Port for sale at auction

[uncle tom]

I would be surprised if any of that trio are still drinking well.

..historical curiosities only...

Tom

[g-man]

I would be surprised if any of that trio are still drinking well.

..historical curiosities only...

Tom

indeed, but it would make a good conversation piece when you come visit

[SushiNorth]

I would be surprised if any of that trio are still drinking well.

..historical curiosities only...

Tom

indeed, but it would make a good conversation piece when you come visit

I was most amused by the Fine Tawny Hunting Port; though the murky brown color suggests it actually went on the hunt.
The left-most wine was described as a VP, though analysis of the label makes it clear that it is not. I've seen that so many times now... old port isn't automatically Vintage Port.

[SushiNorth]

FYI, I am bidding in a US auction tomorrow. If you are also bidding in a US auction tomorrow, you are welcome to send me a PM -- we can discuss how good port tastes.

[g-man]

I would be surprised if any of that trio are still drinking well.

..historical curiosities only...

Tom

it just hammered at 320$ pre buyer's .

[SushiNorth]

it just hammered at 320$ pre buyer's .

And we watched a single D63 hammer at $520.

That's what happens when you auction off Bernie Madoff's port. Did we mention the 18% buyers prem and 10% tax? Someone paid an arm and a leg for that historical curiosity.

[Chris Doty]

How did you end up doing at Morrell, sushi?

I was interested in a few lots at Acker on Saturday, but got there a little late, so I only picked up 3 cases of 1970 VP (Taylor, Graham, and Dow).

[SushiNorth]

How did you end up doing at Morrell, sushi?
I was interested in a few lots at Acker on Saturday, but got there a little late, so I only picked up 3 cases of 1970 VP (Taylor, Graham, and Dow).

We were successful in 2 out of 3 of our pursuits. I needed more F94 to fill out that hole, and got 6 for 350 (+18%, =69ea), and went for the F70s as well and got 6 for 480 (+18%, =94ea). The 94's were a great price, the 70's a good price. The W66 we had our eye on went above a fair price and we passed on it.

[Chris Doty]

Excellent work!

I was also curious about the W66 lot, but agree that it went for more than I could justify.

It is amazing how wide a gap there is in the US between port prices at auction and port prices retail. I wonder if that is just because few american drinkers ever consider buying more than one bottle at a time? Curious...

[DRT]

It is amazing how wide a gap there is in the US between port prices at auction and port prices retail. I wonder if that is just because few american drinkers ever consider buying more than one bottle at a time? Curious...

I have read elsewhere that US auctions once had a reputation of being a place where people dumped damaged stock, presumably heat damaged, so it was more of a risk to buy there than at UK auctions. Perhaps that reputation is no longer justified and you are just benefiting from the ignorance of others who think it still presents too much of a risk? If so, I wouldn't let too many people know the truth

[g-man]

It is amazing how wide a gap there is in the US between port prices at auction and port prices retail. I wonder if that is just because few american drinkers ever consider buying more than one bottle at a time? Curious...

I have read elsewhere that US auctions once had a reputation of being a place where people dumped damaged stock, presumably heat damaged, so it was more of a risk to buy there than at UK auctions. Perhaps that reputation is no longer justified and you are just benefiting from the ignorance of others who think it still presents too much of a risk? If so, I wouldn't let too many people know the truth

don't get me wrong, between sushi and i, we've definitely had our misses and hits.

I find the younger stuff to be more hits then misses
with older stuff being 50/50.

you will always find more leakers in the states and when yer buying case lots there are always 3-4 bottels that are "Signs of seepage"

[SushiNorth]

How did you end up doing at Morrell, sushi?

One other point about this, btw. We've realized there are some folks on the forum (lurking, likely) that monitor this thread and the for-sale-by-retailer thread (and even the tasting organization threads) and scoop up decently priced port. Unfortunately, that means we can't mention where or what we've found until after doing our purchasing. It's sad, because sometimes these are short-term sales, or auctions with lots we won't be bidding on. It's why I was ambiguous about which auction we were bidding in, and why we now have to acquire missing ports for tastings before saying where we're getting them.

