The 20th November London "old (30+) blind initial" offline

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The 20th November London "old (30+) blind initial" offline

Post by benread » 15:15 Fri 31 Oct 2008

In a thread here we have proposed an offline to be held in London, possibly at Portal, on 20th November. Attending so far are:

BenRead
AHB
Christopher
DRT
JacobH

Proposed themes are:
  • Bring something blind
    1994
    Vesuvio Night
    Over 30 years old
    Colheitas R Us
    Anyone for a '63?
    Bring your initial. I would bring any port starting with B or R and I think there are options for the 3 of us. A slight variation on blind.
Additional guests and suggestions welcome.
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Post by RonnieRoots » 12:16 Sat 01 Nov 2008

Although not able to join, I'm more than happy to make a suggestion for a theme. How about: "Independent Day". Bring a bottle from an independent producer.

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Post by benread » 11:57 Sun 02 Nov 2008

RonnieRoots wrote:Although not able to join, I'm more than happy to make a suggestion for a theme. How about: "Independent Day". Bring a bottle from an independent producer.
Does anyone have an easy list of independant producers? This could make a good theme.
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Post by jdaw1 » 15:55 Sun 02 Nov 2008

Any of which you’ve never heard.

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Post by RonnieRoots » 06:14 Mon 03 Nov 2008

A quick (and not complete) list:
- Quinta do Portal
- Quinta do Vale D. Maria
- Quinta do Vale Meao
- Quinta do Vallado
- Quinta do Passadouro
- Pintas (Wine & Soul)
- Quinta do Infantado
- Quinta do Tedo
- Quinta do Javali
- Quinta de la Rosa
- Quinta de Baldias
- Quinta da Peça
- Quinta da Casa Amarela
- Quinta do Crasto

And there are more of course...

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Post by benread » 07:18 Mon 03 Nov 2008

jdaw1 wrote:Any of which you’ve never heard.
...and do not own!
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Post by AHB » 02:50 Tue 04 Nov 2008

Nice list of themes for consideration.

My preference, in order of preference is:
Bring something blind - always a fun theme and I have a few bottles chosen specially for this sort of theme
Over 30 years old - over half of my bottles for the blind tasting would fit with this category, maybe "blind and over 30"?
Bring your initial - nice idea; as a variation and with four participants we could have a theme of PORT with each person bringing a designated letter from the word.
Anyone for a '63 - but I'm drinking one at the moment. However, I'm always happy to drink '63s. How about "bring a port from a participant's birth year".
1994 - I love these ports. I think they are just fabulous and well worth drinking now.

To be avoided (in my opinion only):
Colheitas-R-us - purely a personal preference, but colheitas just don't do it for me in the same way as bottle aged ports
Vesuvio Night - I've just (last Thursday) taken part in a complete vertical of Vesuvio 1989-2007 and would rather not do that again.

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Post by jdaw1 » 03:35 Tue 04 Nov 2008

AHB wrote:Vesuvio Night - I've just (last Thursday) taken part in a complete vertical of Vesuvio 1989-2007 and would rather not do that again.
We do try to avoid a life of hardship.

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Post by JacobH » 18:28 Tue 04 Nov 2008

AHB wrote:Nice list of themes for consideration.

My preference, in order of preference is:
Bring something blind - always a fun theme and I have a few bottles chosen specially for this sort of theme
Over 30 years old - over half of my bottles for the blind tasting would fit with this category, maybe "blind and over 30"?
Bring your initial - nice idea; as a variation and with four participants we could have a theme of PORT with each person bringing a designated letter from the word.
Anyone for a '63 - but I'm drinking one at the moment. However, I'm always happy to drink '63s. How about "bring a port from a participant's birth year".
1994 - I love these ports. I think they are just fabulous and well worth drinking now.

To be avoided (in my opinion only):
Colheitas-R-us - purely a personal preference, but colheitas just don't do it for me in the same way as bottle aged ports
Vesuvio Night - I've just (last Thursday) taken part in a complete vertical of Vesuvio 1989-2007 and would rather not do that again.

