Upside-Down Union Jacks
Posted: 23:15 Tue 07 Aug 2012
Some pedants are, allegedly, annoyed by Upside-Down Union Jacks.
Please send me photos of like crimes.
Please send me photos of like crimes.
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Use of the term ‟Union Jack” to refer to the national flag of the United Kingdom has been sanctioned by the Admiralty and by Parliament.mpij wrote:on another point of pedantry, if this question is related to Olympics then surely you mean Union Flags not Jacks.
Indeed - The Flag Institute seem to suggest that qualms about using "Union Jack" in all circumstances is a relatively modern phenomenon.jdaw1 wrote:Use of the term ‟Union Jack” to refer to the national flag of the United Kingdom has been sanctioned by the Admiralty and by Parliament.mpij wrote:on another point of pedantry, if this question is related to Olympics then surely you mean Union Flags not Jacks.
Whilst both terms are in current use today, a pedant referring to the flag as the ‟Union Jack” is in the same category as one who adopts American ‟-ize” spellings when the words are of Greek etymology; it is clearly an example of reserve-pedantry, attempting to justify something that is commonly thought to be wrong¹.RAYC wrote:Indeed - The Flag Institute seem to suggest that qualms about using "Union Jack" in all circumstances is a relatively modern phenomenon.jdaw1 wrote:Use of the term ‟Union Jack” to refer to the national flag of the United Kingdom has been sanctioned by the Admiralty and by Parliament.mpij wrote:on another point of pedantry, if this question is related to Olympics then surely you mean Union Flags not Jacks.
In some cases it might be that a flag was to be viewed from the other side of the window: in such cases, no photo was taken, nor criticism made. Where the flag would not be visible from the ‘correct’ side, or where there has been obvious inconsistency, then I have expressed disapproval.JacobH wrote:Some of this pedantry seems to be aimed at the use of single- rather than double-sided flags, which will always cause problems when displayed in a window (though not as many problems as, e.g., the Saudi flag causes).
Two more flag crimes added.jdaw1 wrote:Some pedants are, allegedly, annoyed by Upside-Down Union Jacks.
Please send me photos of like crimes.
Two reasons. Firstly, the purpose of questions being asked in Parliament is to seek the view and scrutinize HM’s Government (c.f.). The Earl of Crewe was, I think, the Lord President of the Council at that period and therefore a cabinet minister. His answer to the question is therefore an explanation of the views of the government, not of Parliament. For Parliament to give a view, there would need to be a resolution of both houses to that effect. Secondly, the question does not seem to relate to what the correct name for the flag is, but whether it can be flown. The Earl of Crewe may have simply not corrected the asker out of politeness.jdaw1 wrote:The comment about the Earl of Crewe is noted with interest. He was responding, in Parliament, to a question on the subject of the flag, his answer not being in any way subsequently corrected or amended. How is that not definitive?
When looking for upside-down Union Jacks it is best to look at every one, rather than looking at everyone.Andy Velebil wrote:On a trip to London a few years ago JDAW taught me to spot a Union Jack improperly displayed. I now look at everyone to see who's done it right or wrong.
But I must do both if someone is wearing one.DRT wrote:When looking for upside-down Union Jacks it is best to look at every one, rather than looking at everyone.Andy Velebil wrote:On a trip to London a few years ago JDAW taught me to spot a Union Jack improperly displayed. I now look at everyone to see who's done it right or wrong.
The Union Jack Chief of Police has been informed and will take whatever action he feels is appropriateAndy Velebil wrote:DRT, you appear to be correct. Should someone inform them?
jdaw1 wrote:Please could somebody with Facebook expertise make, on the TeamGB Facebook page, a post pointing to www.jdawiseman.com/upside.html or to twitter.com/jdaw1/status/244364511547637761. Thank you.
You owe me five minutes of my life. Too much canned laughter; too little that was actually funny.DRT wrote:Those who enjoyed this thread might also enjoy this.