Borges muito velho and friends

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Borges muito velho and friends

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Bonhams have promised me a sample bottle from a stash that is going under the hammer on Dec 6th. I should have it tomorrow (23rd)

It's billed as a tawny that has been in wood for 80 -100 years

Suggest we have an old wood port tasting sometime in the next few days to play it against - I could bring one of the unknown 1940 colheitas recently secured, or an unknown '37 that I've had for a while..

- Venue ?

- Date ?
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Keen, and i suspect more available than others so i'll fit in on dates.
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I'm working in London on Wednesday 28th November - would that date work?
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Good by me..
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hmmm....next week now looking busy for me throughout so i'll hope to be there but don't plan round me.
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Seeking permission; if granted adoption will be necessary.
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if granted adoption will be necessary
Can be arranged..
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jdaw1 wrote:Seeking permission
Sought; granted.

Placemats?
• Known to be Wed 28 Nov.
• Where? (Bung Hole reservation?)
• What? (Borges Tawny Muito Velho, and what else? Please detail in-thread or, less good, by PM.)
• Who? (THRA, RAYC, AHB, JDAW. Anybody else?)
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Will call Bung Hole tomorrow lunchtime, unless someone has a better venue idea..

Bottle now received, new cork, label and capsule, but original cellar grime from 1947 to date...

Adoptable colheitas:

- Ramos Pinto '59
- Burmester '55
- Royal Oporto '63
- Dalva '40

or

- Ferreira 40yr, bottled 1962

(I also have a rather splendid, Borges 1917 Junco vineyards colheita, which I probably paid a little too much for...)
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RAYC wrote:hmmm....next week now looking busy for me throughout so i'll hope to be there but don't plan round me.
This remains the case for me. I will either need to arrange a last minute adoption or could bring a 40/30 tawny or old VP.

Just to be clear, the main event is a bottle that is reputed to have spent 80-100 years in casks before being bottled in 1947...?
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Just to be clear, the main event is a bottle that is reputed to have spent 80-100 years in casks before being bottled in 1947...?
How long it spent in cask prior to bottling is not clear. The label describes the port as belonging to the 'more than 40 years old' category, which shouldn't (- I think..??) include the time spent post bottling..
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jdaw1 wrote:• What? (Borges Tawny Muito Velho, and what else? Please detail in-thread or, less good, by PM.)
I am being pursued to declare what I will be bringing. How can I do so when I do not yet know what I will be bringing? I am minded to bring something red to act as a counterpoint to the brown sticky stuff that others will be bringing. That way I can determine whether I wish to buy some brown sticky stuff to put in my wine cellar in preference to buying more red stuff.
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AHB: ‘Red’. ✠“
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Bunghole booked - our usual room will probably not be available as they have a largish event on that afternoon, but as this is only a small tasting, they are reserving a couple of tables for us.
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First draft of the placemats [Edit: link removed as tasting cancelled].
  • AHB bringing ‘Red’.
  • RAYC not certain to attend, so ‘??’.
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Gents, I am sorry, but I won't be able to be with you Wednesday night. Unfortunately the Winter Vomiting Virus seems to be having exactly that effect on me!
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Alex: get well soon.

Tom: it is just the two of us.
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RAYC has suggested we delay for a day. Cancellation is now probable.

Nonetheless, updated draft of the placemats [Edit: link removed as tasting cancelled].
  • ”“AHB, ”“‘Red’.
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RAYC has suggested we delay for a day. Cancellation is now probable.
This seems sensible..
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I am recovered!

It looks like I will be in London and free for at least part of the evening on Wednesday 5th December. If I recall corectly, the Borges Muito Velho is being auctioned on Thursday 6th. Would Wednesday the 5th work for us as a rescheduling for the previous attempted tasting?
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2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
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AHB wrote:I am recovered!
Hurray!
AHB wrote:the evening on Wednesday 5th December
That immediately follows the Autumn Statement of the Chancellor of the Exchequer. It is forecast that he will reveal details about the UK finances, how these will be financed, and the maturity of a forthcoming super-long gilt (2070? 22 July 2078?). These are matters of concern to my employer: I am unable to guarantee attendance before 10pm.

But I might be done and thirsty by 6pm.

And I won’t know which until late in the day.

Conclusion. Assume Wiseman non-attendance. Somebody else to print.
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Tom has confirmed that he should be able to attend the Bung Hole on Wednesday 5th. Anyone else?
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2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
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AHB wrote:Tom has confirmed that he should be able to attend the Bung Hole on Wednesday 5th. Anyone else?
I think I may be persuaded to attend given there is a '59 in the line-up :D
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Updated draft of the placemats.
  • +RLC. (What are you bringing?)
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