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Consumption of non-port wines

Postby RAYC » 17:22 Fri 03 Feb 2012

Here, Roy Hersh wrote:It is enlightening for me to see the difference between the wine lovers on this forum, and a very Port-centric lot from the UK on another forum. A massive difference. Many of them live for drinking Port, or so it seems. Several own no other wine in their entire collections, besides Port. The only offlines and wine events they attend are Port related. Clearly that is nowhere near the case with all of you.

Very interesting to say the least. Glad to hear there is a semblance of balance here. While I love Port and Madeira (obviously), they make up only 15% of my annual consumption. Douro and other Portuguese table wines even bests that!

Thank you for enlightening me.


So come on...own up...who owns no other wine in their collection or only attends port-related events...?

...Derek...?! :lol:
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Re: Consumption of non-port wines

Postby g-man » 17:47 Fri 03 Feb 2012

50% collection is port
70% of my purchases so far in the past 2 years have been all port (about 140 bottles a year)

If i goto non port offlines, I'm the one bringing the port.

what does that count as? =)
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Re: Consumption of non-port wines

Postby g-man » 17:50 Fri 03 Feb 2012

RAYC wrote:
Here, Roy Hersh wrote:It is enlightening for me to see the difference between the wine lovers on this forum, and a very Port-centric lot from the UK on another forum. A massive difference. Many of them live for drinking Port, or so it seems. Several own no other wine in their entire collections, besides Port. The only offlines and wine events they attend are Port related. Clearly that is nowhere near the case with all of you.

Very interesting to say the least. Glad to hear there is a semblance of balance here. While I love Port and Madeira (obviously), they make up only 15% of my annual consumption. Douro and other Portuguese table wines even bests that!

Thank you for enlightening me.


So come on...own up...who owns no other wine in their collection or only attends port-related events...?

...Derek...?! :lol:



oh and sushi is probably another one.
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Re: Consumption of non-port wines

Postby RAYC » 17:52 Fri 03 Feb 2012

g-man wrote:50% collection is port
70% of my purchases so far in the past 2 years have been all port (about 140 bottles a year)

If i goto non port offlines, I'm the one bringing the port.

what does that count as? =)


sounds like you are on a slippery slope....clinging to the last vestiges of balance!! :wink:
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Re: Consumption of non-port wines

Postby DRT » 18:24 Fri 03 Feb 2012

My "collection" is almost entirely Port.

I own one bottle of fortified wine from a region outside the Douro: Lange's 1888 (Australia)

I normally have anywhere between 6 and 100 bottles of dry red wines from various regions that are for general consumption, not for keeping or for taking to tastings. I do not have any dry red wine in storage.

I own no white wine.
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Re: Consumption of non-port wines

Postby g-man » 18:30 Fri 03 Feb 2012

DRT wrote:I own no white wine.


So rose's are what? pink? :P
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Re: Consumption of non-port wines

Postby DRT » 18:47 Fri 03 Feb 2012

g-man wrote:
DRT wrote:I own no white wine.


So rose's are what? pink? :P
I own no rose wine.
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Re: Consumption of non-port wines

Postby g-man » 19:13 Fri 03 Feb 2012

DRT wrote:
g-man wrote:
DRT wrote:I own no white wine.


So rose's are what? pink? :P
I own no rose wine.


must have been your crappy inet connection because it looked like a Rose on the label =)
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Re: Consumption of non-port wines

Postby DRT » 19:33 Fri 03 Feb 2012

It had the word Rose in the name of the Chateau :wink:
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Re: Consumption of non-port wines

Postby Chris Doty » 19:33 Fri 03 Feb 2012

It is possible that port accounts for as much as 10% of my total wine collection.

Not having the figures to hand, I would say my cellar is:

60% French Red Wine
15% Other Red Wine (mainly Italian)
15% White / Champagne
10% Vintage Port

While only ~10% of my collection, Vintage Port accounts for ~25% of all my tasting notes since 2010 (218 of 903) -- so thanks to TPF for giving me so many opportunities to drink such fabulous wines!
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Re: Consumption of non-port wines

Postby g-man » 20:04 Fri 03 Feb 2012

didnt' realize you had so much bordeaux

interested in doing a wine dinner?

Chris Doty wrote:It is possible that port accounts for as much as 10% of my total wine collection.

Not having the figures to hand, I would say my cellar is:

60% French Red Wine
15% Other Red Wine (mainly Italian)
15% White / Champagne
10% Vintage Port

While only ~10% of my collection, Vintage Port accounts for ~25% of all my tasting notes since 2010 (218 of 903) -- so thanks to TPF for giving me so many opportunities to drink such fabulous wines!
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Re: Consumption of non-port wines

Postby Chris Doty » 20:08 Fri 03 Feb 2012

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Re: Consumption of non-port wines

Postby Glenn E. » 22:52 Fri 03 Feb 2012

RAYC wrote:So come on...own up...who owns no other wine in their collection or only attends port-related events...?

My collection contains a mere handful of non-Port dessert wines. A couple of ice wines and a couple of Rieslings. However I do also store some dry red wines for my wife's pleasure, so my storage space contains "only" 80-85% Port.

