LBV - Young and Old; London, 10th and 26th January 2011

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LBV - Young and Old; London, 10th and 26th January 2011

Post by AHB » 01:05 Sat 11 Dec 2010

I was chatting to Derek earlier about Late Bottled Vintage ports and how infrequently we drink them. Only then did I realise that I have more LBV ports than I thought and that these go back to the 1960s.

Would anyone have any interest in an offline themed around mature vintage ports? Say 1999 or older? I have LBV from 1999, 1997, 1991, 1987, 1974, 1968 and 1967.

Any takers? (If not, I'll just drink these as cellar defenders.)
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Post by benread » 07:39 Sat 11 Dec 2010

I would be interested. A variation might be to taste one or two of the currently available LBV's to get a sense of how they may evolve if we do not drink them now!
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Post by JacobH » 12:29 Sat 11 Dec 2010

Do you know how the old LBVs are holding up? I’d be a bit worried about a night of ducks once we got older than 1990!
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Post by DRT » 22:59 Sat 11 Dec 2010

I have a bottle of Taylor LBV 1965. This was the first LBV to be produced on a commercial basis. It is hereby donated to this off-line.

I also have a bottle of Niepoort 1975 LBV. Yes. That's right. 1975 and "LBV" in the same sentence. Consider it "in".
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Post by AHB » 15:36 Sun 12 Dec 2010

JacobH wrote:Do you know how the old LBVs are holding up? I’d be a bit worried about a night of ducks once we got older than 1990!
I quite like Ben's suggestion of a current LBV tasted alongside older ones. There is the academic interest of being able to see what the port is likely to evolve into with enough time, but also the safety of knowing that you are unlikely to have a complete night of ducks.

But, my experience with older LBV going back to the early 1960s is that they tend to be light, elegant and pretty tasty - unless it's a Churchill 1992 which I have tried three times and disliked greatly three times.
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Post by WS1 » 19:03 Sun 12 Dec 2010

Hi there,

I am interested in this tsting as well. However I am afraid to say that I have no older LBVs :(

I believe most of them will age gracefully especially in good years where no vintage port was declared.

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Post by JacobH » 13:05 Tue 14 Dec 2010

AHB wrote:
JacobH wrote:Do you know how the old LBVs are holding up? I’d be a bit worried about a night of ducks once we got older than 1990!
I quite like Ben's suggestion of a current LBV tasted alongside older ones. There is the academic interest of being able to see what the port is likely to evolve into with enough time, but also the safety of knowing that you are unlikely to have a complete night of ducks.
Sounds good to me :-) Shall we set a date? I'm afraid, though that my only old LBVs are a 90s unfiltered Warre and a (half-bottle of) '92 Churchill.
AHB wrote:But, my experience with older LBV going back to the early 1960s is that they tend to be light, elegant and pretty tasty - unless it's a Churchill 1992 which I have tried three times and disliked greatly three times.
I appreciate that I don't quite understand them and that score inflation exists, but I didn't realise that 82 points equated to "disliked greatly"!! :wink:
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Post by Axel P » 11:45 Wed 15 Dec 2010

Good idea, Alex. I have many LBVs from 2000 and keeping them for such a reason. I do have Grahams Literbottle LBVs back to 96, but this acutally is it.

Happy to put them in.

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Post by AHB » 18:18 Wed 15 Dec 2010

JacobH wrote:I appreciate that I don't quite understand them and that score inflation exists, but I didn't realise that 82 points equated to "disliked greatly"!! :wink:
I accept the gentle admonishment. For me, 82 points is a wine I will drink rather than throw away but is probably one that has disappointed me due to some flaws in its composition. Perhaps I was exaggerating unfairly.

I have to be in London on Jan 10 - how would that night suit for this offline?
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Post by Chris Doty » 23:57 Wed 15 Dec 2010

Excellent idea! I think I have a 1986 LBV floating around somewhere. Mark it, dude.

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Post by DRT » 00:02 Thu 16 Dec 2010

As I have two good candidates for this off-line one of them is available for adoption by anyone who doesn't have any old LBVs.

