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- Why not..Should we have a referendum on this question?
I think you need to update the question in the title/first post to match; your rider of "2.1L bottles being not permitted anymore" would change my answer. While it is implicit, provided you know that 2.1L bottles are not longer permitted, without that knowledge your answer could differ, i.e. for me, without that additional fact:uncle tom wrote:2.1L bottles being not permitted anymore, should the name 'Tappit Hen' be used for a 2.25L bottle?
I think this only applies to wine bottles between 100ml and 1500ml (or 2000ml for spirits)...so larger formats should not be affected by this (of course, this does not preclude the possibility of national legislation regarding larger sizes - eg: US rules about bottles between 3l and 18l needing to step up in intervals of whole litres, prompting the use of 5l "jeroboams")uncle tom wrote:My understanding is that EU rules stipulate that wine bottles (other than miniatures) must be multiples or simple divisions of 75cL.
Spirits though, are still mostly sold in 70cL I notice..
…with a little cunning and imagination to see the loopholes, do not prohibit any size ≥ 18¾cl (and that might be 5cl, I’d have to check).uncle tom wrote:My understanding is that EU rules
I'm finding this statement quite cryptic - any chance you could expound?jdaw1 wrote:…with a little cunning and imagination to see the loopholes, do not prohibit any size ≥ 18¾cl (and that might be 5cl, I’d have to check).uncle tom wrote:My understanding is that EU rules
From memory, the rules not regulate bottle sizes at all. The rules regulate labels. Labels can’t be bigger than actual bottle size, at least statistically, and must be a size on the list. But by all means, fill a 50l bottle, label it 18l (a legal size), and add words to the back to say that “We’re not allowed to say that this is a 50l bottle. We can say that, before being filled with Port, it could hold 50l of liquid. We can say that we’re paying taxes on 50l of Port. But EU rules — hurray! — don’t allow us to say that it hold 50l, because that would be an illegal size. So we wrote 18l on the front. Brussels, eh?”RAYC wrote:I'm finding this statement quite cryptic - any chance you could expound?
Do you not come unstuck under the Weights and Measures (Intoxicating Liquor) Order 1988 (SI 1988/2039):jdaw1 wrote:From memory, the rules not regulate bottle sizes at all. The rules regulate labels. Labels can’t be bigger than actual bottle size, at least statistically, and must be a size on the list. But by all means, fill a 50l bottle, label it 18l (a legal size), and add words to the back to say that “We’re not allowed to say that this is a 50l bottle. We can say that, before being filled with Port, it could hold 50l of liquid. We can say that we’re paying taxes on 50l of Port. But EU rules — hurray! — don’t allow us to say that it hold 50l, because that would be an illegal size. So we wrote 18l on the front. Brussels, eh?”RAYC wrote:I'm finding this statement quite cryptic - any chance you could expound?
Regulation 4 wrote:4. (1) The intoxicating liquor and other liquids specified in column 1 of Schedule 1 to this Order shall be pre-packed or, in the case of those in Part III of Schedule 1, otherwise made up in a container for sale, only if they are made up in one of the quantities by volume specified in column 2, subject to the exceptions specified in column 3.
Schedule 1, Column 1 wrote:Wine of fresh grapes; grape must with fermentation prevented or arrested by the addition of alcohol, including wine made of unfermented grape juice blended with alcohol, grape must in fermentation or with fermentation arrested otherwise than by the addition of alcohol, of subheadings 2204 21 21 to 2204 21 39 inclusive, 2204 29 21 to 2204 29 39 inclusive and 2204 30 10
There are various exemptions, including for wines bottled before 1st January 1989.Schedule 1, Column 2 wrote:10 cl, 18.7 cl (x), 25 cl, 37.5 cl, 50 cl, 75 cl, 1 L, 1.5 L, 2 L, 3 L, 5 L, 6 L, 9 L, 10 L
(x) for consumption on board aircraft and ships only
If that prohibits something allowed under the Common Customs Tariff, which dominates the other?JacobH wrote:Do you not come unstuck under the Weights and Measures (Intoxicating Liquor) Order 1988 (SI 1988/2039)