LBV - Young and Old; London, 10th and 26th January 2011
- Alex Bridgeman
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LBV - Young and Old; London, 10th and 26th January 2011
I was chatting to Derek earlier about Late Bottled Vintage ports and how infrequently we drink them. Only then did I realise that I have more LBV ports than I thought and that these go back to the 1960s.
Would anyone have any interest in an offline themed around mature vintage ports? Say 1999 or older? I have LBV from 1999, 1997, 1991, 1987, 1974, 1968 and 1967.
Any takers? (If not, I'll just drink these as cellar defenders.)
Would anyone have any interest in an offline themed around mature vintage ports? Say 1999 or older? I have LBV from 1999, 1997, 1991, 1987, 1974, 1968 and 1967.
Any takers? (If not, I'll just drink these as cellar defenders.)
Last edited by Alex Bridgeman on 21:44 Sat 25 Dec 2010, edited 3 times in total.
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I would be interested. A variation might be to taste one or two of the currently available LBV's to get a sense of how they may evolve if we do not drink them now!
Ben
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Do you know how the old LBVs are holding up? I’d be a bit worried about a night of ducks once we got older than 1990!
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I have a bottle of Taylor LBV 1965. This was the first LBV to be produced on a commercial basis. It is hereby donated to this off-line.
I also have a bottle of Niepoort 1975 LBV. Yes. That's right. 1975 and "LBV" in the same sentence. Consider it "in".
I also have a bottle of Niepoort 1975 LBV. Yes. That's right. 1975 and "LBV" in the same sentence. Consider it "in".
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Re: Offline Idea
I quite like Ben's suggestion of a current LBV tasted alongside older ones. There is the academic interest of being able to see what the port is likely to evolve into with enough time, but also the safety of knowing that you are unlikely to have a complete night of ducks.JacobH wrote:Do you know how the old LBVs are holding up? I’d be a bit worried about a night of ducks once we got older than 1990!
But, my experience with older LBV going back to the early 1960s is that they tend to be light, elegant and pretty tasty - unless it's a Churchill 1992 which I have tried three times and disliked greatly three times.
Top Ports in 2023: Taylor 1896 Colheita, b. 2021. A perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
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Hi there,
I am interested in this tsting as well. However I am afraid to say that I have no older LBVs
I believe most of them will age gracefully especially in good years where no vintage port was declared.
regards
WS1
I am interested in this tsting as well. However I am afraid to say that I have no older LBVs
I believe most of them will age gracefully especially in good years where no vintage port was declared.
regards
WS1
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Sounds good to me Shall we set a date? I'm afraid, though that my only old LBVs are a 90s unfiltered Warre and a (half-bottle of) '92 Churchill.AHB wrote:I quite like Ben's suggestion of a current LBV tasted alongside older ones. There is the academic interest of being able to see what the port is likely to evolve into with enough time, but also the safety of knowing that you are unlikely to have a complete night of ducks.JacobH wrote:Do you know how the old LBVs are holding up? I’d be a bit worried about a night of ducks once we got older than 1990!
I appreciate that I don't quite understand them and that score inflation exists, but I didn't realise that 82 points equated to "disliked greatly"!!AHB wrote:But, my experience with older LBV going back to the early 1960s is that they tend to be light, elegant and pretty tasty - unless it's a Churchill 1992 which I have tried three times and disliked greatly three times.
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Good idea, Alex. I have many LBVs from 2000 and keeping them for such a reason. I do have Grahams Literbottle LBVs back to 96, but this acutally is it.
Happy to put them in.
Axel
Happy to put them in.
Axel
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I accept the gentle admonishment. For me, 82 points is a wine I will drink rather than throw away but is probably one that has disappointed me due to some flaws in its composition. Perhaps I was exaggerating unfairly.JacobH wrote:I appreciate that I don't quite understand them and that score inflation exists, but I didn't realise that 82 points equated to "disliked greatly"!!
I have to be in London on Jan 10 - how would that night suit for this offline?
Top Ports in 2023: Taylor 1896 Colheita, b. 2021. A perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
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Excellent idea! I think I have a 1986 LBV floating around somewhere. Mark it, dude.
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As I have two good candidates for this off-line one of them is available for adoption by anyone who doesn't have any old LBVs.
PM or email me if you are interested.
PM or email me if you are interested.
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If I set the date for this tasting as 10 January 2010, would this cause problems for anyone interested in attending?
Top Ports in 2023: Taylor 1896 Colheita, b. 2021. A perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
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That should be OK for me.
