3 January 2012 - Dr Dirk in London - TCP

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3 January 2012 - Dr Dirk in London - TCP

Post by RAYC » 11:41 Wed 21 Dec 2011

When: 3 January 2012, 6.30 p.m.
Where: The Crusting Pipe, Covent Garden
Theme: a mini 77 horizontal
Attendees:
1. Dr Dirk
2. WS1
3. jdaw1
4. RAYC
5. DAL (guest of RAYC)
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Re: 3 January 2012 - Dr Dirk in London - TCP

Post by RAYC » 11:47 Wed 21 Dec 2011

Planning details split into new topic from discussion here

My availabilty of 77s, if we were to go down that theme, is as follows:
Fonseca
Taylor
Gould Campbell
Morgan
Niepoort

All are of course available, though i only have one bottle of each of Fonseca and Taylor so would be more than happy to share costs if someone with multiple bottles could provide!
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Re: 3 January 2012 - Dr Dirk in London - TCP

Post by jdaw1 » 12:38 Wed 21 Dec 2011

In London I did have a bottle of T77.

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Re: 3 January 2012 - Dr Dirk in London - TCP

Post by WS1 » 14:05 Wed 21 Dec 2011

Hi,

the 77s I have currently at home from memory are:

Quarles Harris
Calem
Fonseca (from 4 Walls <=> excellent provenance)
SWC (only in Magnum if I recall correctly)
Dow
Gould Campell
Warre (in Magnum and normal bt if I recall correctly :wink: )

:lol:

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Post by jdaw1 » 19:11 Wed 21 Dec 2011

In London I have Sandeman 1977.

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Post by RAYC » 19:17 Wed 21 Dec 2011

Q1. What is a suitable number of bottles per person?

Q2. If the answer to Q1. means we can't include all on the list, which bottles are the most favoured for inclusion?

I would suggest Dr Dirk's opinion should be given extra weight in this regard!
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Re: 3 January 2012 - Dr Dirk in London - TCP

Post by RAYC » 19:19 Wed 21 Dec 2011

jdaw1 wrote:In London I have Sandeman 1977.
I have never drunk a Sandeman 1977...or a Calem 1977. If we decide to open up a Taylor and a Fonseca, it would also be a pity if we cannot muster up a Graham!

I would suggest we stay away from opening magnums unless participation grows by quite some number.
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Post by jdaw1 » 19:36 Wed 21 Dec 2011

First draft of the placemats.
  • Has Dirk Bruns any extra initials?
  • I thought about RAYC’s questions, and reached the obvious decision.

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Post by DRT » 19:50 Wed 21 Dec 2011

jdaw1 wrote:I thought about RAYC’s questions, and reached the obvious decision.
Good decision. But why 2 x QH?
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Post by RAYC » 20:05 Wed 21 Dec 2011

DRT wrote:
jdaw1 wrote:I thought about RAYC’s questions, and reached the obvious decision.
Good decision. But why 2 x QH?
Maybe jdaw1 needs reminding that we will require at least 3 bottles of Dow 77!
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Post by jdaw1 » 20:06 Wed 21 Dec 2011

DRT wrote:But why 2 x QH?
Incompetence. Fixed. Leaving a space for something else!

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Post by DrDirk » 17:57 Thu 22 Dec 2011

This sounds really great :P . Somebody is really thirsty.
Blue Stilton and Port - what else!

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Post by Glenn E. » 18:51 Thu 22 Dec 2011

RAYC wrote:
DRT wrote:
jdaw1 wrote:I thought about RAYC’s questions, and reached the obvious decision.
Good decision. But why 2 x QH?
Maybe jdaw1 needs reminding that we will require at least 3 bottles of Dow 77!
So that you can quantitatively test sensitivity to TCA by providing varying levels while keeping the Port-related variables as constant as possible? Excellent idea, I eagerly await the outcome of your testing.
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Post by jdaw1 » 00:21 Fri 23 Dec 2011

DrDirk wrote:Somebody is really thirsty.
DB is saying, in very polite and delicate words translated directly from German, that we might not have enough bottles. We have a problem.

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Re: 3 January 2012 - Dr Dirk in London - TCP

Post by RAYC » 01:59 Fri 23 Dec 2011

For 4 thirsty people, 6 bottles sounds right!

Looking at this list, my vote would be for the following:

Fonseca (WS1)
Warre (WS1)
Gould Campbell (WS1)
Taylor (RAYC)
Niepoort (RAYC)
Sandeman (jdaw1)

If we wanted to add a 7th bottle: Calem/Quarles Harris/Morgan

Wolfgang - i could supply the GC, but mine is a bit of a ropey looking bottle...
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Post by jdaw1 » 09:16 Fri 23 Dec 2011

My preferences include Niepoort Cálem Morgan.

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Post by RAYC » 10:55 Fri 23 Dec 2011

jdaw1 wrote:My preferences include Niepoort Cálem Morgan.
hmmm...let me see if i can find a guest.

With 5 people, 8 bottles does not seem so OTT.
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Post by jdaw1 » 11:04 Fri 23 Dec 2011

Your list includes some ports that have become regulars at our tastings. If no guest, could we lose a regular rather than an obscure?

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Post by RAYC » 11:22 Fri 23 Dec 2011

jdaw1 wrote:Your list includes some ports that have become regulars at our tastings. If no guest, could we lose a regular rather than an obscure?
The only bottle from this list that i have drunk more than twice in 2011 is, i believe, the Taylor 77...

2x attendees at tastings i have attended include the Fonseca, Niepoort, Warre, Gould Campbell and Quarles Harris.

You are right though - Morgan and Calem have not had TPF outings for some time. Reading the reviews, i can sort of understand why!
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Post by DRT » 11:27 Fri 23 Dec 2011

RAYC wrote:
jdaw1 wrote:Your list includes some ports that have become regulars at our tastings. If no guest, could we lose a regular rather than an obscure?
The only bottle from this list that i have drunk more than twice in 2011 is, i believe, the Taylor 77...

2x attendees at tastings i have attended include the Fonseca, Niepoort, Warre, Gould Campbell and Quarles Harris.

You are right though - Morgan and Calem have not had TPF outings for some time.
So, does that mean Calem and Morgan are not regulars? :wink:
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Post by jdaw1 » 12:00 Fri 23 Dec 2011

If the non-regulars are non-regular for a good reason, that softens my opinion.

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Re: 3 January 2012 - Dr Dirk in London - TCP

Post by AHB » 16:35 Fri 23 Dec 2011

Morgan '77 is OK. I quite enjoy it (therefore it must be light and evolved).
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Post by jdaw1 » 16:06 Tue 27 Dec 2011

I hereby appoint RAYC to be Supreme Dictator of the 3rd-Jan tasting of 1977s. I humbly beseech his Supreme Dictatorship, in the light of the preferences expressed, to decide in the interest of his people what is in and what is not.

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Re: 3 January 2012 - Dr Dirk in London - TCP

Post by WS1 » 17:51 Tue 27 Dec 2011

jdaw1 wrote:I hereby appoint RAYC to be Supreme Dictator of the 3rd-Jan tasting of 1977s. I humbly beseech his Supreme Dictatorship, in the light of the preferences expressed, to decide in the interest of his people what is in and what is not.
too much humble pie over christmas? :o

:lol:

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Re: 3 January 2012 - Dr Dirk in London - TCP

Post by WS1 » 17:53 Tue 27 Dec 2011

AHB wrote:Morgan '77 is OK. I quite enjoy it (therefore it must be light and evolved).
indeed; it is currently very enjoyable and I like it too!!!
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