1966 Fonseca
F66
Slightly less opaque than the 1970. Nose somewhat closed, but predominamtly fruit rather than spice. Initial attack thinner than 1963, then gooier, sweeter. Still plenty of tannins. DRT: needs more time. UncleTomScore = 10-10.
Ghandih's thoughts
This was the best of the evening - full, fruity, gorgeous mouthful - probably the best port I've ever drunk (and that tops at least one from 1931, thanks to Julian's generosity). Uncle Tom, I am deeply indebted to you for opening your cellar to me, and am sad that I couldn't meet you in person.
I'll add further tasting notes later, but I'd like to have a go at the Uncle Tom scoring system. Once, I found a thread explaining how to do it, but I can't now. Can someone send me in the right direction?
I'll add further tasting notes later, but I'd like to have a go at the Uncle Tom scoring system. Once, I found a thread explaining how to do it, but I can't now. Can someone send me in the right direction?
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Can't disagree about this pulling off an absolute blinder yet again. Sweet, great backbone of tannin, masses of plums, spice and even a tang of orange. My overall favourite for its ability to be around until many of us will be shuffling off this portal coil.
Can't disagree about this pulling off an absolute blinder yet again. Sweet, great backbone of tannin, masses of plums, spice and even a tang of orange. My overall favourite for its ability to be around until many of us will be shuffling off this portal coil.
Port is basically a red drink
This bottle was one of 3 given to me on my birthday this year by the best portaholics girfriend in history
A stunning bottle which re-enforced this as being one of my all time favourite VP's.
The first thing that hit me was the tannin. Remarkable for a 40+ year old wine. A beutiful colour and significantly more opaque than the 63. A closed nose was later revealed as a problem of being outdoors. Inside, a complex nose which did not quite compete with the 63. A huge chewy dark cherry truffle taste. WOW! what a wine
Hands down winner for me of Wine of the Night. Decades of pleasure to go in this one, despite already being 41 years old.
Derek
A stunning bottle which re-enforced this as being one of my all time favourite VP's.
The first thing that hit me was the tannin. Remarkable for a 40+ year old wine. A beutiful colour and significantly more opaque than the 63. A closed nose was later revealed as a problem of being outdoors. Inside, a complex nose which did not quite compete with the 63. A huge chewy dark cherry truffle taste. WOW! what a wine
Hands down winner for me of Wine of the Night. Decades of pleasure to go in this one, despite already being 41 years old.
Derek
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
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Wanting to give this wine a fair hearing (ex miniature bottle - courtesy of Derek!) I have saved it for a window of low stress... - biz is getting a little frenetic right now...!
Maybe the time delay is an issue here, but it's coming over rather light, and not very Fonseca, although it seems to have some age..
I'm hoping that Derek will now jump in and confess that this was not the real McCoy...
Tom
Maybe the time delay is an issue here, but it's coming over rather light, and not very Fonseca, although it seems to have some age..
I'm hoping that Derek will now jump in and confess that this was not the real McCoy...
Tom
I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I shall be sober and you will still be ugly - W.S. Churchill
Tom,
Just to show how many differing opinions there are out there, I'm with you. The rest thought this was stellar. I thought it was good. If I had any criticism of a very nice Port, it was that the mouthfeel wasn't quite there. I knew I was sailing against the wind, at that table, so I just kept that opinion to myself, when it wasn't reciprocated. But it wasn't a patch on the 63,77, or IMHO the 85. But it takes allsorts.
Must keep things in perspective though. Bloody good Port.
Alan
Just to show how many differing opinions there are out there, I'm with you. The rest thought this was stellar. I thought it was good. If I had any criticism of a very nice Port, it was that the mouthfeel wasn't quite there. I knew I was sailing against the wind, at that table, so I just kept that opinion to myself, when it wasn't reciprocated. But it wasn't a patch on the 63,77, or IMHO the 85. But it takes allsorts.
Must keep things in perspective though. Bloody good Port.
Alan
I'm not sure that TN's of the same 41 year old wine that were taken 9 days apart are particularly valid.
I'll stick by my assertion that this was a stellar bottle of a stellar wine on the night - wat happened to it by the time Tom opened his sample 9 days later is anyone's guess
Derek
I'll stick by my assertion that this was a stellar bottle of a stellar wine on the night - wat happened to it by the time Tom opened his sample 9 days later is anyone's guess
Derek
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
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Ghandih's Twopenneth
Ah, the F66! Deep red brown, looks the business - really thick and gooey, tannins, massive structure, and then lots of spiciness. The things that stuck with me were the big mouthfeel - a wonderful sensation just having it in my mouth - and the spiciness. Absolutely marvellous. On the Uncle Tom scoring system, it definitely gets a 10 now, but I feel those tannins mean it will get better. I don't suppose 11s are allowed, so I guess it's a 10-10.
Just out of interest, apart from Derek, has anyone else out there got any bottles?
Just out of interest, apart from Derek, has anyone else out there got any bottles?
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