When does a hobby turn into an obsession?
When does a hobby turn into an obsession?
Following some recent purchases and transfers to my off-site storage facility I have built up the courage to count the number of bottles I currently own. The results were quite suprising to me as I seem to have trippled the number of bottles in my collection since the last time I recall counting them.
I now have 363 bottles of port, at least 90% being VP, and around 150 bottles of red wine.
Should I start to worry that I am becoming slightly obsessive about my interest in Port and wine or am I worrying about nothing?
Derek
I now have 363 bottles of port, at least 90% being VP, and around 150 bottles of red wine.
Should I start to worry that I am becoming slightly obsessive about my interest in Port and wine or am I worrying about nothing?
Derek
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
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Obsession?
Ask yourself, how often do you simply stand and stare at your wine rack?
Nurse! the blinds!
Me- 50% red, 30% white, 10% port (mostly LBV), 5% sherry, 5% fizz. Roughly x250 bottles. I also have around 100 bottles of homemade wine that I rarely drink, most gets given away.
Ask yourself, how often do you simply stand and stare at your wine rack?
Nurse! the blinds!
Me- 50% red, 30% white, 10% port (mostly LBV), 5% sherry, 5% fizz. Roughly x250 bottles. I also have around 100 bottles of homemade wine that I rarely drink, most gets given away.
Vintage Shmintage.
Re: When does a hobby turn into an obsession?
Not unless you’re responsible for most of 20% of the posts on a busy port bulletin board.Derek T. wrote:Should I start to worry that I am becoming slightly obsessive about my interest in Port
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Interesting topic! I think it comes to obsession when you mentally try to go to your happy place and there is a bottle of Port included.
For me it is an obsession. Because of the fact that alcohol is included it is always a dangerous one. Now all of you will stand up and say: no, Im just doing it for the taste. Yeah, me, too, but if you had the choice of VPs with exactly the same taste without alcohol...
Anyways: welcome to the club, Derek. If you start asking yourself this kind of questions, it is already too late. The big secret is now: try to hide it as long as you can from the "outside world" (meaning everyone outside this forum), because no one else will ever understand you.
Axel
For me it is an obsession. Because of the fact that alcohol is included it is always a dangerous one. Now all of you will stand up and say: no, Im just doing it for the taste. Yeah, me, too, but if you had the choice of VPs with exactly the same taste without alcohol...
Anyways: welcome to the club, Derek. If you start asking yourself this kind of questions, it is already too late. The big secret is now: try to hide it as long as you can from the "outside world" (meaning everyone outside this forum), because no one else will ever understand you.
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I have almost exactly the same quantity of table wine as Derek, but have 2166 bottles of port (all bar 105 bottles are VP)
So if Derek's an obsessive, I must be certifiable..
Anyway, there will only be 2165 bottles later, so a small step towards sanity..
Tom
So if Derek's an obsessive, I must be certifiable..
Anyway, there will only be 2165 bottles later, so a small step towards sanity..
Tom
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Re: When does a hobby turn into an obsession?
Personally, I don't think that anything that you have written above would indicate that you are obsessive about your hobby.Derek T. wrote:Following some recent purchases and transfers to my off-site storage facility I have built up the courage to count the number of bottles I currently own. The results were quite suprising to me as I seem to have trippled the number of bottles in my collection since the last time I recall counting them.
I now have 363 bottles of port, at least 90% being VP, and around 150 bottles of red wine.
Should I start to worry that I am becoming slightly obsessive about my interest in Port and wine or am I worrying about nothing?
Derek
The kinds of danger signs to look out for are:
- always thinking about port
- finding yourself sitting on a train and wondering which bottle to open next
- wondering how long it is to the next offline
- wondering whether there are any new posts on a forum related to your hobby
- planning trips and holidays around your hobby
- missing the start of trips and holidays because of the after-effects of your hobby
- spending more on your hobby than you planned
- filling your home-gym with boxes full of your hobby and saying things like "It's not mine, it's all that awful Alex, he forces me to keep it here for him..."
- and saying things like "I only have 25 bottles, I've only been interested for 1½ years". (I think, 1½ years after I became interested I had 11 bottles! 25 after 18 months is quite impressive.)
Alex
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Re: When does a hobby turn into an obsession?
Alex,AHB wrote:Personally, I don't think that anything that you have written above would indicate that you are obsessive about your hobby.Derek T. wrote:Following some recent purchases and transfers to my off-site storage facility I have built up the courage to count the number of bottles I currently own. The results were quite suprising to me as I seem to have trippled the number of bottles in my collection since the last time I recall counting them.
I now have 363 bottles of port, at least 90% being VP, and around 150 bottles of red wine.
Should I start to worry that I am becoming slightly obsessive about my interest in Port and wine or am I worrying about nothing?
Derek
The kinds of danger signs to look out for are:
- always thinking about port
- finding yourself sitting on a train and wondering which bottle to open next
- wondering how long it is to the next offline
- wondering whether there are any new posts on a forum related to your hobby
- planning trips and holidays around your hobby
- missing the start of trips and holidays because of the after-effects of your hobby
- spending more on your hobby than you planned
- filling your home-gym with boxes full of your hobby and saying things like "It's not mine, it's all that awful Alex, he forces me to keep it here for him..."