[uncle tom]

Opening owcs in the 20-30 year age range, I find there are one or more bottles with a seepage issue in about two cases out of five. Mostly it's pretty trivial, and my policy of 'survival of the fittest' sees them drunk in fairly short order.

Old bottles can sometimes weep a little when subjected to the varying temperatures of being transported to a saleroom, but quite often the seepage stops after they have been tucked up in my cellar.

Tom

[g-man]

Opening owcs in the 20-30 year age range, I find there are one or more bottles with a seepage issue in about two cases out of five. Mostly it's pretty trivial, and my policy of 'survival of the fittest' sees them drunk in fairly short order.

Old bottles can sometimes weep a little when subjected to the varying temperatures of being transported to a saleroom, but quite often the seepage stops after they have been tucked up in my cellar.

Tom

I quite enjoy this survival of the fittest policy!

[DRT]

How did you end up doing at Morrell, sushi?

One other point about this, btw. We've realized there are some folks on the forum (lurking, likely) that monitor this thread and the for-sale-by-retailer thread (and even the tasting organization threads) and scoop up decently priced port. Unfortunately, that means we can't mention where or what we've found until after doing our purchasing. It's sad, because sometimes these are short-term sales, or auctions with lots we won't be bidding on. It's why I was ambiguous about which auction we were bidding in, and why we now have to acquire missing ports for tastings before saying where we're getting them.

That's exactly the sort of thing that Private Messages are for

[jdaw1]

Piasa, Tue 14 June 2011, Paris, lots 41 to 47 being variously NN66, N66, NN63, Cr75.

[DRT]

The estimates for the NNs are very low!

[g-man]

FYI:
http://www.ackerwines.com/onlineauctions/Search.cfm

some run of the mill stuff, however the below lot warrants some attention.

I'm at my monthly budget so will be passing
@190 - which after buyer's comes to 230$ is a steal for these for bottles.


New York (lot location)
12743
Fonseca Vintage Port
- Vintage 1985 (2)
Graham's Vintage Port
- Vintage 1985 (1)
Taylor Fladgate Vintage Port
- Vintage 1985 lbsl (1)
Above 4 bottles per lot $240-320


Current Winning Bid: $ 180 (mouton55)
Next Winning Bid: $ 190
Number of

[SushiNorth]

Brits, there's some interesting things up for auction here; the mixed (un-listed) parcel lots at the beginning may be the best value, but there are some other lots which look interesting.

http://www.christies.com/LotFinder/sear ... leID=23159

Meanwhile, I did peruse the US auction list, and if anyone is interested please PM me.

[uncle tom]

Duff link, I think...

Tom

[DRT]

Duff link, I think...

Tom

The format of the url looks like it's a secure area you can only see if you are a member and logged into the site.

[SushiNorth]

Sorry! my ctrl-c has not been working well recently. Link fixed: http://www.christies.com/LotFinder/sear ... leID=23159

[RAYC]

Sorry! my ctrl-c has not been working well recently. Link fixed: http://www.christies.com/LotFinder/sear ... leID=23159

Might be fun to try to pick a case or two up for an offline and see what comes out!

[DRT]

Sorry! my ctrl-c has not been working well recently. Link fixed: http://www.christies.com/LotFinder/sear ... leID=23159

Might be fun to try to pick a case or two up for an offline and see what comes out!

Might be fun for a few of us to throw in £100 each and let our auction expert buy the whole lot as team port?

[RAYC]

Sorry! my ctrl-c has not been working well recently. Link fixed: http://www.christies.com/LotFinder/sear ... leID=23159

Might be fun to try to pick a case or two up for an offline and see what comes out!

Might be fun for a few of us to throw in £100 each and let our auction expert buy the whole lot as team port?

I'd be in.

Could be a bit of a crap-shoot without any listings - here's the link to last year's awards: everything from Morrison's b.o.b tawny and Churchill's Dry White to Dalva 1966 Colheita and Graham's 1980. I suppose these lots could contain a similar range!