Alcohol and health
- Alex Bridgeman
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I've just realised that she was only drinking the equivalent of two double magnums of Sandeman Vau per day!
Do we know anyone who's opened a lot of Sandeman Vau double magnums recently? Was he opening two per day? Will he look like the picture next time we see him? Swollen stomach, loss of hair?
Do we know anyone who's opened a lot of Sandeman Vau double magnums recently? Was he opening two per day? Will he look like the picture next time we see him? Swollen stomach, loss of hair?
Top Ports in 2023: Taylor 1896 Colheita, b. 2021. A perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
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We English eat so healthily that, if the Scots and Welsh and the other lot were to do the same, 4k lives a year would be saved.
Really!
Who knew?
Really!
Who knew?
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Presumably the WHO acknowledges that the sugar in ketchup is neutralised by the salt in chips. Though my quick skim-through failed to find that bit.The World Health Organisation, in opening a [url=http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/notes/2014/consultation-sugar-guideline/en/]public consultation on draft sugars guideline[/url], wrote: WHO’s current recommendation, from 2002, is that sugars should make up less than 10% of total energy intake per day. The new draft guideline also proposes that sugars should be less than 10% of total energy intake per day. It further suggests that a reduction to below 5% of total energy intake per day would have additional benefits. Five per cent of total energy intake is equivalent to around 25 grams (around 6 teaspoons) of sugar per day for an adult of normal Body Mass Index (BMI).
The suggested limits on intake of sugars in the draft guideline apply to all monosaccharides (such as glucose, fructose) and disaccharides (such as sucrose or table sugar) that are added to food by the manufacturer, the cook or the consumer, as well as sugars that are naturally present in honey, syrups, fruit juices and fruit concentrates.
Much of the sugars consumed today are “hidden” in processed foods that are not usually seen as sweets. For example, 1 tablespoon of ketchup contains around 4 grams (around 1 teaspoon) of sugars. A single can of sugar-sweetened soda contains up to 40 grams (around 10 teaspoons) of sugar.
The draft guideline was formulated based on analyses of all published scientific studies on the consumption of sugars and how that relates to excess weight gain and tooth decay in adults and children.
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They seem to be mounting a two-pronged attack on Port. Alcohol and sugar are both bad? Oh my.jdaw1 wrote:Presumably the WHO acknowledges that the sugar in ketchup is neutralised by the salt in chips. Though my quick skim-through failed to find that bit.The World Health Organisation, in opening a [url=http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/notes/2014/consultation-sugar-guideline/en/]public consultation on draft sugars guideline[/url], wrote: WHO’s current recommendation, from 2002, is that sugars should make up less than 10% of total energy intake per day. The new draft guideline also proposes that sugars should be less than 10% of total energy intake per day. It further suggests that a reduction to below 5% of total energy intake per day would have additional benefits. Five per cent of total energy intake is equivalent to around 25 grams (around 6 teaspoons) of sugar per day for an adult of normal Body Mass Index (BMI).
The suggested limits on intake of sugars in the draft guideline apply to all monosaccharides (such as glucose, fructose) and disaccharides (such as sucrose or table sugar) that are added to food by the manufacturer, the cook or the consumer, as well as sugars that are naturally present in honey, syrups, fruit juices and fruit concentrates.
Much of the sugars consumed today are “hidden” in processed foods that are not usually seen as sweets. For example, 1 tablespoon of ketchup contains around 4 grams (around 1 teaspoon) of sugars. A single can of sugar-sweetened soda contains up to 40 grams (around 10 teaspoons) of sugar.
The draft guideline was formulated based on analyses of all published scientific studies on the consumption of sugars and how that relates to excess weight gain and tooth decay in adults and children.
Sound the alarm. Pass out the torches and pitchforks.
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Health fanatics fail to explain continued survival of human race. Good story.
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Oh, you think that they are two terrible extremes, never to be had in isolation without being neutralised by the other (or by salt, of course)? That works for me.Glenn E. wrote:Alcohol and sugar
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I'm quite certain that acid is bad for you, too, if ingested willy-nilly.jdaw1 wrote:Oh, you think that they are two terrible extremes, never to be had in isolation without being neutralised by the other (or by salt, of course)? That works for me.Glenn E. wrote:Alcohol and sugar
You see, it's all about balance. The proper balance of sugar, alcohol, and acid can be quite pleasant. Especially when derived from grapes.