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The 10th works for me. Caroline is also keen though she may have to withdraw at the last minute.
I'll bring a Warre 1999 and the 35cl Churchill 1992
Shall I suggest Caroline bring a young one or see if she can adopt?
I'll bring a Warre 1999 and the 35cl Churchill 1992
Shall I suggest Caroline bring a young one or see if she can adopt?
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LBV - Yound and Old; London 26th January 2011
I've had a request that we arrange this offline on 26th January. On the assumption that everyone is still able to make it, I have changed the title of the thread to reflect the date and theme.
In an ideal world, I would like to have a bottle of LBV from each decade between 1960 and 2010 (don't be pedantic!). If you would like to attend, please could you post here what LBV you could contribute to the offline.
And if the 26th doesn't work for you but you would like to attend - please say so as soon as possible.
In an ideal world, I would like to have a bottle of LBV from each decade between 1960 and 2010 (don't be pedantic!). If you would like to attend, please could you post here what LBV you could contribute to the offline.
And if the 26th doesn't work for you but you would like to attend - please say so as soon as possible.
Top Ports in 2023: Taylor 1896 Colheita, b. 2021. A perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
Re: LBV - Young and Old; London, 26th January 2011
Alex. I will struggle to make 26th January as I am out the following evening. Were the date to be as original, or sufficiently far removed from 27th to enable a pass to be requested with some confidence of it being granted, I have a Ramos Pinto 1995 LBV, a Warre 2000 LBV and (hopefully) a Warre 1995 LBV. Also have the 2004 Quevedo. All are unfiltered.
Ben
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I am glad you have changed the date otherwise I would have missed this by a mileAHB wrote:If I set the date for this tasting as 10 January 2010, would this cause problems for anyone interested in attending?
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Provided you were exactly a year late, no-one would have minded in the least.Cookie wrote:I am glad you have changed the date otherwise I would have missed this by a mileAHB wrote:If I set the date for this tasting as 10 January 2010, would this cause problems for anyone interested in attending?
Top Ports in 2023: Taylor 1896 Colheita, b. 2021. A perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
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Re: LBV - Young and Old; London, 26th January 2011
Perhaps we will need to do this in two instalments. I have a Warre 1974 LBV that might make for a very interesting comparison against a 1995 and/or 2000.benread wrote:Alex. I will struggle to make 26th January as I am out the following evening. Were the date to be as original, or sufficiently far removed from 27th to enable a pass to be requested with some confidence of it being granted, I have a Ramos Pinto 1995 LBV, a Warre 2000 LBV and (hopefully) a Warre 1995 LBV. Also have the 2004 Quevedo. All are unfiltered.
Jan 10th
AHB
BMHR
Jan 26th
AHB
DRT
JGH +1
Caroline
Interested but not committed to a date
WS1
AP
CSD
RLC
RAYC
Last edited by Alex Bridgeman on 09:42 Wed 29 Dec 2010, edited 2 times in total.
Top Ports in 2023: Taylor 1896 Colheita, b. 2021. A perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
Re: LBV - Young and Old; London, 26th January 2011
I'm keen, and have a couple of interesting older Taylors that could be used.
Either date would be fine for me.
Cheers
Rob
Either date would be fine for me.
Cheers
Rob
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Re: LBV - Young and Old; London, 26th January 2011
Either date, or both dates...RAYC wrote:I'm keen, and have a couple of interesting older Taylors that could be used.
Either date would be fine for me.
Cheers
Rob
(I plan to be there for both dates.)
Top Ports in 2023: Taylor 1896 Colheita, b. 2021. A perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
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Re: LBV - Young and Old; London, 26th January 2011
The later date is now looking better for me; regrettably I’m not sure that I could make the first.
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Re: LBV - Young and Old; London, 26th January 2011
Would that be you or you and Caroline?JacobH wrote:The later date is now looking better for me; regrettably I’m not sure that I could make the first.
Top Ports in 2023: Taylor 1896 Colheita, b. 2021. A perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
Re: LBV - Young and Old; London, 26th January 2011
Could you make the placemats for the first? For me that would be awkward, though not necessarily impossible.JacobH wrote:The later date is now looking better for me; regrettably I’m not sure that I could make the first.
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Re: LBV - Young and Old; London, 10th and 26th January 2011
Sorry for the late reply: both of us. Working on talking a +1 into the 26th, too.AHB wrote:Would that be you or you and Caroline?
Yes, of course, or both, if that would help.jdaw1 wrote:Could you make the placemats for the first? For me that would be awkward, though not necessarily impossible.