1983-1985 Double Horizontal on Tuesday 2 April 2013

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1983-1985 Double Horizontal on Tuesday 2 April 2013

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This post reserved to hold agreed arrangements.

Date: Tuesday 2nd April 2013.

Location: The Bung Hole, 57 High Holborn, London WC1V 6DT, tel 020 7831 8365. Booked.

Ports: {Dow, Graham, Warre, Taylor, Fonseca} × {1983, 1985}.

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  1. JDAW;
  2. DJ;
  3. DRT;
  4. THRA;
  5. PW;
  6. AHB;
  7. DRT’s +1;
  8. CMAG.
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1983-1985 Double Horizontal

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At the tasting of some Churchill and some Dow on Wed 06 Feb 2013 we discussed and liked the idea of an ’83/’85 double horizontal.

Those with long memories will recall that there was an event with the same theme in Brooklyn on Sat 13 Sept 2008, at which we tasted {Dow, Fonseca, Gould Campbell, Graham, Noval Nacional} × {’83, ’85}.

It was a good theme, and well worth doing in London. But when, and with which shippers?
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I'm in and offer G83 and T83 as my contribution.

My preference would be to skip the Nacionals on the basis that 80s vintages from that house rarely live up to the hype.
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DRT wrote:My preference would be to skip the Nacionals on the basis that 80s vintages from that house rarely live up to the hype.
It wasn’t meant to be a suggestion of NN, merely a reminder of what was previously tasted.
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I agree that NN is very poor value from that era.

Suggest we avoid those houses that had problems in '85, and go for:

Dow
Fonseca
Graham
Smith Woodhouse
Taylor
Warre

I can supply any, although my SW83 is still in it's owc
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uncle tom wrote:Dow
Fonseca
Graham
Smith Woodhouse
Taylor
Warre
Works for me. When?
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Works for me. When?
I'd like to be there if available; Perhaps one day of weeks starting 4Mar or 11Mar?
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PhilW wrote:
jdaw1 wrote:
uncle tom wrote:Dow
Fonseca
Graham
Smith Woodhouse
Taylor
Warre
Works for me. When?
I'd like to be there if available; Perhaps one day of weeks starting 4Mar or 11Mar?
When does the rutting season end?
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DRT wrote:When does the rutting season end?
Late March, but I'm not sure exactly when.
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When does the rutting season end?
March 14 88)
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uncle tom wrote:
When does the rutting season end?
March 14 88)
The seems like an ideal way to welcome you back from the field :D
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This seems like an ideal way to welcome you back from the field
- Thankyou!

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Tuesday 19th March best for me.

Wednesday a no-no, as it’s Budget day. Thursday is publication day. Monday disliked by Mrs W. Hence Tuesday please.
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19th March works for me.
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jdaw1 wrote:Tuesday 19th March best for me.

Wednesday a no-no, as it’s Budget day. Thursday is publication day. Monday disliked by Mrs W. Hence Tuesday please.
And Friday is the Taylor Vertical so we can't do Friday either.

Sadly, March 19th and March 22nd are too close to each other for me to make both. And I would prefer to attend the Taylor vertical.
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Ah. The proximity escaped my notice.

Perhaps the 83v85 should be held until April? I think this is a tasting that is worth doing well.
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DRT wrote:Perhaps the 83v85 should be held until April?
Works for me.
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DRT wrote:Ah. The proximity escaped my notice.

Perhaps the 83v85 should be held until April? I think this is a tasting that is worth doing well.
That seems remarkably restrained for someone posting while pretending to be DRT.

But April will work much better for me.
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AHB wrote:
DRT wrote:this is a tasting that is worth doing well.
That seems remarkably restrained for someone posting while pretending to be DRT.
To clarify: "doing well" = 35 shippers of each vintage.

What does "remarkably restrained" mean?
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Could we set this for early May? When would work best for folks?
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jdaw1 wrote:Could we set this for early May? When would work best for folks?
Not early May would work best for me.
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If someone were to say Tuesday 2nd April that might be very good. Just a thought. Perhaps I'll say it.
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Further to the above, if this date (2nd April) were to prove convenient for a number of people and we were to confirm it, I might book flights. I'll be in Berlin until the 1st, and would otherwise fly back to Ireland, but if the date suits I'll gladly have a couple of days in London...
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Works for me. If, by Sunday, there are no strong objections to Tuesday 2nd April 2013 then that will be the date.
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2nd April works for me.
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