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As a doctor - in urban legend, at least - is reported to have said:
"If you give up smoking, you'll live an additional 5-10 years"
"If you give up drinking, you'll live an additional 5-10 years"
"If you eat healthy foods, you'll live an additional 5-10 years"
Why on earth would anyone want to live an extra 15-30 years in such pitiable circumstances?
"If you give up smoking, you'll live an additional 5-10 years"
"If you give up drinking, you'll live an additional 5-10 years"
"If you eat healthy foods, you'll live an additional 5-10 years"
Why on earth would anyone want to live an extra 15-30 years in such pitiable circumstances?
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I have discovered that PX is much worse for a type-I diabetic than is Port. It raises my sugar massively more than does VP. Perhaps it has a different type of sugar.
So, available free to readers of this thread who attend tastings are three bottles (well, ⅔-sized bottles) of Sandeman’s Royal Ambrosante Pedro Ximenez Sherry aged 20 years. Jolly good stuff, but unsuited to my medical status.
So, available free to readers of this thread who attend tastings are three bottles (well, ⅔-sized bottles) of Sandeman’s Royal Ambrosante Pedro Ximenez Sherry aged 20 years. Jolly good stuff, but unsuited to my medical status.
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Sorry to hear. Yes please!
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I would love a bottle of Sandeman PX, but probably won't see you before they are gone. A pity.
Glenn Elliott
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Two gone (DJ + GEE). One and a fraction remain. Fraction to be quality-controlled at a tasting.
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“With swimsuit season on the horizon” readers might welcome some Tips For Getting In Shape.
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Wikipedia wrote:Jeanne Louise Calment … 21 February 1875 – 4 August 1997)… was a French supercentenarian who had the longest confirmed human lifespan in history, living to the age of 122 years, 164 days.
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Calment smoked from the age of 21 (1896) to 117 (1992), … though according to an unspecified source, she smoked no more than two cigarettes per day towards the end of her life. …
Calment ascribed her longevity and relatively youthful appearance for her age to a diet rich in olive oil, and rubbed onto her skin, as well as a diet of port wine, and ate nearly one kilogram (2.2 lb) of chocolate every week. Calment reportedly remained mentally intact until her very end.
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George Robertson, in his book [i]Port[/i] wrote:
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Man, I've been putting the wrong things on my resume!djewesbury wrote:George Robertson, in his book [i]Port[/i] wrote:
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Exactly. I think there's a lesson here for us all.CaliforniaBrad wrote: Man, I've been putting the wrong things on my resume!
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Anthony Habert of Stevens Garnier found the numbers. The PX Sherry has almost 4× the sugar of port. It wasn’t type, it was just quantity and concentration.jdaw1 wrote:I have discovered that PX is much worse for a type-I diabetic than is Port. It raises my sugar massively more than does VP. Perhaps it has a different type of sugar.
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That reminds me. Can you bring my bottle on the 16th please? And thank you.
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ArsTechnica writes that Fossilized poop shows that Neanderthals ate their veggies. The article failed to mention that the Neanderthals went extinct — perhaps because of the vegetables.
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I thought we all had a bit of Neanderthal DNA left in us?
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Vegetables are good. I like vegetables. Really, I do. Honestly. I think. Maybe. Perhaps not. They are okay I suppose. Acceptable is a better description. Nearly acceptable. Tolerable? No, I hate them.
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
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Is that your inner Neanderthal talking?
I read in the New Scientist that our ancestors used the TB microbes in their gut to compensate for shortages of meat, since TB excretes nicotinamide, which we only otherwise get from meat. My unscientific mind was amazed by the idea of our having originally harboured TB as a symbiotic gut fauna.
I read in the New Scientist that our ancestors used the TB microbes in their gut to compensate for shortages of meat, since TB excretes nicotinamide, which we only otherwise get from meat. My unscientific mind was amazed by the idea of our having originally harboured TB as a symbiotic gut fauna.
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Very sensible. Then it goes downhill.Wine Folly, in an article entitled [url=http://winefolly.com/update/does-wine-make-you-fat/]Does Wine Make You Fat?[/url], wrote:How to stay healthy and drink wine
• Eat protein before you drink
Have some quality protein before you drink. Long sustaining energy calories will help curb your craving while you drink.
A “bottle of wine is not a single serving”: hurray for the double magnum.Wine Folly, in an article entitled [url=http://winefolly.com/update/does-wine-make-you-fat/]Does Wine Make You Fat?[/url], wrote:• Stick to moderate drinking
Unfortunately, a bottle of wine is not a single serving. It’s important to understand your own limits. If you’re 140 pounds or under, you should stick to just one drink and only 2 if you’re over that weight.