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Re: Apostrophe crimes

Postby jdaw1 » 20:42 Sun 12 Feb 2012

Here JacobH wrote:My advise
Trouble, it seems, with the verb-noun distinction?
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Re: Apostrophe crimes

Postby DRT » 21:03 Sun 12 Feb 2012

BREAKING NEWS: jdaw1 and JacobH both convicted on the same day!!!

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Re: Apostrophe crimes

Postby JacobH » 22:20 Sun 12 Feb 2012

jdaw1 wrote:
Here JacobH wrote:My advise
Trouble, it seems, with the verb-noun distinction?
mea culpa. My mitigation is that sentence originally read “I might advise...” or similar.
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Re: Apostrophe crimes

Postby RAYC » 12:59 Wed 22 Feb 2012

Here, jdaw1 wrote:A very pleasant evening with two bottles, and—as ever—the TCP’s excellent food and service. Plus the Scribners, for the non-drinking Mrs S was also present, had the pleasure of seeing the rabbit warren that is TCP.


Can't believe this one slipped through the net. There's even a special name for this type of error (that i can't remember just now).
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Re: Apostrophe crimes

Postby Glenn E. » 16:45 Wed 22 Feb 2012

I fail to detect the error, unless it is the lack of a period after Mrs.

Your 800th post, no less.
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Re: Apostrophe crimes

Postby RAYC » 17:34 Wed 22 Feb 2012

Glenn E. wrote:I fail to detect the error, unless it is the lack of a period after Mrs.

Your 800th post, no less.


You got me - I must admit, i was in search of an error to see whether i would progress past Malvedos 96!

"the TCP", de-TLA'd, is "the The Crusting Pipe", which doesn't seem to me to read well in this context.

I'm pretty sure there's a term for the use of a superfluous word before an acronym, but can't remember and don't seem to have the google skills to find it.

I'm not exactly sure what the rules are for the use of a period after Mrs - i think (for British English, at least) it is not required since the abbreviation ends with the same letter as the full word (Mistress) (cf Captain - Capt.)
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Re: Apostrophe crimes

Postby Glenn E. » 22:37 Wed 22 Feb 2012

Ah yes, like the infamous ATM machine and PIN number. Completely missed that!
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Re: Apostrophe crimes

Postby RAYC » 11:57 Thu 23 Feb 2012

Here, DRT wrote:Warre 2009 helps the heros...
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Re: Apostrophe crimes

Postby PhilW » 12:17 Thu 23 Feb 2012

RAYC wrote:
Here, DRT wrote:Warre 2009 helps the heros...

isn't that just a spelling crime?
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Re: Apostrophe crimes

Postby RAYC » 12:37 Thu 23 Feb 2012

PhilW wrote:
RAYC wrote:
Here, DRT wrote:Warre 2009 helps the heros...

isn't that just a spelling crime?


Yes. But i was feeling unforgiving.

jdaw1 wrote:This thread is also used for reports of crimes of similar import. Carry on.
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Re: Apostrophe crimes

Postby RAYC » 12:40 Thu 23 Feb 2012

Glenn E. wrote:Ah yes, like the infamous ATM machine and PIN number. Completely missed that!


RAS Syndrome!

The examples that i seem to come across most frequently at the moment are "RPI Index" and "CPI Index".
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Re: Apostrophe crimes

Postby JacobH » 21:28 Thu 23 Feb 2012

RAYC wrote:The examples that i seem to come across most frequently at the moment are "RPI Index" and "CPI Index".
There’s a foreign-language version of this too (e.g. “the Al Aqsa Mosque”, “please RSVP”, “the hoi polloi”, &c. &c.) which is equally annoying.
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Re: Apostrophe crimes

Postby DRT » 22:11 Thu 23 Feb 2012

I am pleased to report that a quick search of this site returns no instances of "the TPF".
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Re: Apostrophe crimes

Postby Glenn E. » 00:40 Fri 24 Feb 2012

RAYC wrote:
Glenn E. wrote:Ah yes, like the infamous ATM machine and PIN number. Completely missed that!


RAS Syndrome!

The examples that i seem to come across most frequently at the moment are "RPI Index" and "CPI Index".

