Organise events to meet up and drink Port.
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by WS1 » 10:26 Fri 02 May 2014
This post to hold arrangements as and when agreed. Authorship of this post changed by jdaw1 from jdaw1 to WS1.
Date: Tuesday 3
rd June 2014.
Venue: the Function Room in
The Bung Hole (57 High Holborn, London WC1V 6DT, tel +44 20 7831 8365,
streetmap.co.uk,
maps.google.co.uk).
People:
- OJMQ;
- uncle tom;
- JDAW;
- AHB;
- WPS;
- IDJ;
- BMHR;
- PW.
Wait list and possibilities and definitely-not-and-very-unhappy-about-it:
- DJ;
- MPM.
Theme: “Blind 1958s for Oscar Quevedo”.
1958s:
- 1958 Constatino(uncle tom);
- 1958 Dow (IDJ);
- 1958 Martinez (WPS);
- 1958 Quinta do Noval (JDAW adopting from IDJ);
- 1958 Delaforce (to be adopted from PW);
- 1958 Warre(AHB);
- 1958 Burmester(to be adopted from BMHR).
Current
draft of the placemats.
Blinding plan
Decanting is into decanters labelled with
Two people then over-staple with blank cards. They leave, and two different people over-staple with decanter labels made from

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WS1 on 16:36 Wed 14 May 2014, edited 1 time in total.
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by jdaw1 » 10:26 Fri 02 May 2014
Oscar Quevedo will be in London for the
London Wine Fair. He has asked whether people would be available for “a get-together on Tuesday, June 3rd”.
- Theme, or random bottles?
- Blind, or sighted?
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by oscar quevedo » 10:38 Fri 02 May 2014
Thank you Julian for opening up the discussion.
In my opinion, I'd go for a theme and certainly blind!
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by jdaw1 » 10:49 Fri 02 May 2014
oscar quevedo wrote:I'd go for a theme and certainly blind!
Suggest a theme, such that we could each bring a blinded bottle within that theme.
I have booked the Function Room. A count of glasses should be phoned in a few days before the event.
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by AHB » 11:57 Fri 02 May 2014
I am free on the evening of June 3rd and would love to see Oscar again.
My suggested theme - "Bring an interesting bottle of port to share with other port lovers. And bring a(nother) bottle of Vintage Port if the interesting bottle might not be very nice. Don't tell anyone what you're bringing."
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by flash_uk » 14:20 Fri 02 May 2014
I would be very keen. And plenty of time to ponder what to bring

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by WS1 » 14:41 Fri 02 May 2014
Can you please put me down as a tentative; DrDirk is visiting me this week (4th -8th of June) and need to be careful about overdoing it!
As a theme I would like to suggest 58s. This should be really fun.
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by djewesbury » 15:26 Fri 02 May 2014
Damn! I can't make this. We have examinations and assessments for the final year students that week. Oscar, have a good evening, and let me know if you'll be in Belfast again this November / December, we could organise an evening...
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by oscar quevedo » 15:44 Fri 02 May 2014
I like the idea of the 58s too, served blind.
Daniel, not sure if this year I'm able to make it Belfast, my wife is pregnant and we expect the baby in October. I may have to skip Belfast this year. Let me know if you come to Portugal soon.
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by djewesbury » 16:01 Fri 02 May 2014
Congratulations Oscar! I've sent you a PM about Porto.
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by jdaw1 » 16:05 Fri 02 May 2014
What 1958s do we have? I have none.
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by flash_uk » 16:09 Fri 02 May 2014
I also have zero 58s.
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by idj123 » 20:02 Fri 02 May 2014
I'm in for this and I can offer up D58 or N58 on this theme. Be good to see Oscar again
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by jdaw1 » 20:35 Fri 02 May 2014
idj123 wrote:I'm in for this and I can offer up D58 or N58 on this theme. Be good to see Oscar again
Please may I adopt the other?
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by idj123 » 08:27 Sat 03 May 2014
JDAW, you may although I still have my fingers crossed that the N58 is in drinking order!
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by WS1 » 08:53 Sun 04 May 2014
I have a few 58s, but I think uncle Tom has more. I think I have some Delaforce, Warre, Noval (not sure though) and Martinez. Since the Martinez is very rare I suggest to bring this. You may remember that EDN brought one last year....
http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.p ... ead#unread
We should definitely have the english bottled Delaforce 58 (orginially from uncle Tom´s stash). Lovely port for AHB and my taste. JDAW's taste would dictate to comment: "This should have been drunk a long time ago....".
Dow 58 is also great as is Warre. Suggest though we bring the bts well in advance to the Bunghole and let them rest standing up. Also the ports should be opened 3hours before the tasting and then just decanted into equal empty bts to make the tasting blind. 58s are not such a strong year as 60 or 63 and therefore need less time in the decanter but benefit from this careful opening technique.
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by AHB » 07:22 Tue 06 May 2014
A '58 horizontal is a great idea. I think I have Warre at home so will bring that (unless someone has already volunteered the Warre).
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by benread » 17:24 Tue 06 May 2014
Thank you to JDAW for nudging me about this. I have, as he pointed out, been MIA of recent. However, the date of this works very well as my mother in law is staying so child care not an issue!
1958 is an issue though, so unless an adoption can be arranged I may have to request special dispensation to go off piste!
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by flash_uk » 17:29 Tue 06 May 2014
I was a little hasty at signalling availability...if I'd actually looked at my diary I would have realised I was in New York that week! Please reverse me from the list

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by PhilW » 11:20 Wed 07 May 2014
Tentative, pending approval; would need to adopt.
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by WS1 » 19:30 Thu 08 May 2014
Have called in the cavalary (alerted uncle Tom

) in order to avoid a complete "white wash" on my 58s in my cellar.
Hence I am sure we will have a nice 58 selcetion ready when Oscar will be in town!
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by jdaw1 » 10:45 Fri 09 May 2014
First post updated with placemats and blinding plan.
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by idj123 » 12:45 Fri 09 May 2014
Does anybody happen to know how many (and which) Houses declared 1958? Mayson's book has very few details and I'd be interested to know what we're not covering in this tasting.
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by flash_uk » 17:18 Fri 09 May 2014
Have you checked
this? Not sure how accurate or complete it is.
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by jdaw1 » 18:07 Fri 09 May 2014
idj123 wrote:Does anybody happen to know how many (and which) Houses declared 1958?
1958s: Burmester; Butler Nephew; Cálem; Cálem Quinta da Foz; Constantino; Delaforce; Dow; Ferreira; Fonseca Guimaraens; Graham Malvedos; Kopke; Krohn; Mackenzie; Martinez; Quarles Harris; Quinta do Noval; Quinta do Noval Nacional; Royal Oporto; Sandeman; Taylor Quinta de Vargellas; Tuke Holdsworth; Warre. And perhaps others (for which my database has only 1 or 2 references).