1980 Horizontal, 20 October 2021, B&F

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winesecretary
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1980 Horizontal, 20 October 2021, B&F

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1980 vintage horizontal - Red Room at the Boot and Flogger, 1800 for 1830, 20 October 2021

Attendee list and wines list updated as at 16/10/21 15:18

1. GEAG - [Tony's] Croft Roeda, [Julian's] Noval Nacional
2. OJW (Dow)
3. CPR1 (Taylor)
4. uncle_tom (Calem Foz) [Gould Campbell]
5. idj123 (Graham)
6. nac (Warre)
7. M.Charlton (Burmester)
8. HTWH (adopting Niepoort from CPR1)
9. DaveRL (Offley Boa Vista)
10. CMAG (adopting Sandeman from nac)
11. akzy (adopting Smith Woodhouse from uncle_tom)
12. JacobH (adopting Fonseca from GEAG [although actually it's Tony's])

In terms of who we are expecting to turn up with what - all double-decanted earlier in the day, please:

GEAG will turn up with the NN
OJW will turn up with the Dow
CPR1 will turn up with the Taylor and the Niepoort (the Ni for Harry to adopt)
uncle_tom will turn up with the Calem Foz, the Smith Woodhouse and the Gould Campbell (the SW being for akzy to adopt and the GC being a group adoption)
idj123 will turn up with the Graham
nac will turn up with the Warre and the Sandeman (the Sandeman for CMAG to adopt)
M.Charlton will turn up with the Burmester
DaveRL with turn up with the Offley Boa Vista
The Fonseca and the Croft Roeda are already on site

[Earlier arrangement details below]

Additional possibilities:

(i) Borges
(ii) Barros
(iii) Kopke
(iv) Ferreira
(v) Ramos Pinto
(vi) Royal Oporto
(vii) Quarles Harris

Considered as possibilities and for reasons set out put to one side:

(i) BBR (as it is Warre)
(ii) Delaforce Corte (poorly reported)
(iii) Hutchison (poorly reported)
(iv) Real Vinicola (no data)
(v) Real Companhia Velha (no data)



Current drafts of the placemats, the design being based on that of the 1980 horizontal in Leverkusen on 02 March 2012 (pdf, in list, review).
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Re: 1980 Horizontal, Tuesday 24th November, B&F

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Yes please. I have:
CrR
GC
G

Also considering getting some W and D.
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Yes please

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Re: 1980 Horizontal, Tuesday 24th November, B&F

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Yes please... I have a Dow to offer
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Yes please
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Yes please.
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Yes please.
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TC: did you mean to accept twice? If not, may I — or you — delete one of the duplicates?
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Yes please. Will have to check what I've got.
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Yes - please delete the duplicate.

I have

Barros
Burmester
Croft Roeda
Kopke
Warre
Dow
Taylor
Fonseca
Niepoort
SW
GC

Let me know what you need (soonish) and I will put them aside.
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Yes please.
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yes please
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Yes please
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Yes please
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I can offer Sandeman, Niepoort, Taylor, Warre and BBR (Warre)
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@forest26 - That is a remarkably extensive list of 1980s. You can, I think, reasonably assume that where someone else has the port then you won't be called upon to provide it for adoption. That still might, as at instant date, leave you supplying Barros, Burmester, Kopke, Fonseca, and Smith Woodhouse but the likelihood is we will chip that list down over the next nine months. Thank you!
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Yes please.
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Yes please. I’ll check what I have later.
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And we're full. Given the length of time before the event, we can list a number of reserves.
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nac wrote: 21:16 Mon 03 Feb 2020 Yes please. Will have to check what I've got.
Checked and have nothing - pretty sure there was in the past...

Plans afoot for D & W acquisition but suspect that won't help much, so will probably need to adopt.
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Re: 1980 Horizontal, Tuesday 24th November, B&F

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I have F, G, W, SW, GC (mag) and QH (mag).
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I have Dow and can try and purchase something missing if needed
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Re: 1980 Horizontal, Tuesday 24th November, B&F

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@CMAG - thank you. If you are looking in the market, please could you look to pick up one of Borges, Calem Foz, Ferreira, Offley Boa Vista, Quarles Harris or Ramos Pinto?

[We are currently missing from the list the following wines of which I am aware:

1. Borges
2. Calem Foz
3. Delaforce Corte
4. Ferreira
5. Hutcheson
6. Offley Boa Vista
7. Quarles Harris (in bottle; we have been offered a magnum which is extremely generous but which I would prefer to enable the owner to save opening for another occasion)
8. Ramos Pinto
9. Real Vinicola
10. Real Companhia Velha

However we already have 16 16 bottles (plus the magnum, were we to accept it). I consider 18 ideal and 21 an absolute limit. So, pruning ongoing.

(a) I will check with CPR 1 whether the Berry's Own selection is the same blend as the Warre VP and if so I suggest we drop it.
(b) I will check in my own cellar whether the Royal Oporto is a Colheita or not (my cellar diary is unclear) and if it is a Colheita I will drop it. [Checked: The Royal Oporto is a full VP]
(c) The Delaforce Corte and Hutcheson have poor reputations and I propose we ignore them.
(d) Real Vinicola & Real Companhia Velha ports from this vintage I have no data on.]
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I understand BBR is Warre (same blend) capsule and cork say Warre, but BBR label.

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Re: 1980 Horizontal, Tuesday 24th November, B&F

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Charles, that's prompt, helpful and conclusive. Thank you. I will remove that one from the list. It is thus looking very likely you will be asked to provide the Sandeman.
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