- and saying things like "I only have 25 bottles, I've only been interested for 1½ years". (I think, 1½ years after I became interested I had 11 bottles! 25 after 18 months is quite impressive.)
Alex
Thanks for the reassuring words. It seems I have nothing to worry about. Phew!
Derek
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
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Oh, I suppose it is allready very serious if a Brit wonders about his obsessions.
I do not count the bottles anymore. But I notice a continued decreasing interest in other wines. I think I will give them all away. They are boring too much. Recently I had to hard-sell myself a very decent priced Bordeaux 2005 (you know, the Bordeaux Vintage of the last 100 years). I said to myself "buy it, cheap, 2005, buy, buy buy!!!". O.k., I did it, but it was no fun.
Cheers
Michael
I do not count the bottles anymore. But I notice a continued decreasing interest in other wines. I think I will give them all away. They are boring too much. Recently I had to hard-sell myself a very decent priced Bordeaux 2005 (you know, the Bordeaux Vintage of the last 100 years). I said to myself "buy it, cheap, 2005, buy, buy buy!!!". O.k., I did it, but it was no fun.
Cheers
Michael
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I've actually been worried about this recently, though I've rather consciously been holding back of late. I'm probably at around 60 bottles of VP, I've ducked into wine stores I pass "just to see," and find myself looking for the port or sake books as the first stop in a bookstore. I've drunk very few of the bottles, they just go into the cellar.
But actually, I reached my goal. I picked up a few bottles from the 80's, thereby filling out the spread, and so now I'm done til another declared vintage appears. The goal is a baker's dozen per big year. So no more buying... well... maybe an off year or two, or a budget, but other than that, time to start drinking em. Make some room. There's always next year.
Unless that SWC 77 is really good, and then I'm going to get more down at sohowines which jdaw introduced me to. woohoo!
But actually, I reached my goal. I picked up a few bottles from the 80's, thereby filling out the spread, and so now I'm done til another declared vintage appears. The goal is a baker's dozen per big year. So no more buying... well... maybe an off year or two, or a budget, but other than that, time to start drinking em. Make some room. There's always next year.
Unless that SWC 77 is really good, and then I'm going to get more down at sohowines which jdaw introduced me to. woohoo!
SN,
There is no hope for you. You have already crossed the line into the Obsessive Zone and it is only a matter of time before you break the 100 bottle barrier, probably by Christmas.
I too live by the baker's dozen rule, although I tend to apply it to half dozens to increase the spread of wines. I find it really unnerving to buy a case or a half case and stick it straight into storage without opening a bottle. The baker's extra bottle is the ideal solution.
I am sure you are drawing much comfort from the fact that you and I suffer from at least one similar trait
Derek
There is no hope for you. You have already crossed the line into the Obsessive Zone and it is only a matter of time before you break the 100 bottle barrier, probably by Christmas.
I too live by the baker's dozen rule, although I tend to apply it to half dozens to increase the spread of wines. I find it really unnerving to buy a case or a half case and stick it straight into storage without opening a bottle. The baker's extra bottle is the ideal solution.
I am sure you are drawing much comfort from the fact that you and I suffer from at least one similar trait
Derek
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
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so half dozen +1 for each year (ed. Or for each house/quinta)? Hmm... my trouble is I like the idea of having enough of something amazing from a good year that I won't feel guilty opening it, but at the same time i like to have a spread from different houses in that year. This gives me the chance to buy 6 of something well recommended and 2 from 3 other houses, plus one "oh what the hell" bottle.Derek T. wrote: I too live by the baker's dozen rule, although I tend to apply it to half dozens to increase the spread of wines. I find it really unnerving to buy a case or a half case and stick it straight into storage without opening a bottle. The baker's extra bottle is the ideal solution.
I apply the +1 rule to any wine i buy. If it's good enough to chance one, its worth getting two in the hopes that I'll be amazed by the first bottle (else the second goes with me to a party).
Must... drink... faster...Derek T. wrote: it is only a matter of time before you break the 100 bottle barrier,
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Ronnie,RonnieRoots wrote:Feeling sorry for myself that I can only reach my stock one or two times a year, I decided that I'm allowed to buy every bargain I come accross. Is that obsessive too?
Other than that I am willing to fly around half the world if a not-to-be-missed offline is organised.
Don't worry, your Obsessive status will remain intact throughout your time in the desert
Derek
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
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Thanks, that's very much appreciated.Derek T. wrote:Ronnie,RonnieRoots wrote:Feeling sorry for myself that I can only reach my stock one or two times a year, I decided that I'm allowed to buy every bargain I come accross. Is that obsessive too?
Other than that I am willing to fly around half the world if a not-to-be-missed offline is organised.
Don't worry, your Obsessive status will remain intact throughout your time in the desert
Derek
I'd say a countdown this precise also qualifies...[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=13669#13669]Here[/url]AHB wrote:I will find out in 8 hours and 12 minutes and 38 seconds...
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Re: When does a hobby turn into an obsession?
When you buy things like this:Derek T. wrote:When does a hobby turn into an obsession?
and this:
Port is basically a red drink