If you had to buy 2 cases of port for everyday drinking

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If you had to buy 2 cases of port for everyday drinking

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What would it be?
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1 case of good, afforadable VP. E.g. Morgan 1991 or Offley 1983.
And 1 case of Niepoort 10 year old tawny.

I'd get by. :)
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I recently saw prices of 25-40/bottle for some of the smaller houses (1994-2000). Rozes, offley, ferreira, martinez, and noval-silval were represented, along with a couple SQs related to them. if that interests you, let me know. I'm hesitant to reveal the place just yet as I have a little shopping trip planned this week :)
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RonnieRoots wrote:1 case of good, afforadable VP. E.g. Morgan 1991 or Offley 1983.
And 1 case of Niepoort 10 year old tawny.

I'd get by. :)
I must admit I 've never really branched out of the taylor tawny's ...

can you compare the 10 yr niepoort to it?
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Quinta do Infantado 85

I remember having this at the emergency tasting with Julian.

$375 for a case, remember saying that it's got a really nice nose and tasting closer to a dry red. But tad thin ... I think this may be my everyday drinking port.

or how bout an 82 Ramos pintos? 25$/bottle
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Morgan 1991, which I must get from Uncle Tom.

Dow 10yo tawny, but only if I can get it at £5 per bottle again.
Port is basically a red drink
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KillerB wrote:Morgan 1991, which I must get from Uncle Tom.
is this the one uncle tom has 50 cases of?
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g-man wrote:
KillerB wrote:Morgan 1991, which I must get from Uncle Tom.
is this the one uncle tom has 50 cases of?
Yup
Port is basically a red drink
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Morgan's 91 for me best port I've had for that money.
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g-man wrote:
RonnieRoots wrote:1 case of good, afforadable VP. E.g. Morgan 1991 or Offley 1983.
And 1 case of Niepoort 10 year old tawny.

I'd get by. :)
I must admit I 've never really branched out of the taylor tawny's ...

can you compare the 10 yr niepoort to it?
No, the Niepoort is usually much better. Not the cheapest in the range, but definitely worthwhile.
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I'm another vote for the Morgan 91. At $200 a case, I have yet to find better value for money for an everyday drinking port.

If the Morgan 91 wasn't available, I'd probably go for the Croft Quinta da Roeda 1995 at $25 a bottle - pleasant, easy drinking and will reward some patience for a few years yet but is readily available in one of the UK's chain wine retailers.

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Has anyone mentioned Morgan 91 yet? :lol: - can't be beaten in the price range IMHO :wink:

If not restricted to VP, I would also throw in a vote for the Noval Unfiltered LBVs which are often available for around £10 or less per bottle.

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Ramos-Pinto 1982

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Ramos-Pinto 1985 at $26ish a bottle. Except that I bought all of it. (Though there is some Ramos-Pinto 1982 at that shop: any New Yorkers fancy a split?)
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jdaw1 wrote:Ramos-Pinto 1985 at $26ish a bottle. Except that I bought all of it. (Though there is some Ramos-Pinto 1982 at that shop: any New Yorkers fancy a split?)
Julian, .. Done. if they have 2 cases, I'd split a case each or if they have a case, I'd do 6 bottles each.
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jdaw1 wrote:Ramos-Pinto 1985 at $26ish a bottle. Except that I bought all of it. (Though there is some Ramos-Pinto 1982 at that shop: any New Yorkers fancy a split?)
that reminds me. did you pop an 85 ramos pinto and check to see if the provenance was good?

I hope it's not like the 79 d'issan sludge.
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Ramos-Pinto 1985

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g-man wrote:that reminds me. did you pop an 85 ramos pinto and check to see if the provenance was good?
Wasn’t one tasted in your company?
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jdaw1 wrote:
g-man wrote:that reminds me. did you pop an 85 ramos pinto and check to see if the provenance was good?
Wasn’t one tasted in your company?
Ah righty, I've pissed away one too many brain cells.
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jdaw1 wrote:Ramos-Pinto 1985 at $26ish a bottle. Except that I bought all of it. (Though there is some Ramos-Pinto 1982 at that shop: any New Yorkers fancy a split?)
Have 3 cases of RP 85 from the same place. What whack job place that is. I've called them for more, and just get the run from the people that work there. Sean and I wanted to clean them out, but they do not know what they have, care to sell it, and the conditions are less the optimal.
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My best bets are:

Sandeman 20 year at NH Liquor store for $35,

Dow's Crusted Port (I think 1999) $25

Dow's Quinta Bonfim 1995 $25

1980 Sandeman Vintage which I have bought a several $35
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jdaw1 wrote:Ramos-Pinto 1985 at $26ish a bottle.
The lowest price available on wine-searcher today is £28 + VAT, so more than twice what you paid. Lucky Wiseboy.

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... that would of course depend on the price. Since I am not drinking a whole bottle of VP per night, I would hardly go for a Vintage Port, except half bottles.

I do not want to be too emotional, but isnt the possibility to have different Ports on different evenings the best. I would always prefer variety. Like a mixed case of half Malvedos or half Vargellas. Something like this.

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Axel P wrote:I do not want to be too emotional, but isnt the possibility to have different Ports on different evenings the best. I would always prefer variety.
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Axel P wrote:... Since I am not drinking a whole bottle of VP per night, I would hardly go for a Vintage Port, except half bottles.
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Hi Axel,

I do not like half bottles, because my wife is allways as greedy as I am. I must confess, to have had some. They were like a kind of toys for us. First she said, "Port, it's not my style". Very funny in the meantime. I do have some 1997 Noval VP in half bottles. And I hate them.

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