The "Deeper Underground" Offline (28 Jan 2008)

[Conky]

Reminded me of the Fast Show,

'Indecisive Dave' eat you're heart out!

[DRT]

Or, it could be that I am willing to be convinced to change my mind through sound reasoning and debate

Anyway, I've had my 1 wobble on this one and am now firmly in the Greatest 1966 VP Horizontal Tasting in History camp.

Derek

[jdaw1]

News: I now have to give a presentation, on a subject that is dearer to my heart than to yours, on the Wednesday 30th. Hence I’d very much like the tasting to not be on Tuesday 29th.

[DRT]

That is assured by the fact that all particiants have voted for Monday the 28th

Derek

[Simon Lisle]

I have booked the flights and can offer any two of the following Croft Delaforce,Noval,Dows,

[AHB]

I only have the Fonseca '66 to offer for the tasting. I don't have a large range of '66s since I spend most of my time and money buying my '63 birth year ports.

Alex

[DRT]

Simon and AHB (and anyone else who has 66's),

Could you please send me a PM with prices for the bottles you have to offer.

The discussion above suggests that not many people have lots of 66's sitting around so I think we will have to do this on a port or money basis.

I think I have a Warre's to offer but will have to check.

Derek

[uncle tom]

The discussion above suggests that not many people have lots of 66's sitting around

It is noticeable on the auction scene that 63's are far more common than 66's

Tom

[Simon Lisle]

Which bottles would you like me to bring.

[DRT]

Simon,

Could you please send me a PM with prices for the 66's you have?

Thanks

Derek

[Conky]

Today, I booked Leave for the Monday an Tuesday, to attend this one. With the help of Overtired & Emotional, we have rooms booked, an I will be purchasing the train tickets, anytime in the next 10 days.
So I can probably speak for John and I, We're Coming!
As per our previous conversations, I'm happy with the 66 theme. I am getting weak vibes on availability. I know Tom and Derek are working on this, but if it turns out to be a difficult task, dont forget the 63 v 66 option.
Unlike last time, were I couldn't attend and had other worries, this one is Full Steam Ahead! Bring on the Port.

Alan

[DRT]

During the next few days I will be visiting Tom to pick up some 66s that he has kindly offered to sell us. From memory these are:

Graham's
Noval
Offley
Rebello Valente

Alex has kindly offered Fonseca and an Avery's BOB.

Simon has 4 bottles for which I am waiting on prices.

Jdaw has a few bottles and I would also like prices for these, please?

Jaykay32 has the bottle that started all this in the first place.

I believe we can come up with a spectacular line-up of 66s from this selection at a reasonable price per head.

Any more offers out there?

Derek

[jdaw1]

• BBR 1966 was bought before I was keeping good records, and my spreadsheet says only “~£45”.
  
• Warre 1966 bought from Fine & Rare Wines on 1st August 2003, then costing £48.
  
• Dow 1966 bought in 2005 as part of a mixed lot. Perhaps Uncle Tom could be prevailed upon to choose a price.

[jdaw1]

Attendee List:

1. JAYKAY32 (Guest of Honour)
2. Jdaw1
3. KillerB
4. AHB
5. Simon Lisle
6. Derek T.
7. SteveCage (maybe)

With the addition of Conky, is this still the attendee list? (I might bring a useful something for people, so need to know how many.)

Wine Offers:

• Adams 1966 - JayKay32
• Fonseca 1966 - AHB & Derek T.
• Dow 1966 - Jdaw1, Simon Lisle & Derek T.
• Warre 1966 - Jdaw1
• BBR BOB 1966 (Warre) - Jdaw1

As you can see we are struggling to come up with a wide selection of 66's. However, if Simon does have another 66 which isn't A, D, F or W we could have the following:

• A66 - JayKay3
• F66 - AHB
• W66 - Jdaw1
• D66 - Derek T.
• Other66 - Simon Lisle

Or Simon could ‘adopt’ my BBR BOB (believed Warre), thus allowing comparison between Warre-branded and what Warre sold to BBR. No later than the afternoon of Thursday 24th January I must have a final list of which bottles I’m bringing. And, for placemat (current draft) purposes, what others are bringing as well.

JAYKAY: please would you PM either Derek T. or me (or both) your mobile phone number, to permit on-the-day co-ordination and disaster recovery.

[JAYKAY32]

Hi Chaps,

Just a quick note to let you know i have sent jdaw1 and Derek T my mobile number as requested. Looking forward to 'Going Underground'
with you all on the 28th.

Best Regards
Space Cowboy!!!

