1997 @ 25, Tues 24th May 2022 @ B&F

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1997 @ 25, Tues 24th May 2022 @ B&F

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Have tried a number of the 97s and quite liked them, so thought a tasting of more might be nice. They're 25 in 2022 so why not?

RESCHEDULED - Red Room, B&F booked for Tuesday 24th May 2022.

Attendees [has...]:
  1. NAC [Ch, D, F, GC, QH, NS, Ps (mag), Rs, SV (hlv), T, W] - confirmed for 24/5
  2. AHB [BBR (mag), G, Mz, MzEV, SW, V] - confirmed for 24/5
  3. GEAG [D, F, Os, Pç, VDM, Ni, V] - confirmed for 24/5
  4. MPM [D, G, Mz] - confirmed for 24/5
  5. JDAW [RP] - confirmed for 24/5
  6. TC - confirmed for 24/5
  7. CPR [D, F, V, B] - confirmed for 24/5
  8. IDJ [D, G, RP?, GC, V, CaF] - confirmed for 24/5
  9. RichN [D] - confirmed for 24/5
  10. THRA [N, NS] - confirmed for 24/5
  11. WillW [RP, Br, B, SV, Nv, Os, Pç, Pt, ROC] - confirmed for 24/5
  12. HTWH [GC, G, D, Ni, F (mag)] - confirmed for 24/5
  13. PhilW
  14. CMAG
Reserves:
None

Please indicate what you have available.

The Book and associated Addendum record the following [comments re availability, etc.]:

Desired/required
Avoid/exclude
  • BBR (Warre) [not needed if we're having Warre?]
  • Burmester
  • Calem
  • Calem Foz
  • Calem Sagrado
  • Churchill [not in The Book, but exists]
  • Cockburn
  • Croft Roeda
  • Delaforce Corte
  • Dow
  • Ferreira
  • Feuerheerd
  • Fonseca
  • Gould Campbell
  • Graham
  • Hooper
  • Kopke
  • Krohn
  • Krohn Retiro Novo
  • Martinez
  • Martinez Eira Velha
  • Morgan
  • Niepoort [potential VA issues]
  • Niepoort Passadouro
  • Noval
  • Noval Nacional [rare, £1300+/bt, suggest we ignore this]
  • Noval Silval
  • Offley Boa Vista
  • Quarles Harris
  • Ramos Pinto
  • Royal Oporto
  • Royal Oporto Carvalhas
  • Sandeman
  • Sandeman Vau
  • Smith Woodhouse
  • Smith Woodhouse Madalena
  • Taylor
  • Taylor Vargellas Vinha Velha [rare, £300+/bt, suggest we ignore this]
  • Vesuvio
  • Warre
Current draft of the food order.

Current draft of the placemats.
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1997 @ 25, Tues 24th May 2022 @ B&F

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The line-up:
  1. Taylor - NAC for Team adoption
  2. Fonseca - NAC for Team adoption
  3. Quarles Harris - NAC for Team adoption
  4. Warre - NAC
  5. Martinez - AHB
  6. Vale Donna Maria - GEAG
  7. Sandeman Vau - MPW adopting from WillW
  8. Ramos Pinto - JDAW
  9. Smith Woodhouse - TC
  10. Vesuvio - CPR
  11. Gould Campbell - IDJ
  12. Dow - RichN
  13. Noval - THRA for Team adoption
  14. Noval Silval - THRA
  15. Burmester - WillW
  16. Graham - HTWH
  17. Croft Roeda - PhilW
  18. Vale da Figueira - CMAG adopting from AHB
Placemats to be updated...
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Re: 1997 @ 25, Thurs 20th January 2022 @ B&F

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Yes please.
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Re: 1997 @ 25, Thurs 20th January 2022 @ B&F

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Yes please
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Re: 1997 @ 25, Thurs 20th January 2022 @ B&F

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yes please
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Yes please!
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Re: 1997 @ 25, Thurs 20th January 2022 @ B&F

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Confirming officially here having said yes to Neil in person.
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Re: 1997 @ 25, Thurs 20th January 2022 @ B&F

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Yes please
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Re: 1997 @ 25, Thurs 20th January 2022 @ B&F