PM or email me if you are interested.
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Post by AHB » 01:05 Mon 20 Dec 2010

If I set the date for this tasting as 10 January 2010, would this cause problems for anyone interested in attending?
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Post by benread » 07:56 Mon 20 Dec 2010

That should be OK for me.
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Post by JacobH » 11:19 Mon 20 Dec 2010

The 10th works for me. Caroline is also keen though she may have to withdraw at the last minute.

I'll bring a Warre 1999 and the 35cl Churchill 1992 ;-)

Shall I suggest Caroline bring a young one or see if she can adopt?
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LBV - Yound and Old; London 26th January 2011

Post by AHB » 15:41 Mon 20 Dec 2010

I've had a request that we arrange this offline on 26th January. On the assumption that everyone is still able to make it, I have changed the title of the thread to reflect the date and theme.

In an ideal world, I would like to have a bottle of LBV from each decade between 1960 and 2010 (don't be pedantic!). If you would like to attend, please could you post here what LBV you could contribute to the offline.

And if the 26th doesn't work for you but you would like to attend - please say so as soon as possible.
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Re: LBV - Young and Old; London, 26th January 2011

Post by benread » 21:47 Mon 20 Dec 2010

Alex. I will struggle to make 26th January as I am out the following evening. Were the date to be as original, or sufficiently far removed from 27th to enable a pass to be requested with some confidence of it being granted, I have a Ramos Pinto 1995 LBV, a Warre 2000 LBV and (hopefully) a Warre 1995 LBV. Also have the 2004 Quevedo. All are unfiltered.
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Post by Cookie » 12:15 Wed 22 Dec 2010

AHB wrote:If I set the date for this tasting as 10 January 2010, would this cause problems for anyone interested in attending?
I am glad you have changed the date otherwise I would have missed this by a mile :lol:
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Post by AHB » 19:02 Wed 22 Dec 2010

Cookie wrote:
AHB wrote:If I set the date for this tasting as 10 January 2010, would this cause problems for anyone interested in attending?
I am glad you have changed the date otherwise I would have missed this by a mile :lol:
Provided you were exactly a year late, no-one would have minded in the least.
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Re: LBV - Young and Old; London, 26th January 2011

Post by AHB » 19:13 Wed 22 Dec 2010

benread wrote:Alex. I will struggle to make 26th January as I am out the following evening. Were the date to be as original, or sufficiently far removed from 27th to enable a pass to be requested with some confidence of it being granted, I have a Ramos Pinto 1995 LBV, a Warre 2000 LBV and (hopefully) a Warre 1995 LBV. Also have the 2004 Quevedo. All are unfiltered.
Perhaps we will need to do this in two instalments. I have a Warre 1974 LBV that might make for a very interesting comparison against a 1995 and/or 2000.

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Re: LBV - Young and Old; London, 26th January 2011

Post by RAYC » 12:29 Thu 23 Dec 2010

I'm keen, and have a couple of interesting older Taylors that could be used.

Either date would be fine for me.

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Re: LBV - Young and Old; London, 26th January 2011

Post by AHB » 15:15 Thu 23 Dec 2010

RAYC wrote:I'm keen, and have a couple of interesting older Taylors that could be used.

Either date would be fine for me.

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Either date, or both dates...

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Re: LBV - Young and Old; London, 26th January 2011

Post by JacobH » 18:46 Sat 25 Dec 2010

The later date is now looking better for me; regrettably I’m not sure that I could make the first.
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Re: LBV - Young and Old; London, 26th January 2011

Post by AHB » 21:49 Sat 25 Dec 2010

JacobH wrote:The later date is now looking better for me; regrettably I’m not sure that I could make the first.
Would that be you or you and Caroline?
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Re: LBV - Young and Old; London, 26th January 2011

Post by jdaw1 » 23:29 Sun 26 Dec 2010

JacobH wrote:The later date is now looking better for me; regrettably I’m not sure that I could make the first.
Could you make the placemats for the first? For me that would be awkward, though not necessarily impossible.

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Re: LBV - Young and Old; London, 10th and 26th January 2011

Post by JacobH » 22:24 Tue 28 Dec 2010

AHB wrote:Would that be you or you and Caroline?
Sorry for the late reply: both of us. Working on talking a +1 into the 26th, too.
jdaw1 wrote:Could you make the placemats for the first? For me that would be awkward, though not necessarily impossible.
Yes, of course, or both, if that would help.
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