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(There was also a link to this post on FTLoP, but it was deleted. Still pretending to be the only port forum on the web. Cool.)
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Presumably there should be a flag specifying whether the water boxes go on the glasses sheets or the TN sheets. If the latter, a possible location is shown in green. (This example derived from the first page of the ‘Placemats’ (meaning stickers and tasting-note sheets) used at The Bell on Thu 15 Dec 2011.)
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Does that work? It certainly intrudes into the space for the last port’s tasting note. Should the boxes be on the other side, so also switching :tpf: ↔ name? Or should the boxes surround the name?

Indeed, should the water boxes always be on the TN sheets?
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I check off on the placements actually since i usually drink some water with pen still in hand after drinking previous port.

This way I check off, put pen down, grab next glass all from the same sheet.
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g-man wrote:I check off on the placements actually since
You probably check the glasses sheets because that is where the check-boxes are, at least currently. But should they be?
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Alternative arrangement in dark red.
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Or the name could be one box to the left, with the boxes starting one row further down (shown in purple).
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jdaw1 wrote:Presumably there should be a flag specifying whether the water boxes go on the glasses sheets or the TN sheets.
Indeed, should the water boxes always be on the TN sheets?
Choices: Tasting Note, Placemat, Both

I might choose both, and print that way, then the taster can decide.
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SushiNorth wrote:Choices: Tasting Note, Placemat, Both
‘Both’ is an excellent suggestion. What should be the default? And where on the TN sheet should the boxes go.

Currently there is a line

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/WaterCounts true def
This might become something like

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/WaterCountLocations /Both def  % /Glasses /TastingNotes /Both /None
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jdaw1 wrote:Indeed, should the water boxes always be on the TN sheets?
No. I have a notebook that I use when taking Port TNs, as do most of the people with whom I taste, so I typically do not even print the TN sheets. Yet I do find the water boxes useful and would like to continue having the option of them being on the placemat itself.
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Glenn E. wrote:and would like to continue having the option of them being on the placemat itself.
Wilco. SushiNorth’s ‟Both” is looking better and better.
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jdaw1 wrote:Presumably there should be a flag specifying whether the water boxes go on the glasses sheets or the TN sheets.
Indeed, should the water boxes always be on the TN sheets?
Btw, I vote for a solid line (clarification: of tickboxes) across the bottom -- after all, I'll probably have it flat on the table, it's good to just be able to tick them casually as I go. Unlike the placemats, they won't be covered with glasses.
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SushiNorth wrote:
jdaw1 wrote:Presumably there should be a flag specifying whether the water boxes go on the glasses sheets or the TN sheets.
Indeed, should the water boxes always be on the TN sheets?
Btw, I vote for a solid line (clarification: of tickboxes) across the bottom -- after all, I'll probably have it flat on the table, it's good to just be able to tick them casually as I go. Unlike the placemats, they won't be covered with glasses.
Agree with horizontal preference over vertical (though am happy with current 'cluster'). Personally prefer them bottom right (since am right handed), either next to the name or would happy with initials being bottom left instead with logo+glasses cluster at right (option: left side for lefties, right side for righties?).
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Henceforth let’s assume right-handed. Obviously sides reversed for lefties.

I think I would prefer having icon and name on the left, and water boxes on the right. The water boxes would be in a cluster, like the green example above, excepting on the right.

Does that work for others?
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That works for me.
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jdaw1 wrote:Henceforth let’s assume right-handed. Obviously sides reversed for lefties.

I think I would prefer having icon and name on the left, and water boxes on the right. The water boxes would be in a cluster, like the green example above, excepting on the right.

Does that work for others?
Sounds fine.
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My preference would be to have the tick boxes on the glass sheet (because I will often make my notes, fold up and safely stow away for later use and then carry on drinking) but where no glass sheets are used then having checkboxes on the tasting notes pages would work.

Of course, instead of glass labels 23 and 24, perhaps I could have had an adhesive water glass label that I stuck on my water glass and ticked off as I went along.
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AHB wrote:perhaps I could have had an adhesive water glass label that I stuck on my water glass and ticked off as I went along.
Interesting idea. If water glasses are large wine glasses, with stem and foot, that might work. But it would be more awkward on a pint glass.
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jdaw1 wrote:
Glenn E. wrote:and would like to continue having the option of them being on the placemat itself.
Wilco.
But what if there aren’t placemats? What if it’s stickies? AHB’s suggestion of a water-box sticky is growing on me and it wouldn’t have to be stuck to a glass.
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jdaw1 wrote:
jdaw1 wrote:
Glenn E. wrote:and would like to continue having the option of them being on the placemat itself.
Wilco.
But what if there aren’t placemats? What if it’s stickies? AHB’s suggestion of a water-box sticky is growing on me and it wouldn’t have to be stuck to a glass.
Or...

we could invest in some of these for use at tastings, obviating the need for tick boxes altogether!

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The nurses would need tick-boxes.
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jdaw1 wrote:The nurses would need tick-boxes.
Good point.

In which case there is some merit to the solution of tick boxes on stickers (that are then stuck to the table/a glass/a watch face/ the back of your palm)

However, tick boxes on placemats should, i feel, be the default. There are not too many tastings that do not involve placemats.
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Perhaps the nurses should only wear stickers?
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RAYC wrote:However, tick boxes on placemats should, i feel, be the default. There are not too many tastings that do not involve placemats.
That is already agreed. We are dealing with the difficult cases, not the ordinary cases.

RAYC wrote:In which case there is some merit to the solution of tick boxes on stickers (that are then stuck to the table/a glass/a watch face/ the back of your palm)
Next I need to think about how to parametrise this.
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In the discussion thread Quantifying opacity
jdaw1 wrote:To assess, look at the circle text through about 1cm of port in a titled glass.
Perhaps we could devise a standard way of doing this by using a feature on the placemats?

Imagine a horizontal bar about 5mm wide running across the bottom of a Placemat or TN sheet. The bar is white at one end and black at the other, with all of the shades of grey in between. Written inside the bar, in a black font, are the gradients 0%, 10%, 20% ! 100%, the latter of which would be invisible.

Now place a tilted glass above one end of the bar and move it along until you cannot read the number below it. That is the opacity of the wine.

Would that work?
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A good idea.

➊ I’d like the test to be based on something standard, recommended by those expert in this field.

âž‹ Different printer resolutions can make different greys appear quite different. Might that confound the attempt at standardisation? (Also, but I think less, different toners might be a problem.)
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