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Yes please! I think I only have Dow but as long as I'm in the country I'd be up for this.
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Re: 1997 @ 25, Thurs 20th January 2022 @ B&F

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Yes please. I have a Fonseca and Graham’s available.
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Re: 1997 @ 25, Thurs 20th January 2022 @ B&F

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Yes please. Will check what I have.
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Re: 1997 @ 25, Thurs 20th January 2022 @ B&F

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Sounds good, yes please.
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Re: 1997 @ 25, Thurs 20th January 2022 @ B&F

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CPR 1 wrote: 13:12 Mon 07 Jun 2021yes please
I should have D,F or V easily available. and apparently some Burmester if I look carefully!
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Re: 1997 @ 25, Thurs 20th January 2022 @ B&F

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yes please
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Re: 1997 @ 25, Thurs 20th January 2022 @ B&F

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I agree we should ignore TVVV and NN, more than enough options already.
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Re: 1997 @ 25, Thurs 20th January 2022 @ B&F

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hadge wrote: 16:28 Mon 07 Jun 2021yes please
...and that's 14.

Reserve list open.
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Re: 1997 @ 25, Thurs 20th January 2022 @ B&F

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3.5 hours to fill a tasting. Almost sedate.
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Re: 1997 @ 25, Thurs 20th January 2022 @ B&F

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In the interests of sanity and liver function I propose that we limit this to 16 bottles.

What should definitely be included and what should definitely be avoided?
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Re: 1997 @ 25, Thurs 20th January 2022 @ B&F

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Checking what I have was a bit of a surprise - not in storage I have only the Vesuvio 1997.

Available from duty paid storage I also have BB&R Selection (Warre) in magnum, Martinez, Martinez Eira Velha, Graham, Smith Woodhouse.
Top Ports in 2021: Niepoort Garrafeira 1931; Niepoort VV (1960s bottling) and Cockburn 1969 Single Harvest Tawny

Top Port in 2022 so far: the most stunning bottle of Quinta do Noval Nacional 1931. I have never drunk such a wonderful bottle of Port.
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Re: 1997 @ 25, Thurs 20th January 2022 @ B&F

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I'd prefer to avoid the Niepoort - just too unreliable
Top Ports in 2021: Niepoort Garrafeira 1931; Niepoort VV (1960s bottling) and Cockburn 1969 Single Harvest Tawny

Top Port in 2022 so far: the most stunning bottle of Quinta do Noval Nacional 1931. I have never drunk such a wonderful bottle of Port.
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Re: 1997 @ 25, Thurs 20th January 2022 @ B&F

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Alex Bridgeman wrote: 19:34 Mon 07 Jun 2021 I'd prefer to avoid the Niepoort - just too unreliable
I don't know what you're talking about. It's completely reliable! It is reliably tainted by VA so powerful that it bothers even me.
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Re: 1997 @ 25, Thurs 20th January 2022 @ B&F

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nac wrote: 18:13 Mon 07 Jun 2021In the interests of sanity and liver function
An interest of only a minority of us.
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Re: 1997 @ 25, Thurs 20th January 2022 @ B&F

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:SilverStar:
jdaw1 wrote: 21:45 Mon 07 Jun 2021
nac wrote: 18:13 Mon 07 Jun 2021In the interests of sanity and liver function
An interest of only a minority of us.
I am in that minority!

I’d rather have two tastings each of 14-16 different Ports than one tasting of 28-32 different wines.
Top Ports in 2021: Niepoort Garrafeira 1931; Niepoort VV (1960s bottling) and Cockburn 1969 Single Harvest Tawny

Top Port in 2022 so far: the most stunning bottle of Quinta do Noval Nacional 1931. I have never drunk such a wonderful bottle of Port.
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Re: 1997 @ 25, Thurs 20th January 2022 @ B&F

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Alex Bridgeman wrote: 23:29 Mon 07 Jun 2021
I am in that minority!

I’d rather have two tastings each of 14-16 different Ports than one tasting of 28-32 different wines.
I agree with this.
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Re: 1997 @ 25, Thurs 20th January 2022 @ B&F

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I also agree. Albeit in saying so noting the possibility of two tastings separated by a week. Possibly a 'minors' tasting (e.g. the Osborne, Pocas and Quinta Vale Dona Maria) and a 'majors' (D,F,V etc.) tasting?
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