I can't recall attending any non-Port related events in the past, but I'm breaking that tradition tonight by accompanying my wife to the Issaquah Wine Walk. I won't be participating... just ensuring that she gets home. :wink: She has performed the same service for me many times in the past, so I'm happy to tag along for her, too.
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Re: Consumption of non-port wines

Postby DRT » 23:10 Fri 03 Feb 2012

Glenn E. wrote:I can't recall attending any non-Port related events in the past
The only tasting I have attended that wasn't Port was in the Whisky Society in Edinburgh. It was a very messy affair :roll:
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Re: Consumption of non-port wines

Postby RAYC » 00:16 Sat 04 Feb 2012

DRT wrote:The only tasting I have attended that wasn't Port was in the Whisky Society in Edinburgh. It was a very messy affair :roll:


At a push, i'd allow you the b.f.t. as a second!
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Re: Consumption of non-port wines

Postby AHB » 09:45 Sat 04 Feb 2012

Rather unexpectedly, it looks like I might be more cosmopolitan than some others here. For example, in the past 3 years I have attended a Mouton Rothschild tasting, an English Wine seminar, toured an English vineyard and participated in a 1980s 3ieme value claret review.

But that doesn't detract from the fact that I am a thoroughly dedicated port lover (with a lower case p). I pull about 78 bottles of Port a year out of my cellar and probably 36 bottles a year of non-Port. Of the non-Port, probably 12 bottles are Champagne, 12 are claret, 6 are English and 6 are anything else. I probably attend 36-40 tasting events a year, of which all but 1 or 2 will be port focussed (or where I will focus exclusively on the ports on show).

In the cellar, 91% of the bottles are Port, 3% are claret, 2% is Champagne and 1% Australian; I also have English, Rhone, Spanish, Hungarian, Sauterne, South African and "Other" each accounting for less than 1%.
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Re: Consumption of non-port wines

Postby uncle tom » 10:43 Sat 04 Feb 2012

I draw 48 bottles of vintage port for drinking casually at home each year, plus about two dozen for social events. I also drink about two dozen other bottles of port, notably bottles of LBV in hotel rooms.

I divide my red wines into two broad categories - cheap quaffers and decent bottles, and get through about five cases of each every year for home drinking. I also drink about a dozen bottles of white wine.

I don't drink as much beer as I used to, and hardly ever at home, but still get through close to 1,000 pints a year in pubs and bars.

Although my port is meticulously catalogued, I don't have much idea as to how many bottles of wine I currently own - somewhere short of 1,000 bottles I think - I must count them this year!
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Re: Consumption of non-port wines

Postby JacobH » 11:59 Sat 04 Feb 2012

I drink far more Port than any other type of wine, and firmly prefer wines that are sweet and /or fortified to table wines. I do like red table wine but most of what I own is Port, though, simply because I tend to drink table wines when I’m out at restaurants and Port at home, so I don’t need to have much around. If I have a dinner party, I’ll probably go out and buy something specifically for it.

I’ve never been to a private non-Port tasting, but I go to quite a few commercial ones ranging from big walk-around tastings to sit-down ones with a lecture and semi-private ones in bars which do a tasting selection (like Vinologia in Oporto). In 2011, I think I went to tastings with: sherry; fortified wines from Roussillon; whisky; tokaji; wines from Piedmont; a few Madeira tastings in Madeira, and a general “wines of the year” tasting. I guess I therefore like quite a range, though all within the “oddity category”.
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Re: Consumption of non-port wines

Postby RonnieRoots » 04:16 Mon 06 Feb 2012

Port takes up just under 50% of my cellar, but I drink far more red and white wine than Port. Because of the climate here I tend to drink a lot more white wine than I used to, also I found that from what's locally available I find more enjoyment in cheap whites than in cheap reds. All the Port needs to be brought in (2 bottles per person per time) so is only for special occasions.

Of the other wines in my cellar, Douro reds and German whites take up the biggest share.
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Re: Consumption of non-port wines

Postby SushiNorth » 20:19 Tue 21 Feb 2012

RAYC wrote:
Here, Roy Hersh wrote:It is enlightening for me to see the difference between the wine lovers on this forum, and a very Port-centric lot from the UK on another forum. A massive difference. Many of them live for drinking Port, or so it seems. Several own no other wine in their entire collections, besides Port. The only offlines and wine events they attend are Port related. Clearly that is nowhere near the case with all of you.
Very interesting to say the least. Glad to hear there is a semblance of balance here. While I love Port and Madeira (obviously), they make up only 15% of my annual consumption. Douro and other Portuguese table wines even bests that!
Thank you for enlightening me.


So come on...own up...who owns no other wine in their collection or only attends port-related events...?


I own roughly 85% port, or ~400 bottles. I primarily attend port-related tastings. I don't live in the UK, but I also don't consider myself out-of-balance. Rather, I'd compare the proportion of wine-related activities to other activities in my life. I don't run a Port website, nor even the sake website I'd considered starting, nor do I attend more than 1-2 tastings/month. Balance is a matter of perspective.

Update: and now, having read the other comments here, I know that as someone who fancies Port I am amongst the right crowd here on The Port Forum.
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Re: Consumption of non-port wines

Postby AHB » 22:31 Tue 21 Feb 2012

You are definitely among like-minded people here - my first love is most certainly port.

But that was a very interesting read - thanks for posting the link.
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Re: Consumption of non-port wines

Postby JacobH » 21:21 Sun 26 Feb 2012

AHB wrote:I probably attend 36-40 tasting events a year, of which all but 1 or 2 will be port focussed (or where I will focus exclusively on the ports on show).
I missed this the first time around. 36 to 40? :shock: That’s pretty much one a week with a few weeks off for Christmas or a Summer holiday. I wish I could keep up that momentum 88)
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Re: Consumption of non-port wines

Postby PhilW » 08:42 Mon 27 Feb 2012

RAYC wrote:So come on...own up...who owns no other wine in their collection or only attends port-related events...?

um... me. My collection is significantly smaller than most here, current number of bottles is only double-digit, but they are all port (in fact almost all vintage port, all except for 1 bottle of tawny and half a dozen Croft LBV halves), and all of the alcohol-related events I have attended in the last year have been port-related (though we do have two wine-related events lined up for later this year).
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