Alex
I get a sense that we are moving towards a ‟blind, over 30, preferably being an initial from your name” theme...
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Post by DRT » 23:30 Wed 05 Nov 2008

JacobH wrote: I get a sense that we are moving towards a ‟blind, over 30, preferably being an initial from your name” theme...
That does me :D
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Post by benread » 07:02 Thu 06 Nov 2008

Souns like we have reasonable consensus on the theme! Title changed accordingly. I shall of course now be taking advantage of my full set of initials - BMHR!
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Post by DRT » 10:09 Thu 06 Nov 2008

Christopher will also be joining us :D
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Post by benread » 21:56 Thu 06 Nov 2008

DRT wrote:Christopher will also be joining us :D
Christopher now noted. We are 5!
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Post by AHB » 08:08 Mon 10 Nov 2008

Has anyone booked the venue?
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Post by benread » 09:26 Mon 10 Nov 2008

AHB wrote:Has anyone booked the venue?
On my task list for today!
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Post by benread » 11:59 Mon 10 Nov 2008

The table is booked for 7.30pm in my name. They have agreed £15 per bottle corkage and to reduce this against 1 or 2 bottles of wine from their wine list.

Please note that they will not accept us bringing any port on their own wine list. (Note the port is at the end of the list and I can only see a Cockburns 1967 and a Nacional 1963 that might fit our theme!)

See you all next week.
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Post by uncle tom » 14:35 Tue 11 Nov 2008

Although I'm free on the 20th, Portal's menu does not inspire me, so I shall leave you in peace on this occasion.

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Post by JacobH » 16:26 Tue 11 Nov 2008

benread wrote: (Note the port is at the end of the list and I can only see a Cockburns 1967 and a Nacional 1963 that might fit our theme!)
Drat, will have to save the Nacional for another occasion! :)
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Post by AHB » 01:22 Sun 16 Nov 2008

So let me make sure I understand the theme. On Thursday, I have to bring a bottle of port that fits the following categories:
(a) it is blind - easy, I'll buy some kitchen foil
(b) is made from grapes harvested at least 30 years ago - therefore 1978 or earlier
(c) must be from a shipper whose name begins with one of my initials (AHB)

Out of all the bottles in my cellar, there is only one which fulfils all these criteria!

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Post by jdaw1 » 02:46 Sun 16 Nov 2008

AHB wrote:Out of all the bottles in my cellar, there is only one which fulfils all these criteria!
And I gave it to you.

At least thirty Blind Initials.

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Post by benread » 07:46 Sun 16 Nov 2008

Alex,

It sounds like you may be OK, but I think Jacob has alread decided he will need some discretion with part c of the criteria! I may also need this following a request from Axel for help with our 30th January tasting!

See you Thursday.

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Post by JacobH » 11:58 Sun 16 Nov 2008

benread wrote:Alex,

It sounds like you may be OK, but I think Jacob has alread decided he will need some discretion with part c of the criteria! I may also need this following a request from Axel for help with our 30th January tasting!

See you Thursday.

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That was before I pondered the acquisition route and, after a little searching, it turns out that a wine merchant in the City has something which fulfils all three! However, some flexibility seems in order, especially as some attendees have more conducive initials than others:

B⁷M⁷H¹R¹⁰ = 25
D⁵R¹⁰T² = 17
A³H¹B⁷ = 11
C⁷G⁴ = 11
J¹G⁴H¹ = 7

(Based on the TN index rather than the full shippers list, including names of Quintas).

Also, I think Alex has the hardest set; at least I have a couple of major shippers in the G. The As and Bs seem more obscure!

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Post by DRT » 16:40 Sun 16 Nov 2008

If people a are struggling to find a shipper with the same initial as their own can I suggest that "N"(acional) be declared an acceptable wildcard entry :twisted:

I will be bringing the numbered team bottle covers so foil isn't a necessary requirement.
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Post by AHB » 08:38 Tue 18 Nov 2008

jdaw1 wrote:
AHB wrote:Out of all the bottles in my cellar, there is only one which fulfils all these criteria!
And I gave it to you.

Although true that you did give one such choice to me, these are not at home and so not a choice open to me for an offline at relatively short notice.
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Post by AHB » 08:51 Tue 18 Nov 2008

benread wrote:The table is booked for 7.30pm in my name.
I shall probably be finished with meetings by about 5:30pm and so plan to be in the pub just up the road from Portal (the White Bear) with the pretty barmaid and the free wireless service, from about 6:00pm - possibly earlier if meetings finish early.

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