1994s, Tue 16 Nov 2021

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1994s, Tue 16 Nov 2021

Post by jdaw1 » 21:21 Thu 18 Mar 2021

This post to hold plans as and when agreed.

Date: Tue 16 Nov 2021

Where: The Red Room, Boot & Flogger. (Reservation acknowledged and accepted by Gary at 15:07 on Wed 31 Mar 2021. Confirmed by the computer Tue 07 Sep 2021, “14 people on Tuesday 16 November 5pm to 11pm … reference: DMN-16738297119”.)

People:
  1. JDAW;
  2. SCD;
  3. PW;
  4. TC;
  5. AHB;
  6. CPR;
  7. MPM;
  8. JMK;
  9. WHW;
  10. GEE;
  11. RON;
  12. IDJ;
  13. GEAG;
  14. NAC.
Waitlist: Bottles available, a subset of which chosen:
  1. Burmester — WHW;
  2. Cá = Cálem — JMK, HWH;
  3. Ck = Cockburn — IDJ, HWH;
  4. Cr = Croft — TC, HWH;
  5. Df = Delaforce — IDJ;
  6. D = Dow — JMK, WHW, CPR, GEAG, GEE;
  7. EV = Eira Velha — CPR, HWH;
  8. Fr = Ferreira — WHW;
  9. F = Fonseca — GEE, TC, PW (inconvenient);
  10. GC = Gould Campbell — GEAG, NAC;
  11. G = Graham — JMK, WHW, CPR, PW (inconvenient), GEE, GEE (magnum), HWH, HWH (magnum);
  12. K = Kopke — CPR;
  13. Mz = Martinez — AHB, HWH;
  14. Ni = Niepoort — WHW, HWH, PW cask sample in ½;
  15. N = Noval — JMK, GEE;
  16. NN = Noval Nacional — TC;
  17. Ps = Passadouro — NAC, HWH;
  18. P&W = Paxton & Whitfield — AHB;
  19. QH = Quarles Harris — HWH;
  20. RP = Ramos Pinto — WHW, GEE;
  21. RPE = Ramos Pinto Ervamoira — CPR;
  22. Ra = Romaneira — WHW;
  23. Rs = Rosa — GEAG, PW, NAC;
  24. RO = Royal Oporto — PW;
  25. S = Sandeman — JMK, HWH;
  26. SW = Smith Woodhouse — GEAG;
  27. Ts = Tesco (QH?) — JMK;
  28. T = Taylor — JMK, GEAG, GEE (magnum), NAC, NAC (magnum);
  29. V = Vesuvio — GEAG, PW (inconvenient), GEE;
  30. W = Warre — GEAG, PW (inconvenient), HWH, HWH (double-magnum).
Current draft of the placemats.
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Re: 1994s, Tue 16 Nov 2021

Post by jdaw1 » 21:21 Thu 18 Mar 2021

My recollection of the 1994 disagrees with that of others whose judgement I respect. You know what this means.

Tuesday 16th November 2021?

Edit — previous 1994 horizontals:

How big a tasting? The binding constraint might be table size. The Red Room table is tight with fourteen × 3 × A4. If there are nineteen glasses we can use A3 + A4, underlapping the A4 by ≈64mm. (Radius ≈ 118.978pt ≈ 1.65″ ≈ 41.97mm.)

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Or twenty-one on A2 trimmed to be 1″ = 25.4mm taller than A4, and 86.0mm ≈ 3.39″ less wide than 3×A4. (Radius ≈ 122.841pt ≈ 1.71″ ≈ 43.34mm.)

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Original plan was nineteen; later upgraded to twenty-one.



Which Ports?

This part of the post will be edited as the set of available Ports changes.

Currently available are 30 different 1994s: B, Cá, Ck, Cr, Df, D, EV, Fr, F, GC, G, K, Mz, Ni, N, NN, Ps, QH, RP, RPE, Ra, Rs, RO, S, SW, Ts, T, V, W.

Wine-Searcher suggests that availability is:
Good — Ck, Cr, D, F (expensive), G, QH, Rs, SW, T, V, W;
Some — Df, GC, Ni, N (expensive), NN (expensive), Ps, RP, S, Sk;
Little — B, Cá, EV, Fr, K, RPE, Ra, RO, Ts.

• Exclude NN on grounds of cost.
• So prioritise the RP-RPE pair over the N-NN pair (also see comment of GEAG).
• The purported Skeffington has already been drunk (!), and has been replaced with Kopke.
• General agreement to remove pre-Symington Cockburn, it being replaced with Cálem.
• Team seemed keen on Mz; and I on Fr.