Awesome. PNS Syndrome.
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Re: Apostrophe crimes

Postby JacobH » 09:35 Fri 24 Feb 2012

DRT wrote:I am pleased to report that a quick search of this site returns no instances of "the TPF".
It appears there are few members who haven’t uttered the phrase “the TCP”, though. For obvious reasons this is the most heinous example.
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Re: Apostrophe crimes

Postby AHB » 12:49 Fri 24 Feb 2012

JacobH wrote:
DRT wrote:I am pleased to report that a quick search of this site returns no instances of "the TPF".
It appears there are few members who haven’t uttered the phrase “the TCP”, though. For obvious reasons this is the most heinous example.

I'm pleased to be able to look smugly at the contents of my reply to JDAW's reference to "the TCP". 88)
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Re: Apostrophe crimes

Postby DRT » 23:47 Fri 24 Feb 2012

JacobH wrote:
DRT wrote:I am pleased to report that a quick search of this site returns no instances of "the TPF".
It appears there are few members who haven’t uttered the phrase “the TCP”, though. For obvious reasons this is the most heinous example.
Presumably you meant "have uttered the phrase"?
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Re: Apostrophe crimes

Postby JacobH » 14:53 Sat 25 Feb 2012

DRT wrote:
JacobH wrote:
DRT wrote:I am pleased to report that a quick search of this site returns no instances of "the TPF".
It appears there are few members who haven’t uttered the phrase “the TCP”, though. For obvious reasons this is the most heinous example.
Presumably you meant "have uttered the phrase"?
Indicted with jdaw1 are: WS1, AHB, me :oops:, PhilW, RonnieRoots, ChrisD, and DRT, which seems like a reasonable cross-section of the :tpf: community :wink:
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Re: Apostrophe crimes

Postby DRT » 17:13 Sat 25 Feb 2012

JacobH wrote:
DRT wrote:
JacobH wrote:
DRT wrote:I am pleased to report that a quick search of this site returns no instances of "the TPF".
It appears there are few members who haven’t uttered the phrase “the TCP”, though. For obvious reasons this is the most heinous example.
Presumably you meant "have uttered the phrase"?
Indicted with jdaw1 are: WS1, AHB, me :oops:, PhilW, RonnieRoots, ChrisD, and DRT, which seems like a reasonable cross-section of the :tpf: community :wink:
Worst of all, there is no "The" in "Crusting Pipe". :roll:
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Re: Apostrophe crimes

Postby PhilW » 18:05 Sat 25 Feb 2012

DRT wrote:Worst of all, there is no "The" in "Crusting Pipe". :roll:

Even Davy's get confused though - the first paragraph is:
Davy's wrote:Situated in the Heart of The Old Covent Garden Market, The Crusting Pipe is one of our traditional styled Wine Bars
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Re: Apostrophe crimes

Postby DRT » 18:31 Sat 25 Feb 2012

PhilW wrote:
DRT wrote:Worst of all, there is no "The" in "Crusting Pipe". :roll:

Even Davy's get confused though - the first paragraph is:
Davy's wrote:Situated in the Heart of The Old Covent Garden Market, The Crusting Pipe is one of our traditional styled Wine Bars
I don't think we want to use Davy's website as an acceptable standard.
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Re: Apostrophe crimes

Postby JacobH » 20:42 Sun 26 Feb 2012

PhilW wrote:
DRT wrote:Worst of all, there is no "The" in "Crusting Pipe". :roll:

Even Davy's get confused though - the first paragraph is:
Davy's wrote:Situated in the Heart of The Old Covent Garden Market, The Crusting Pipe is one of our traditional styled Wine Bars
I was going to say that I think they’ve just gone for the traditional method of capitalising the first letter of every noun, but then I’m pretty sure those market buildings are a “new Covent Garden market”, not old, having been built to replace the old wooden stalls in the 19th Century. (Of course there is also a “New Covent Garden”, too, which helpfully does not have any capitals in its name at all...)
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Re: Apostrophe crimes

Postby DRT » 21:29 Sun 26 Feb 2012

Here g-man wrote:Acutally

we might have to change this to a pre leap year celebration
or the TPF, "I don't believe in leap days due to a rounding error" tasting on the 28th
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Re: Apostrophe crimes

Postby RAYC » 16:05 Mon 27 Feb 2012

Here, PortoVino wrote:The name Dalva comes from Da(sil)va. Easier to say!



Dava?

But, as a side note, i have never seen a Dalva port, as opposed to a DALVA port, leading me to think that the proper name of the brand requires all letters to be capitalised and that our references in the TN database are incorrect.
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Re: Apostrophe crimes

Postby RAYC » 16:08 Mon 27 Feb 2012

What are the rules surrounding this type of "clarificatory" apostrophe?
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