Port Vintages: Addendum

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Port Vintages: Addendum

Post by jdaw1 » 20:24 Thu 19 Sep 2019

Since publishing Port Vintages late in 2018, omissions have been discovered, and readers have sent more information. An Addendum, or at least a draft of one, has been written.

There are two versions: Addendum_Printable.pdf is a 31 megabyte files with pictures at full resolution — use for printing; whereas Addendum_LowResolution.pdf is only 3.3 megabytes and intended for screens.

Currently the existence of the Addendum is is being broadcast only to my friends on ThePortForum.com, in the hope that their comments might improve the document before it reaches a wider audience. Later it will be announced to the mailing list, and elsewhere.

Comments welcomed; actionable comments even more so.

Thank you.

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Re: Port Vintages: Addendum

Post by akzy » 22:35 Thu 19 Sep 2019

Could I request that the addendum also be in a form of page additions as opposed to one whole document? For instance, separating suppliers such that the page could be added just into that section. Also might be necessary to separate by age for some of the longer supplier sections. I suspect the addition of 28 pages in and around this behemoth will do little to effect the physical structure over time.

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Re: Port Vintages: Addendum

Post by akzy » 22:42 Thu 19 Sep 2019

akzy wrote:
22:35 Thu 19 Sep 2019
Also might be necessary to separate by age for some of the longer supplier sections.
On second thought, I think this is a terrible idea.

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Re: Port Vintages: Addendum

Post by gerwin.degraaf » 23:36 Fri 27 Sep 2019

Regarding the Fonseca Guimaerens 1947 VP. Some years ago I bought 3 bottles. I've still got them (haven't opened one yet).

I shall look up where I bought them, and send some pictures if to JDAW.

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Re: Port Vintages: Addendum

Post by jdaw1 » 12:55 Sun 13 Oct 2019

The preface to Port Vintages hinted that there might be a publication of additions and errata. And some readers have attentively studied the whole book, a mere 390k words, and sent such corrections. So an Addendum is now published.

Links: I suggest waiting a week before printing, until Sun 20th Oct 2019, to allow time for any further comment and corrections (the first draft was posted on ThePortForum; this is also being shown to FTLOP).

But further data is welcomed, whether sooner or later. Please do send any extra material, comment, criticism, unbridled praise, and — most important — invitations to taste Dow 1878.

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Re: Port Vintages: Addendum

Post by jdaw1 » 23:30 Fri 18 Oct 2019

Don’t print yet. Further data is about to come. (It never finishes.)

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Re: Port Vintages: Addendum

Post by jdaw1 » 18:37 Mon 19 Oct 2020

Hello lovers of Vintage Port, and readers of Port Vintages.

It has been awhile, and I’m happy to tell you of some good news.

As you doubtless recall, Port Vintages has an Addendum, with information newly come to light, and also repairing errors (the errors being much regretted). This is all in the Addendum, which has been updated. Hurray! The Addendum can be downloaded from www.jdawiseman.com/PortVintages/Port_Vi ... endum.html.

Please print onto acid-free paper, and enclose in the book.

Of course, even more information would be welcomed.

Enjoy it. Enjoy it with a glass. Stuff and nonsense to the self-restraint: enjoy it with a decanter. At least one.

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Post by JacobH » 21:22 Mon 19 Oct 2020

Thanks very much for this! (A whole decanter might be a bit much for a Monday night but I am certainly enjoying it with a glass).

I’m not sure if here is the right place to ask but can I ask for some more information about the Constantino vintages? I have always really liked their labels (with the “Co” ligature in “Constantino’s” and the “Op” in “Oporto”, together with the epsilon-shaped “e” in “Vintage” on some of them). Do you know if they were used all the way through to the final vintages? One day I might buy one “for the label” and would be a bit sad if they rebranded in 1968 just before giving up on the brand.
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Re: Port Vintages: Addendum

Post by jdaw1 » 23:00 Mon 19 Oct 2020

JacobH wrote:
21:22 Mon 19 Oct 2020
I’m not sure if here is the right place to ask but can I ask for some more information about the Constantino vintages?
I have not stinted my readers on information, nor pictures. What I have, has been shown.

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Re: Port Vintages: Addendum

Post by JacobH » 08:05 Tue 20 Oct 2020

That's fair enough. Thanks again for the Addendum. Now just to find someone who still owns a colour printer!
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Post by winesecretary » 08:18 Tue 20 Oct 2020

@ JacobH - property lawyers...

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Post by JacobH » 09:48 Tue 20 Oct 2020

winesecretary wrote:
08:18 Tue 20 Oct 2020
@ JacobH - property lawyers...
Thanks! This reminds me that my chambers’ printers will do high-quality colour. Although, based on previous experience, I am not sure if it is possible to print anything on them without strictly complying with Sedley’s Law of Documents...
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Post by winesecretary » 10:50 Tue 20 Oct 2020

@jdaw1 - Thank you once again for this document, it is much appreciated and I have forwarded the link to the two people to whom I gave copies of The Book. I read it last night with some of a slightly disappointing Cockburn Crusting, bottled 1978.

