could have done the 13th tho.
i'll be in carolina the 18th-22nd, so the 20th is out, and a damn shame, as i am in park slope too!
have fun!
you've got a friend in cheeses
Re: NY Tasting -- Sat Nov 13.
ps - if one day you do a park slope thing and need a nearby-ish restaurant, this place is new and byob and getting great reviews:
http://www.brucienyc.com/
also fyi, mid-week, i have a friend of a friend who has been allowing us byob at al di la for a set $15 corkage fee, as many bottles as we want to bring in. BAM!
http://www.brucienyc.com/
also fyi, mid-week, i have a friend of a friend who has been allowing us byob at al di la for a set $15 corkage fee, as many bottles as we want to bring in. BAM!
you've got a friend in cheeses