[jdaw1]

• Adams 1966 - JayKay32
• Fonseca 1966 - AHB & Derek T.
• Dow 1966 - Jdaw1, Simon Lisle & Derek T.
• Warre 1966 - Jdaw1
• BBR BOB 1966 (Warre) - Jdaw1

1. I will be travelling from, say, 10am, until late afternoon. Do we want the two Warres decanted at –10 hours or at –3 hours? (I’m guessing longer.)
   
2. JK: are you familiar and comfortable with decanting (and indeed, double decanting)? Guessing not, I’ll advise.
   1. Have to hand a clean dry container (like, really clean and really thoroughly rinsed), such as an empty wine bottle.
   2. Have to hand a cork.
   3. Have a clean dry funnel, and an unbleached coffee filter.
   4. From one of your bottles of Adam’s 1966 remove any rubber or wax seal. (If this can be done neatly, such that the seal can be shown to us, that might help with identification. Just in case, take a a good photo before trying to remove it.)
   5. Use your best corkscrew, which of course has an open screw, to remove cork. If the cork breaks it might be necessary to push it in.
   6. Put funnel into empty bottle; unbleached coffee filter into that; pour port through.
   7. When your bottle is empty, rinse it thoroughly with water but no detergent.
   8. Drain the Adam’s bottle a for a few minutes. It won’t be perfectly dry inside.
   9. Move funnel to Adam’s bottle.
   10. Pour in a splash of the juice, only a splash.
   11. Swirl that splash of port around to remove any remaining water drops, and pour away (or into a glass).
   12. In goes the rest of the juice, and on goes the cork from sub-¶b.
   13. Drink contents of glass mentioned in sub-¶k.
   14. Bring double-decanted bottle to Crusting Pipe, with the seal and photo thereof, the Adam’s cork, and a liver.

[Conky]

Jdaw1,

To the list of attendees, you not only need to add me, but also Overtired and Emotional.

Your getting the full North Western contingent. (All 2 of us!)

Alan

[jdaw1]

I had you on the list Conky. And bringing what bottles?

[Conky]

We're both adopting, I hope. Derek is looking into that. That's part of where my 63 v 66 thoughts came from, but Derek is confident we'll source enough 66's and he usually comes up trumps.

Alan.

Sorry about this Jules, but this spellchecker does appear to correct apostrophes!!! Needless to say, I often forget.

[DRT]

Apologies for my absence in recent days.

I can now confirm that Tom has come up trumps once again and I now have 5 66s in my ppsession, including the F66 belonging to AHB. Please add the following to the lineup:

Grahams
Noval
Rebello Valente
Offley Boa Vista
Simon's other 66 that is not Noval or Warre

Please also add Simon's wife to the attendees.

Now we need to work out the port to person ratio and decide whether or not we have enough bottles. We then need to do some behind the scenes cash for bottles deals for those who have no bottles.

Derek

[jdaw1]

Bottles:

1. 1966 Adam’s (JRK);
2. 1966 Dow (SL|DRT|JDAW);
3. 1966 Fonseca (AHB);
4. 1966 Graham (? via DRT);
5. 1966 Noval (? via DRT);
6. 1966 Offley Boa Vista (? via DRT);
7. 1966 Rebello Valente (? via DRT);
8. 1966 Warre (JDAW) {£48};
9. 1966 BBR believed Warre (JDAW) {£45};
10. 1966 Simon’s other (SL).

People:

1. JRK;
2. AHB;
3. DRT;
4. JDAW;
5. SL;
6. KL;
7. ACC;
8. J? (=OT.&E.);
9. ARK (added after being mentioned in following post);
10. Maybe JDAW’s brother APPW.

This information being embedded within the current draft of placemat.

[KillerB]

Oi - why have I been ejected? I grant that I have not found a bottle yet, but I am looking.

[DRT]

It seems that a neat solution is emerging here.

I have 4 bottles of 1966 (Graham's, Noval. Offley and Rebello Valente)that were purchased for an average price of £45 each. Three people here (Conky, O&E and KillerB) do not seem to have a bottle to bring along. Hopefully the solution is self explanatory. If not, please PM me.

A similar solution seems to exist in relation to JDAW's brother and his BBR66, although brotherly love may dictate that no money changes hands.



Derek

PS: Is it worth asking which form of retentive OCD JDAW2 suffers from or should we keep that as a surprise for the night?

[jdaw1]

So who brings the Dow?

And what is SL’s other?

[DRT]

I have booked the flights and can offer any two of the following Croft Delaforce,Noval,Dows,

So who brings the Dow?

And what is SL’s other?

I think Simon should bring the Dow's plus either a Croft (preferred) or Delaforce.

That leave's jdaw1 to bring a Warre's plus possibly a BBR(Warre's) if jdaw2 comes along.

Derek