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Re: Port Vintages: Addendum

Post by slateshalehead » 16:07 Tue 20 Oct 2020

Out of curiosity, is anyone aware of where (if anywhere) the original book can still be purchased?

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Post by Glenn E. » 19:07 Tue 20 Oct 2020

slateshalehead wrote:
16:07 Tue 20 Oct 2020
Out of curiosity, is anyone aware of where (if anywhere) the original book can still be purchased?
I believe the only place it could ever be purchased was from jdaw1 directly.
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Re: Port Vintages: Addendum

Post by jdaw1 » 19:19 Tue 20 Oct 2020

slateshalehead wrote:
16:07 Tue 20 Oct 2020
Out of curiosity, is anyone aware of where (if anywhere) the original book can still be purchased?
Sold out. Sorry — just not available.

There are background noises of a second edition, including the Addendum. So far these are merely background noises. But just in case, subscribe to the mailing list via PortVintages.com.

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Re: Port Vintages: Addendum

Post by jdaw1 » 22:38 Tue 20 Oct 2020

winesecretary wrote:
10:50 Tue 20 Oct 2020
I read it last night with some of a slightly disappointing Cockburn Crusting, bottled 1978.
Unacceptable. Try again. Re-read it with a better bottle.

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Post by AHB » 22:51 Tue 20 Oct 2020

jdaw1 wrote:
22:38 Tue 20 Oct 2020
winesecretary wrote:
10:50 Tue 20 Oct 2020
I read it last night with some of a slightly disappointing Cockburn Crusting, bottled 1978.
Unacceptable. Try again. Re-read it with a better bottle.
I’ve been reading it with a bottle of Graham 1963 (Grants of St James bottling). It’s a much better read.
Top Ports in 2019: Niepoort VV (1960s bottling) and Quinta do Noval Nacional 2017
Top Ports in 2020 (so far): Croft 1945 and Niepoort VV (1960s bottling)

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Re: Port Vintages: Addendum

Post by AHB » 23:04 Tue 20 Oct 2020

Julian - I’ve got a PDF version which I’m reading on my screen, but it’s lacking that lovely tactile-ness of a book.

Is there any chance of you offering this in printed and bound format (for an appropriate but not excessive fee)?
Top Ports in 2019: Niepoort VV (1960s bottling) and Quinta do Noval Nacional 2017
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Post by Glenn E. » 23:07 Tue 20 Oct 2020

AHB wrote:
23:04 Tue 20 Oct 2020
Is there any chance of you offering this in printed and leather-bound format (for an appropriate but not excessive fee)?
FTFY
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Post by winesecretary » 23:14 Tue 20 Oct 2020

You are probably talking thesis-binding rates for small runs, so circa fifty quid a copy...

... leather-bound extra.

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Re: Port Vintages: Addendum

Post by uncle tom » 14:26 Wed 21 Oct 2020

One small addition that would be welcome, a job that used to be regarded in the publishing world as the most tedious of all chores, but for which there is probably now some very clever software; is a master index, giving the page numbers where every proper noun appears.

If you do a second ed. I'll also take the leather bound version thanks!
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Post by nac » 15:31 Wed 21 Oct 2020

jdaw1 wrote:
19:19 Tue 20 Oct 2020
slateshalehead wrote:
16:07 Tue 20 Oct 2020
Out of curiosity, is anyone aware of where (if anywhere) the original book can still be purchased?
Sold out. Sorry — just not available.
Unsurprisingly no second hand copies available on eBay or Amazon.
Plenty of copies of JDAW's magnum opus, "The Pig: A British History" though.

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Post by DRT » 21:54 Wed 21 Oct 2020

nac wrote:
15:31 Wed 21 Oct 2020
jdaw1 wrote:
19:19 Tue 20 Oct 2020
slateshalehead wrote:
16:07 Tue 20 Oct 2020
Out of curiosity, is anyone aware of where (if anywhere) the original book can still be purchased?
Sold out. Sorry — just not available.
Unsurprisingly no second hand copies available on eBay or Amazon.
Plenty of copies of JDAW's magnum opus, "The Pig: A British History" though.
This is JDAW's previously published work. The books about pigs and other animals are by a different JW.
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Post by JacobH » 21:56 Wed 21 Oct 2020

DRT wrote:
nac wrote:
15:31 Wed 21 Oct 2020
jdaw1 wrote:
19:19 Tue 20 Oct 2020
slateshalehead wrote:
16:07 Tue 20 Oct 2020
Out of curiosity, is anyone aware of where (if anywhere) the original book can still be purchased?
Sold out. Sorry — just not available.
Unsurprisingly no second hand copies available on eBay or Amazon.
Plenty of copies of JDAW's magnum opus, "The Pig: A British History" though.
This is JDAW's previously published work. The books about pigs and other animals are by a different JW.
That's what he would have you believe. Have you ever seen both JWs in the same room together?
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