Updated selection: Cá, Cr, Df, D, Fr, F, GC, G, K, Mz, Ni, Ps, QH, RP, RPE, Rs, SW, S, T, V, W.

Comment? Agreement? Objections?

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Re: 1994s, Tue 16 Nov 2021

Post by Doggett » 21:21 Thu 18 Mar 2021

Yes please...will check bottles

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Re: 1994s, Tue 16 Nov 2021

Post by PhilW » 21:21 Thu 18 Mar 2021

yes please

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Re: 1994s, Tue 16 Nov 2021

Post by forest26 » 21:22 Thu 18 Mar 2021

Yes please

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Re: 1994s, Tue 16 Nov 2021

Post by jdaw1 » 21:22 Thu 18 Mar 2021

Dates switched Thu to Tue.

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Re: 1994s, Tue 16 Nov 2021

Post by Alex Bridgeman » 21:25 Thu 18 Mar 2021

Yes please.
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Re: 1994s, Tue 16 Nov 2021

Post by CPR 1 » 21:26 Thu 18 Mar 2021

yes please

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Re: 1994s, Tue 16 Nov 2021

Post by flash_uk » 21:26 Thu 18 Mar 2021

yup

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Re: 1994s, Tue 16 Nov 2021

Post by Alex Bridgeman » 21:27 Thu 18 Mar 2021

Justin says "yes please" but he's blocked from accessing TPF.
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Re: 1994s, Tue 16 Nov 2021

Post by Will W. » 21:27 Thu 18 Mar 2021

I'm in.

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Re: 1994s, Tue 16 Nov 2021

Post by Glenn E. » 21:29 Thu 18 Mar 2021

Yes, provisionally. It is difficult to predict my international travel availability this far in advance.
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Re: 1994s, Tue 16 Nov 2021

Post by rich_n » 21:29 Thu 18 Mar 2021

Yes, provisionally!

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Re: 1994s, Tue 16 Nov 2021

Post by Doggett » 21:29 Thu 18 Mar 2021

Ian Johns says yes please

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Re: 1994s, Tue 16 Nov 2021

Post by Doggett » 21:31 Thu 18 Mar 2021

George and Neil also are available and say yes please...

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Re: 1994s, Tue 16 Nov 2021

Post by jdaw1 » 21:32 Thu 18 Mar 2021

Full. What bottles of ’94 do people have available?

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Re: 1994s, Tue 16 Nov 2021

Post by winesecretary » 21:47 Thu 18 Mar 2021

I have Dow, Gould Campbell, Quinta de la Rosa, Smith Woodhouse, Taylor, Vesuvio, Warre

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Re: 1994s, Tue 16 Nov 2021

Post by CPR 1 » 21:57 Thu 18 Mar 2021

jdaw1 wrote:
21:32 Thu 18 Mar 2021
Full. What bottles of ’94 do people have available?
Ramos Pinto - Quinta da Ervamoira, G, D, Erica Velha, Kopke

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Re: 1994s, Tue 16 Nov 2021

Post by Will W. » 22:01 Thu 18 Mar 2021

Dow's
Ramos Pinto
Burmester
Ferreira
Graham's
Romaneira

Piles of the Graham's, Burmester and Romaneira. The rest are single bottles, according to my cellar list.

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Re: 1994s, Tue 16 Nov 2021

Post by jdaw1 » 22:04 Thu 18 Mar 2021

Justin sends that he has: Cálem, Dow, Graham, Noval, Sandeman, Tesco, Taylor.

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Re: 1994s, Tue 16 Nov 2021

Post by PhilW » 22:05 Thu 18 Mar 2021

RO94, Ni94 cask sample in half bottle; W/F/V/G currently unopened in offsite but potentially possible.

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Re: 1994s, Tue 16 Nov 2021

Post by PhilW » 22:18 Thu 18 Mar 2021

oh and QdlR94 :)

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Re: 1994s, Tue 16 Nov 2021

Post by Glenn E. » 22:52 Thu 18 Mar 2021

Dow
Fonseca
Graham (750, magnum)
Ramos Pinto
Taylor (in magnum only)
Quinta do Noval
Quinta do Vesuvio

I may have others, but those are the ones that come to mind immediately.
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Re: 1994s, Tue 16 Nov 2021

Post by Glenn E. » 22:57 Thu 18 Mar 2021

Edited the above to add: Quinta do Noval
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Re: 1994s, Tue 16 Nov 2021

Post by akzy » 22:58 Thu 18 Mar 2021

Yes please.

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